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Warrior
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written Monday, February 7 2005 17:45
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I didn't mean it's easy to write scenario. I mean, if you just don't have any idea about the plot, just don't write one ! I have some ideas, but I can't script. I don't write scenario. Some can script but don't have any plot. Why do they write scenario ? What they're thinking ? The thing is, nobody's gonna be beat you if you don't write scenario. I prefer to not release scenario than release a stinky one. If you want to help the newbie to release scenario, just write articles. Drakefyre done it. Erik Westra done it. If you think there's a serious plot problem, write your own plot help book. If you think the newbie are afraid of scripting (and I think they are), write a beginner's tutorial. And, yes, if you're not english native speaker, it's uncredibly difficult to make a really good scenario. But we can't help with that. -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Monday, February 7 2005 07:26
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There's something I don't get: why there is so much BoE scenario and just eight (sorry if I missed something) BoA scenarios ? If it's just a matter of time, I don't understand why you're all deseperate... If no, what it means ? Is TM the only scenario writter ? I think, there's gonna be new players who's gonna make new scenario, just have to wait. How was it at the release of BoE ? I wasn't here. The thing is, if someone make a really meaningless scenario (I think about Archmagi Micael, who makes two scenarios, what I've bate-tested), you can't "be nice" to him. You can told him that his scenario need more punch, a better plot, or whatever, but the undeniable truth is here: your scenario isn't enjoyable ! You can't say:"Mmh, interesting...Continue like that, and in some years, you're gonna make a good one !". The problem is some people just don't have any ideas about what make a good scenario, and what make a bad one. Excuse me, it sounds pretty agressive, but, if you have played some Avernum or Exile games, if you have played some BoE scenario, you know what's about. I've just read the Drakefyre's plot help on his site. It's just what all begginers need. Don't put a thousand monsters in a room, just align. Think about the story. Why is there this kind of creature here ? Gee, it's not that difficult ! Haven't you read books, haven't you play paper rpg ? I can understand the programming problems: I can't do it, I just don't understand the thing. But peoples who write scenarios and want them beta-tested can do it. It's just an inspiration problem. It's like writing a book: everyone of us can write, yes ? (Hum, I mean, in our native language, excuse my english :) ). It doesn't mean we're all Moorcock, or Lovecraft, or Tolkien. We just don't have the talent to tell story. Of course, some will make bad scenarios, and after some try, they're gonna make great ones. But some just can't, they're not good narrators. It's elitist, but, eeh, you want to be an artist, and it's how it works. If you make a scenario and the beta-testers just say "stop writting scenario", "please go kill yourself", or "for the love of god, just stop sending me your trash !", it doesn't mean that you have to stop...It means what you've really missed something ! Don't try again now. Make a pause, try to analyse the good scenarios you've played to, take some hollidays, get some inspirations in the books or movies you like...(I haven't say in other's people scenarios !) I've try to be a professional musician, but I can't. So I've just stop playing for some times, and I will try again, with a new...how to say...point of view ? After that, if I know I can't do it, I'm just gonna stop, it will just be unreachable dream. Let's try something else. Excuse me, it sounds really ugly, but it's just what I think, and I didn't mean to offense anyone. Hope I don't gonna be banned in Avernum for what I've said... :) -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Monday, February 7 2005 00:31
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Oh, peoples, peoples...You all apparently use too much skribbane... Alorael, I think some guys sneak into your fortress and just serve themself in your stock ! I'm gonna open a desintoxication center for the spidweb board's member ! It's gonna be free of charges for the ones who triple post. :) [ Monday, February 07, 2005 00:32: Message edited by: Blaspheme ] -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Sunday, February 6 2005 19:29
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Excuse-me for posting another meaningless topic for you, but why some BoA scenarios can't be downloaded at spidweb ? Like the HLPM, Canopy: Manufactured Womb and Xerch'de... I've downloaded the HLPM at Keladon's site, and I've read about the two other scenarios at The Lyceum, but I don't know where I can download them. I've used the search button in the forum, to check if you've already gave some informations, but I can't find anything... Is it spidweb who don't support this scenarios, or the writters who don't want them available at spidweb ? -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, February 5 2005 17:35
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The nice thing with Spidweb is that you can download the demos ! In the older games, I found Lost Souls really nice, if you like playing chess or Go. Galactic Core is really good too. Ocean Bound is fun, but not one of the best... I haven't play Homeland cause the graphics gives me headache. :) But, download the demos, it's fast and free, you know ! Nothing to lose. -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, February 5 2005 17:24
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Just get a book and cd method to get the right and left hand basis. All the books are kind of the same. Download "Guitar Pro 4", who's a nice little program, with a lot of...tabs ? (songs who are written with the number of the fret to play, not with the habitual A-B-C-D-E-F-G stuff). You can download a lot of exercises with Guitar Pro... And play a lot with friends, it's of course the best way to make progress ! Have you already buy your bass ? The site: http://www.guitar-pro.com/ [ Saturday, February 05, 2005 17:28: Message edited by: Blaspheme ] -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Thursday, February 3 2005 17:31
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Using characters from the trilogy can be great and fun, some purist will not like that, but you can't please everyone... I've played some BoE scenario with renowned characters, there were absolutely fun and playable. It just depends on what you gonna make them do and say... -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, February 2 2005 20:41
