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Phobias in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #15
I don't really have any true phobias, but I'll say…

Aichmophobia- Fear of needles or pointed objects.
Angrophobia - Fear of anger or of becoming angry.
Apiphobia- Fear of bees.
Spheksophobia- Fear of wasps.
Trypanophobia- Fear of injections.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #122
I don't care if he says a prayer a few minutes before going up and making a speech while in public, and a few nosey reporters happen to see him and put it on TV. I just find it annoying for him pray at the podium with government seals and American flags for all to see, and constantly mentioning his religious beliefs within the speech it self. This insinuates that the government supports his ideals, as he is their representative.

As I previously said, I don't think it should be illegal, but I feel he is a tool and a hypocrite for doing so.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
hey, the oldest sign in here in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #2
*Spam*

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
What's your religion? in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #32
You scored as Buddhism.

Buddhism 58%
Hinduism 54%
Christianity 50%
Paganism 50%
Islam 46%
agnosticism 38%
Judaism 29%
Satanism 25%
atheism 8%

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #114
quote:
Originally written by Aranfoolcaytar:

It's really a trap statement. The way he says "Evil" (as in "Axis of Evil") is too binary to be of any worth. The Evil he speaks of has a meaning in fantasy settings, but not in reality.
:nods: This is exactly why I object to him using the term "evil" so often. When he calls something "evil" he means "not with God".

Evil does not exist outside of religious ideology or moral objection. Yes, these days it's used in somewhat more general terms, but it stems from religious doctrine. Evil is a myth, and the same kind of people that are thought of as "evil" may very well just be mentally ill.

It is another example of Bush being unable to separate is religious views from his job as president. This seems to be the way America is going, but it goes against the ideals this country was founded on.

[ Friday, August 05, 2005 10:19: Message edited by: Zaiu ]

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #100
Perhaps, but what tangible evidence is there of the existence of God? Surely one can prove that God is at least as real as the earth.

Edit: fix

[ Thursday, August 04, 2005 22:44: Message edited by: Zaiu ]

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #98
It does for most people :P

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #96
quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

Does he have to prove that the world exists and isn't just an illusion created in his mind by the Matrix before he comments on Iraq? If not, why not?
The world (Earth and the creatures that dwell on it) is tangible, God is not.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #90
quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

I love that second sentence - it's almost entirely made of qualifiers. :P
^________^

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I'm afraid I haven't managed to grab the distinction you're trying to draw here, though. If Bush expresses an opinion about Howard (he's ballsy) and he expresses an opinion about God (he exists), why is the one permissible and not the other?
Commenting on another person is a bit different than commenting on something that he is speculating on its existence. Unless he can prove there is a God he is telling inane stories before each speech.
(Note this has nothing to do with my beliefs either way.)

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Sure. But how do you ban a politician from doing that and not ban him from expressing other opinions without being inconsistent?
Some opinions are relevant to his job, and others are not.

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I thought praying before a speech had nothing to do with the actual policies?
It is an example that he is unable to separate the two thought processes.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #84
Thuryl, I certainly don't think it should be illegal, but rather added to the list of things that are somewhat inappropriate. An example would that the president is unlikely to comment on whether he finds homosexuality to be morally acceptable or not. He is also unlikely to make comments involving racial or gender stereotypes.

It certainly isn't illegal for him to discuss what he ate for dinner last night, or what color his pajamas are, but for some reason he doesn't feel like mentioning those aspects of his personal life before each State of the Union. Why should his religious beliefs be any different?

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #80
John Howard exists, and Bush would be commenting on another politician. Arguably the whole concept of God may or may not be a mere matter of opinion.

