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Infernal Flamming Muffin is an Oldbie? in General
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I just thought, no content, same name, must be Iffy. He did a very good job.
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Infernal Flamming Muffin is an Oldbie? in General
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I guess I'm not your biggest fan then. I was before, but that last post.....

[ Monday, February 19, 2007 16:40: Message edited by: Kyrek ]
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Infernal Flamming Muffin is an Oldbie? in General
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Who in their right mind would want to impersonate IFM?
Someone trying to annoy him.

He/she acted very similar to you, and was a very good imposter. He did break the CoC though.
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The accuser is a mod, and is most likely not going to be banned. He is one that does the banning.
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Hmmmm........

I didn't notice that. The posts were so similar in content that I didn't notice the change. I wonder who that was. Whoever it was did a very good job, congratulations.
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Iffy, slow down. We don't want to hear you roar.

What are you saying in you're second post?

[ Monday, February 19, 2007 16:20: Message edited by: Kyrek ]
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trenches and bunkers? in Geneforge Series
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Sorry, I hadn't realized it was dead. I just saw it as the second topic here and figured it was a new one. I don't check this forum very often, and figured that this was a fairly new conversation.
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The Ancient Greeks in General
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Modern athletes spend more time building up certain muscles that help them with their event or sport. The Greeks did more all around muscle building activities. Modern athletes have certain muscles that are stronger, but the Greeks are all around stronger.

Not all Greeks were athletes or warriors, but all had to know how to use a weapon in case of a militia call-up, and most of them were athletes.

No, I am not concluding that the Greeks had superhuman strength. I am saying that the Greeks were stronger than we currently are, but in not to long a time we could regain that strength. It isn't out of our reach, all we have to do is exercise hard for 3 or 4 generations so that the muscle form changes.

Sorry, I don't have a biological desription of it. That's just my understanding of how it works.
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Spiderweb Monthly Stats - February 2007 in General
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I don't think a second ED incident is possible. He was just that bad.....
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Iffy, slooowwww doooowwwnn...... You are posting way to much. You keep making useless topics, and are number one on the current list. You haven't made very many productive posts, and you are getting annoying.
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I highly doubt I have met any of you in real life. Like ET none of the people I know like these games.
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What I mean is that the people who are arguing with me are saying that we can't rely on those records, and is hard to create an argument when I don't get to use something abd you do.

The Greeks couldn't have spent as much time practicing for the Olympics. The had to earn money, grow/but food, and many other things like that. They didn't win anything in the Olympics, so they had to do a lot of other stuff which modern athletes wouldn't. They spread out their training also, and didn't train only for one thing.

What I mean is that the muscle changes to allow more strength for the amount of muscle. I am saying that the training and stuff would change the muscle, not necessarily the strength.

I mean that they all did the sports and battle, not just toke it seriously. I mean taking part, not watching others take art.

I am not saying that they had superman strength, I am just sayng that they are stronger than we are.

They wouldn't change the records because Poseidon made them go faster, they would think that Poseidon had made their fleet the best known to the world.
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trenches and bunkers? in Geneforge Series
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I always say the battle line as:
Battle Alphas/Glaahks/Clawbugs/Thads
Soldiers
Roamers/Vlish/Artilas/Fyoras
Guardians
Shapers/Agents

In G2 the Guardians shot you down with batons with their meatshields waiting in front. I always thought that that was the way they fought.
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Percieved Sympothies in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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I agree, Jeff is most definitely a Trako. So am I actually, although in this poll I had to side with the Shapers.
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Sometimes it is good to have him around, others however.....
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What I mean is that the strength is passed down and the descendant's muscles slowly change so that there is the same amount of muscle, but the muscle is stronger.

The women did more strenuous work than in modern times, discounting athletes and such. In terms of women there would be alesser difference because of sexism.

The soldiers would be supplied with food to keep them healthy. The Greeks toke battle, sailing and sports very seriously. All of those people would be supplied with food to keep up their stamina. The laborers couldn't have had as bad conditions as modern third world countries, because they were expected to go to war when needed, and many of them competed in the Olympics.
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No, I'm pretty sure that that makes it a bad thing that it was locked.
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Spiderweb Monthly Stats - February 2007 in General
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My first time in the top ten! :eek: And at the beginning of the month I was aiming for 15th....

