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BUGS! in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I think this topic has gone far enough.

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BUGS! in Blades of Avernum
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I think this topic has gone far enough.

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Visions of the future. (was: It's my turn to spam.) in General
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2001 had two key points as I see it:

1) A fantasy of what if extraterrestrials seeded intelligent life on Earth (and elsewhere in the universe) and how such things would happen.

2) About how technology can have unintended consequences in the case of HAL. HAL was instructed to lie to the crew (not let them know about the alien technology) but at the same time had the built in instructs to give accurate and correct answers. The only way to satisfy both objectives was to remove the humans.

At the end, Dave Bowman encounters the alien technology, is killed, and is reanimated by the monolith as sort of a computer program. Play Emulations in BoE, it uses the exact same idea with the character Drykon.

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Visions of the future. (was: It's my turn to spam.) in General
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I think we all know the one I'm hoping for :P

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New Scenario Editor in Blades of Exile
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Will not happen.

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Quick question... in General
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Welcome back Turtle, long time no see.

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Native Americans in General
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Being a teacher is a very noble thing as one generally does it sacrificing decent pay for merely the intrinsic reward of either doing something good for society or doing something they enjoy. I would not recommend going into teaching at a pre-college level if you are not motivated by at least one of those.

If you want good money (not excellent), with llimited hours and good benefits, consider employment with the US federal government. Not to say there are not people who work very hard in the public sector, there are, but there are also a lot of other government employees who make a bit for very little.

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Avernum V in Avernum 4
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ncp as in non-character person, you know noobie.
Insulting the moderator staff is highly frowned upon and is dealt with swiftly. NPC is the correct term.

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Return to the Vale in Blades of Avernum
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It could work, although it is generally not recomended because the scenario has a decent bit of closure to it -- people have to leave for a very long time until the magical pollution gets cleaned up.

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Tachyon:The Fringe in General
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This is the general boards, although not directly relevant, neither are the various surveys or political discussions.

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The Big Club Theory in General
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Why would the uncertainties be too large over shorter time scales of a hundreds of years? The half-life of carbon-14 is 5730 years. This makes it good for at most about 20 half-lives or about 100k years, but that's pushing it as background radition would interfere with the spectrum -- beta decay does not emit at a nice peak energy.

One can assume up until the industrial revolution that the isotopic abundances in carbon were roughly constant (there are some refinements to that making the science more exact). In other words, if we were able to capture something at the moment an organism died or object stopped the regular intake of atoms, we would have a pretty good idea of the expected count rate.

This count rate decreases over time as the carbon-14 atoms decay. By measuring this count rate, assuming a fixed decay rate, and a known beta energy spectrum, one can track back to the original date within some uncertainty band. This is a direct consequence of the total number of counts.

For something very old > 100k years of age, one would have to count for a very, very long time to get any accurate answer -- if indeed one is possible at all due to other background disturbances. However, if something is fairly recent, say 2000 years ago, getting the counting statistics fine enough should not take prohibitively at all.

When doing isotopic dating, things are good from a fraction of a half-life to several half-lives on the time scale.

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Spawner graphics: G1 vs G3 in Geneforge Series
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GF1 is my favorite. The GF3 ones look like a lump of fungus with a hole at the top whereas the other has cooler features like tentacles to manipulate essence.

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The Big Club Theory in General
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Dispite the very many things I could say I'll just ask: how does dna last even a million years.
I didn't even mention DNA. I said radiometric dating methods. This means looking at the ratios of species concentrations of naturally occurring radioactive isotopes to determine the age of a rock. Care to respond?

As an aside: DNA not lasting millions of years, I don't see why it couldn't. It is a stable organic molecule and if vitrified there should be no external disturbance so why would it not stay together. What means would cause the chemical bonds to break apart?

I never said you said that all mutations were bad, it's just a common argument. You still have yet to respond to the claim that mutations cannot add information, the more relevant point.

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Avernum V in Avernum 4
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A lot of what makes a good story is how the characters react to the events around them. With the quake thing, there need not be a major overarching storyline. There should, however, be major goals involving getting Avernum back on track from the cataclysm.

As far as quakes being preventable by magic, that argument is a load as it's a fantasy universe and the parameters can be set however the author feels.