Religion tends to be a sensitive issue for people, and most people don't like being told that what they believe is wrong, or be preached to. I just find it inappropriate when the president repeatedly says like…

"Thou shalt not kill" is pretty universal. (School) districts ought to be allowed to post the Ten Commandments, no matter what a person's religion is."
-- GOP Debate in Johnston, Iowa, Jan. 16, 2000

"Our priorities is our faith."
-- Greensboro, North Carolina, Oct. 10, 2000

"I appreciate that question because I, in the state of Texas, had heard a lot of discussion about a faith-based initiative eroding the important bridge between church and state."
-- Speaking to reporters, Jan. 29, 2001

"All of us here today understand this: We do not fight Islam, we fight against evil."
-- Remarks by President George W. Bush to the Warsaw Conference on Combating Terrorism
November 6, 2001

"Americans understand we fight not a religion; ours is not a campaign against the Muslim faith. Ours is a campaign against evil."
--President George W. Bush Remarks by the President to Airline Employees O'Hare International Airport, Chicago, Illinois September 27, 2001

I guess Bush has the inside tip on what is "evil".

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #78
And I agree that he should be able to pray publicly, but why does he have to do it when he is conveying messages that are supposed to be coming from our government? Is he saying that our government is Christian?

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #75
quote:
One situation is the president using his opinion or judgment to make decisions based on the constitution, democracy, current laws, and future needs of America in order to make this a free and structured environment. The other situation is the president expressing his opinions about his religious views, and what he feels God is or is not. Do you really see those two forms of opinion as the same thing?
This was in response to the below more than anything else, but my point was that religious beliefs are not an option that should be involved in any decision making as president in respect to what happens (or doesn't happen) with American policies.

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Or have I misunderstood completely? Because I think it's silly to demand that the President does not voice any of his personal opinions while on the job, especially when it's completely obvious which of the two, say, a prayer to God is.

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Religious beliefs aren't really any different to any other type of belief. They're just an opinion on whether or not X is true.



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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #70
Have you read the discussion so far, Ben? I have commented on what you are saying, but I suppose I reiterate.

I can respect that his religion wants him spread the word, and as I have already said I don't have a problem with him praying in public. When he is speaking on behalf of the American government he not an individual, but rather the face of the institution.

You seem to assume that president is just like any other person, but he's not. He does have freedom of speech, but there are obviously quite a few things that would be considered inappropriate for him to say.

Ben, do you understand that keeping church and state separate is in the constitution, and what he is doing is violating people's liberty? Yes, the majority did vote for him, and yes, the majority is Christian/Catholic; does that mean that the minority has no rights and should be forced to endure the majority's morals because they were out voted?

[ Thursday, August 04, 2005 15:05: Message edited by: Zaiu ]

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Who's your role model? in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #33
I don't really have a single role model, but to pick one I'll say one of my teachers. I have been studying with him for over three years now, and I am very grateful for all he has done for me.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #60
One situation is the president using his opinion or judgment to make decisions based on the constitution, democracy, current laws, and future needs of America in order to make this a free and structured environment. The other situation is the president expressing his opinions about his religious views, and what he feels God is or is not. Do you really see those two forms of opinion as the same thing?

I'm trying not to be redundant, but the point remains that "freedom of religion" means that one is able to have free expression of their religious views, but they also have the right to not have the views of others forced on them. If someone needs to listen to the president's speech about the progress of the war they are forced to sit through a prayer and listen to numerous references about God throughout the president's speech.

If the president is unable to separate his religious viewpoint from his job as a leader of a diverse population he will be inclined to make decisions based on his faith rather that what the people want, or what is in the best interest of the masses; abortion at any stage is baby killing because if it's fertilized it's a baby which has been given life by God, or medicinal marijuana should be illegal because getting stoned is evil even if someone is dying.

[ Wednesday, August 03, 2005 20:49: Message edited by: Zaiu ]

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #56
quote:
Originaly written by Ash Lael:
When there are no rules either way for how the President (or any other member of the government) should act with regards to religion, the government is non-religious.

When there are rules that say the President should not act in a religious manner, the government is anti-religious.

When there are rules that state that the president is unable to pray to a God of a single religion it means that he must remain impartial and unbiased towards the people he is supposed to be representing. Perhaps he should consider saying a very brief prayer for each and every version of God if his intention is truly and solely to praise the higher power, but it seems to me that he is simply unable to keep his personal beliefs out of matters of official government business.