[ Monday, February 19, 2007 03:54: Message edited by: Kyrek ]
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Any unbalances? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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The Warrior is far to weak. It has no strengths, and many weaknesses. Another class always manages to outmatch it.
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Episode 3 Continued in General
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Will this month's post count factor into the story?
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The Ancient Greeks in General
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I am saying that part of it is training, labor, etc, but part of it is also genetic difference. The reason I think part is genetic difference is because I think that from all the fighting their bodies changed. They had many, many wars with each other, and many with other opponents. I am saying that it came from generations of training and wars. Like for instance, if the modern world were to do the same as the Greeks for 500 years, they would reach the point wherethe Greeks were.

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For what it's worth, modern Olympic records tend to be much better than equivalent ancient Greek Olympic records.
Earlier you were saying that we didn't know the systems the Greeks used, and here you using a recording from then as evidence. So do we know the system, or not?

The Greeks didn't spend their life training for one thing. The trained for multiple things. The runners would be in an army part of the year, working for another part, and doing a bit of training as well.

And I am comparing the Greeks that did eqaul muscle building exercise with a modern person. It doesn't matter the amount of exercise as long as they did an eqaul amount.
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What do you hate. . . in General
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I hate snow. I love summer sports, especially soccer, and you can't play those properly in the snow.
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Our modern athletes are about as strong as the average Greek. They labored all day.

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But the fact that we tried and failed once doesn't mean that it's not possible. That's just a silly idea.
I know it's possible. I just don't think anyone will be able to do it until they spend their life training for it, and have had the technique passed down through th generations. The thing is, if they spent their life training for it, they would be a lot stronger than the average person. And the Greeks most likely didn't spend their life training for it. They would also have to practice with weapons, work in fields, and do other things like that.

Please note: My next point is not with genetic research or with a great amount of knowledge about how the human body works. It is just with my understanding, which could easily be wrong, of the human body.

If you spent your entire life training, then your body would be prepared to have more muscle in it, and would change slightly so that the muscle on your body would stay smaller, but be stronger. This would account for some of what I think the Greek body was like, although not very much of it. The rest would be from having a lot more muscle than the average Greek.

The many sources could be because they were part of a select group of people, but it could just as easily be because there is very good reason to believe that. Also, the sources didn't seem to have any connection to each other.

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Okay, now this is utterly ridiculous. You assert this "recording" as evidence, then say it is "obviously an exaggeration." Your final conclusion about how they "probably travelled" came entirely from your conception of how they probably travelled and not from the "recording" at all.
Looking back, that didn't make any sense. That wasn't a very good way putting what I was trying to say.

What I was trying to say was that the Greeks must of been able to reach those speeds because the completely dominated the ocean, and when competing with navies of the Persians, Romans, and various other opponents, they would need a great navy. Every trireme would have to hold 9 knots for a long time in a naval battle. To arrive as reinforcements in a battle, they would have to use great speed over a period of time. To head of landing parties they would also have to use great speeds for longer than a couple of seconds. They would have to reach those speeds to control the sea.
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About the article:

I have watched and read that information many, many times. There are numerous sources with that same information. That makes it far more likely that that article is actual information with real backing sources.

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With that in mind, I don't doubt that the Greeks rowed faster than we can easily imitate. After all, they had been rowing triremes for centuries and had handed techniques down by word-of-mouth for that entire time. Rowers rowed their entire lives. They were in better shape than we are, by and large, but our stronger athletes are probably comparable to their manual laborers in strength. Nevertheless, as was pointed out, technique matters much more than raw strength in rowing, and their technique was probably unparalleled.
With little strength, you wouldn't be able to row very well. Also, does technigue make up for the ability to reverse very quickly, a great rowing stamina and the ability to go at 9 knots for a large amount of time? Some of it is technique, but technigue doesn't make up for the speed at which the Greeks could row. The modern oarsmen of the trireme could keep a pace of 9 knots for only seconds. The Greeks would have to keep it for most of the length of a naval battle.

The way the 9 knots came up is from ramming. You would have to go incredibly fast to sink a ship by ramming it. 9 knots is a reasonable speed needed.

And to answer for the not knowing the Greek naval measurement system, there are recordings of the Greeks traveling large distances in a very short time. Once apparently a Greek ship traveled 340 miles in 24 hours. This is obviously an exaggeration, because that is over 16 knots, but the Greeks probably travelled at 8 or 9 knots in that journey.
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What Spells Do You Wish You Could Cast? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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As a Servile mage I always hit with Essence Shackles, it's not that hard.
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