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The Big Club Theory in General
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The point with the gene in the bones is that mutations can and do create new properties that can be beneficial or at least are not inherently descructive. In other words, not all mutations are harmful (not directly your claim, but closely related) and the second section shows that new info is indeed added contrary to your claim. Care to comment or would you be willing to refine your stance on genetics?

As for the link not working, all I had to do was take off the last parentheses and I got it to work. From there you should be able to use the search engine.

As far as old rocks, take any rock found to be in excess of 1 million years as shown by appropriate radiometric dating methods. How do you reconcile the existence of these isotopic ratios consistent with the decay rates and predicted theoretical models?

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The Big Club Theory in General
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It is arguable. [See I just argued against it. (just as good as your argument)]
You have a very naive view of what makes a good argument if you want to argue about radiometric dating by saying just saying its arguable and not presenting an argument. Personally, it's insulting that you dismiss this claim out of hand especially when I tend to know a lot about it.

Could you please comment on your previous assertion that mutations can create no new genes in light of the documented evidence to the contrary.

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Sholai and Sucia Island in Geneforge Series
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They could have, anything is possible in a fantasy world. However, I would say given what we know, very unlikely.

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The Big Club Theory in General
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You know, I'd never thought about it that way before, but New Earth Creationists really have some explaining to do about ancient civilizations that go back earlier than 4004 B.C.
The devil did it. :P

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A4 Question in Avernum 4
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No. There are scripts that can help you cheat, however. Consult the forum header.

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Was Russia's occupation of Eastern Europe after WW II justified? in General
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Is this a whole new kind of weird that UBB has blessed us with, or am I not getting something?
No, just the day begins at 12 AM, and then goes to 1 AM until 12 PM. It would be easier if we just used a 24 hour clock, but that's just me. :rolleyes:

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The Big Club Theory in General
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First, (Dintiradan hit this point) macro evolution is the adding of genes. This is what I disagree with.
Second, micro evolution is the changing of genes. I agree with this.
Third, mutations just take away genes. This, I agree with too.
No need to reinvent the wheel here, so I'm just going to post what the experts say on what I feel are the two key points:

I) Mutations are harmful

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Most mutations are neutral. Nachman and Crowell estimate around 3 deleterious mutations out of 175 per generation in humans (2000). Of those that have significant effect, most are harmful, but a significant fraction are beneficial. The harmful mutations do not survive long, and the beneficial mutations survive much longer, so when you consider only surviving mutations, most are beneficial.

Beneficial mutations are commonly observed. They are common enough to be problems in the cases of antibiotic resistance in disease-causing organisms and pesticide resistance in agricultural pests (e.g., Newcomb et al. 1997; these are not merely selection of pre-existing variation.) They can be repeatedly observed in laboratory populations (Wichman et al. 1999). Other examples include the following:
Mutations have given bacteria the ability to degrade nylon (Prijambada et al. 1995).
Plant breeders have used mutation breeding to induce mutations and select the beneficial ones (FAO/IAEA 1977).
Certain mutations in humans confer resistance to AIDS (Dean et al. 1996; Sullivan et al. 2001) or to heart disease (Long 1994; Weisgraber et al. 1983).
A mutation in humans makes bones strong (Boyden et al. 2002).
Transposons are common, especially in plants, and help to provide beneficial diversity (Moffat 2000).
In vitro mutation and selection can be used to evolve substantially improved function of RNA molecules, such as a ribozyme (Wright and Joyce 1997).

Whether a mutation is beneficial or not depends on environment. A mutation that helps the organism in one circumstance could harm it in another. When the environment changes, variations that once were counteradaptive suddenly become favored. Since environments are constantly changing, variation helps populations survive, even if some of those variations do not do as well as others. When beneficial mutations occur in a changed environment, they generally sweep through the population rapidly (Elena et al. 1996).

High mutation rates are advantageous in some environments. Hypermutable strains of Pseudomonas aeruginosa are found more commonly in the lungs of cystic fibrosis patients, where antibiotics and other stresses increase selection pressure and variability, than in patients without cystic fibrosis (Oliver et al. 2000).