If one leads a nation rooted in his religious beliefs they become part of his policies as well, and with Bush they are. He can go to war in God's name, and put an end to the evils of abortion and the abomination of the bible being absent from even a slight second of our daily lives. Put the Ten Commandments in courtrooms, and make the children pray before class; after all the majority is Christian/Catholic, so why not force everyone else to see the light too?
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Bush is not America and he is not even the US government. If he prays, it doesn't mean America is praying or that America should pray, any more than if he speaks with a Texan accent it means that America is speaking with a Texan accent or that America should speak with a Texan accent. If he tells a joke, it doesn't mean that America thinks it's funny.
When Bush became president he agreed to represent America and its government. He is the face and voice of the American government for the UN, and for American citizens. If he wants to voice his personal beliefs every time he speaks he shouldn't represent the masses.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Say your prayers... in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #7
When I am with friends and family who prefer to pray before a meal I will pray with them, but I don't say a blessing before meals on a regular basis.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #19
The president is the top representative of America, thus he is no longer an average individual. I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed pray in public, but that it is a conflict of interest to do so before making statements while speaking for the American government.

As for prayer in public schools, I agree that one should not be forced to pray, nor should they be forbidden to do so.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #17
quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

How do you manage to spell "follow" as "fallow" twice in as many posts? :confused:
My mistake, puppy chasing while typing can lead to oversights in spelling; I'll pay more attention from now on.

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There's a clear difference between a president choosing not to pray and a president wanting to pray and not being allowed to. The former is not offensive, the latter certainly could be.
Again, the president praying in government buildings before making a speech can be seen as a violation of separation of church and state. Though changing the constitution is/was considered so as to allow religion in government buildings/schools it can be seen as unconstitutional to do so at the present time.

Such actions are tolerated due to the majority being Catholic/Christian, but would it be acceptable for the president to pray to God/Jesus if 90% of Americans were Buddhist or atheist?

[ Tuesday, August 02, 2005 21:32: Message edited by: Zaiu ]

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #13
quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

Ah, but if you're playing the Overall Amount of Offense card, surely the number of offended people has to come into play as well? And with Christians being the majority in America... :P

Or you could just say that if it's not public policy, it's no big deal and he can pray to his uncle's left toenail if he feels like it.

I see no logic in saying "I am offended that the president didn't pray." when there is supposed to be a separation of church and state. If the president kept all religious references out of his speeches he would only be fallowing the constitution :P

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #9
Perhaps, but complete lack of prayer (addressing issues of government only) is likely to be less offensive to Catholics than it would be to every other faith/atheists for the president to pray to a single faith's God (Which alienates members of minority faiths/those who don't fallow any God) :P

[ Tuesday, August 02, 2005 20:14: Message edited by: Zaiu ]

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Our President in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #7
I try to stay out of Bush discussions, as I tend to find them aggravating. I'll keep this rant short…

My opinion of Bush is likely known. The war in Iraq seems to have more to do with oil than terrorism, and is rooted in a personal vendetta based on Bush's father's problems with Saddam. We went into Iraq more or less guaranteeing weapons of mass destruction, and when none were found he gave a list of excuses.

Bush claimed 9/11 is what triggered "the need to put an end to terrorism", but he has yet to find Usama Bin Laden. Though Saddam did need to be removed from power it in no way makes up for his inability to solve the problem that directly involved the US.

Bush has prayed to God/Jesus (while standing with government seals and American flags) on national television before making speeches; how does this support the Americans who are members of other faiths or are atheist?

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
What scenarios hve you done? in Blades of Avernum
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #11
In this order IIRC: VoDT, ASR, DWtD, ZKR ,BS ,EM, Canopy, RoR, BC, X'd, Bahs, LP, 9Var, UV, DoK, ALR, MA

I have one party that has played through most of these scenarios, but most of the time I make a new party with the HLPM (at/near recommended level).
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
I am wed. in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #22
Congratulations, Drew, May you have long and happy lives together :)

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Nena
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