Note that the existence of any beneficial mutations is a falsification of the young-earth creationism model (Morris 1985, 13).
II) Mutations cannot add information (i.e. can only take away "genes")

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It is hard to understand how anyone could make this claim, since anything mutations can do, mutations can undo. Some mutations add information to a genome; some subtract it. Creationists get by with this claim only by leaving the term "information" undefined, impossibly vague, or constantly shifting. By any reasonable definition, increases in information have been observed to evolve. We have observed the evolution of

increased genetic variety in a population (Lenski 1995; Lenski et al. 1991)
increased genetic material (Alves et al. 2001; Brown et al. 1998; Hughes and Friedman 2003; Lynch and Conery 2000; Ohta 2003)
novel genetic material (Knox et al. 1996; Park et al. 1996)
novel genetically-regulated abilities (Prijambada et al. 1995)

If these do not qualify as information, then nothing about information is relevant to evolution in the first place.

A mechanism that is likely to be particularly common for adding information is gene duplication, in which a long stretch of DNA is copied, followed by point mutations that change one or both of the copies. Genetic sequencing has revealed several instances in which this is likely the origin of some proteins. For example:
Two enzymes in the histidine biosynthesis pathway that are barrel-shaped, structural and sequence evidence suggests, were formed via gene duplication and fusion of two half-barrel ancestors (Lang et al. 2000).
RNASE1, a gene for a pancreatic enzyme, was duplicated, and in langur monkeys one of the copies mutated into RNASE1B, which works better in the more acidic small intestine of the langur. (Zhang et al. 2002)
Yeast was put in a medium with very little sugar. After 450 generations, hexose transport genes had duplicated several times, and some of the duplicated versions had mutated further. (Brown et al. 1998)
The biological literature is full of additional examples. A PubMed search (at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi) on "gene duplication" gives more than 3000 references.

According to Shannon-Weaver information theory, random noise maximizes information. This is not just playing word games. The random variation that mutations add to populations is the variation on which selection acts. Mutation alone will not cause adaptive evolution, but by eliminating nonadaptive variation, natural selection communicates information about the environment to the organism so that the organism becomes better adapted to it. Natural selection is the process by which information about the environment is transferred to an organism's genome and thus to the organism (Adami et al. 2000).

The process of mutation and selection is observed to increase information and complexity in simulations (Adami et al. 2000; Schneider 2000).
Care to refute the above evidence or do you have a different argument?

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The Ultimate Survey in General
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I hope you find the responses informative. :D

What did you do last night?
—No comment
The last thing you downloaded onto your computer?
—I don't see how that's any of your concern.
Have you ever licked a 9 volt battery?
—I'm not going to dignify that with a response.
Type of music you dislike most?
—Irrelevant
Are you registered to vote?
—Innapropriate
Ever made a prank phone call?
—Not applicable to this discussion
Would you go bungee jumping or sky diving?
—I have nothing to say on this.
Furthest place you ever traveled?
—None of your beeswax! :P
What's your favorite comic strip?
—Unimportant.
Best movie you've seen in the past month?
—That's for me to know and you not to find out.
Favorite chocolate bar?
—If you have to ask, you obviously don't need to know.
Have you ever won a trophy?
—No response.
Favorite arcade game?
—I decline to comment.
Ever thrown up in public?
—I'm not going to answer this question.
Would you prefer being a millionaire or finding true love?
—How dare you ask a question like that!
If you had to spend a romantic evening with any sw member, who would you pick?
—Not applicable.
Do you believe in love at first sight?
—I have no official response for this.
Who do you think about most?
—There is no point to answer this question.
Which celebrity do you think is hot, both female and male?
—You are not cleared for such informaton.
What's the worst medical problem you've ever had?
—That's a secret and you will never know.
What's your favorite sitcom?
—I mock this question.
Hottest sw male
—No further comment.
Last computer/video game you played
—Unimportant
Last movie you rented
—Next question please.
Would you rather dump someone or be dumped?
—Answering this would serve no purpose other than to waste my time. :P
Which sw member has the dirties mind?
—No further comments.
Have you ever kissed someone and regretted it?
—I'm done here.

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What exactly are slith avatars? in The Avernum Trilogy
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Alorael is stalking you... ;)

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Avernum 3 : is killing Rentar-Ihrno... in The Avernum Trilogy
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It is indeed possible with multiple saves/reloads. Summoned creatures like demons can do 1 or 2 points of damage to her. I've done it before and you get no special thing out of it other than the pride to say you've killed her.

EDIT: oh yeah, she stops teleporting you eventually.

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Avernum V in Avernum 4
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Originally written by Dikiyoba:

But would it make a good Avernum-style game?
In the style of Avernum I, yeah, I'd say so. The real purpose in that was to run around and do lots of quests.

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