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The Spiderwebs games teach me english. :) Lost Souls works like a chess game, so you have to use your brain, it can't be bad ! :) When I played the Avernum trilogy, I made a full map for each game, on 1 meter square paper. I made a 1/1 scale with the automap, it was a lot of work, and it teach me patience and design... I think scenario writting for BoA and BoE can teach you a lot of stuff,(especially programming and patience, of course), although I never try... -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, February 2 2005 17:19
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Mmh, yeah, be carefull with the "I'm gonna change Avernum" kind of scenario...The oldest and wisest (mmh, more wise ?) Avernum's player don't like, and just don't believe in that. A singleton scenario can be nice, and your strategic fights ideas sounds good. But the main idea "I want to be the most powerfull mage" sounds too Diablo-esque. The ultimate quest for power is kind of...overused idea, no ? If you like the mages, the Tower of Magi, and the Triad, (like everyone, I think), why don't you write a scenario about being an apprentice in the Tower ? Have small quests about searching for an ingredient, for a book, and whatever...You can have lots of political intrigue, other mages who want to be part of the Triad, who assassinate each other. I think about a "Terry Pratchett's Tower of Magi" ! Can have fun, good plots, and perhaps it's easier to write a scenario about a mage in the Tower than a scenario about the potencially Archi-incantator/-trix. Voila ! -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, February 2 2005 01:11
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Nice poll, I really enjoy the questions ! :) I think I'm in love with "X" ! A really great character, a lot of fun, and a usefull teacher. How sad he doesn't appears in other Avernum games... Look likes you like him too, Solodrick, make a scenario about him ! -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, February 2 2005 00:08
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With the BoA released, I hope Avernum 4 is gonna be really different from that you all suppose. Cause if you want a new Vahnatai-Empire war, you just make you're own scenario. I think in some month, there's gonna be a lots of them. I hope the main plot's gonna be REALLY different from what I read in this topic. I don't want another Slith war (like main plot), or "Avernum 4: The Return of The Vahnatai"...Spidweb isn't Blizzard, and Avernum isn't Diablo. I want something really exciting for the Avernum's fan, like exploring the surface in Avernum 3. If you have played Avernum 1 and 2 before, you got really...mmh, excited when you walk outside for the first time ! You've eard so many things about it... So, just have a plot like "Mmh, ultimate war is raging outside, now, go to your first diplomatic mission, after, you will have to find some allies, then, sharp your blade, there's gonna be some painfull fights". I don't think Jeff is gonna make just a long BoA scenario. In the BoA basics scenario, he gives us a Slith war, and a rebel story. He's not gonna make that again. And don't you think it's gonna be about the first adventurer's band send in Avernum ? (Perhaps you all have discuss about it, and I'm sorry, I haven't check the forum since some month...) -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, February 1 2005 22:36
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Ni hao, tongzhi ! Ni shi zhongguoren keshi laowai ? If you can't get this Max...heu..hi ! -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, September 25 2004 20:25
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It's unusual to have a scenario like ASR, cause you can play it two times, choosing the differents storyline: the Empire one and the rebel one...And habitually, people who makes scenario don't do what, cause it takes (I think) a lot of time, and they prefer to make two scenarios, than one with multiple choice. At the time ASR was created, there was just 4 BoA scenarios, but a lot of BoE scenarios. I remember playing a scenario like that, "Clash of the Spears", I think. A really good storyline, and the choice to help the Slith or the other race, I forgot the name... -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, August 28 2004 18:23
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I'm level 17, and have 10 points in Intelligence, who gives me 186 essence pts, but of course, it's never enough. Do you play with a few powerfull creations (like 2 boosted cryoras), or with a lot of smaller ones? I play with 4 thads, 2 searing artilas, and 1 cryora, all with just 2 points in intelligence. I find the game really difficult! I understand pretty well the Avernum system, but I don't get the Geneforge's one... -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, August 28 2004 18:23
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I'm level 17, and have 10 points in Intelligence, who gives me 186 essence pts, but of course, it's never enough. Do you play with a few powerfull creations (like 2 boosted cryoras), or with a lot of smaller ones? I play with 4 thads, 2 searing artilas, and 1 cryora, all with just 2 points in intelligence. I find the game really difficult! I understand pretty well the Avernum system, but I don't get the Geneforge's one... -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, August 28 2004 16:47
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I have level 20 Searing Artila, but they have 0% to hit when I fight against the shades in the Crystal Caverns. So, I Bless them, but, same percentage...I have the same problem fighting the Sharon's Experimental Vlish. I play a "blessing" Shaper, with no weapons skills, just...blessing magic. What can I do? I've put some skill points in Battle Magic, but my hit percentage is really poor... Please, people, help me! I think my Shaper is really weak, where can I put my points? -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, August 28 2004 16:47
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I have level 20 Searing Artila, but they have 0% to hit when I fight against the shades in the Crystal Caverns. So, I Bless them, but, same percentage...I have the same problem fighting the Sharon's Experimental Vlish. I play a "blessing" Shaper, with no weapons skills, just...blessing magic. What can I do? I've put some skill points in Battle Magic, but my hit percentage is really poor... Please, people, help me! I think my Shaper is really weak, where can I put my points? -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, August 28 2004 06:29
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I think the items on the right of your caracter's graphic are too small...and with the item's name under the shop's items, it's difficult to see. I've sell a lot of items, by mistake, 'cause of that. And I like the "make mines and turrets" idea. I imagine a lot of ambush with that... :) EDIT: Oh, yeah, and I was thinking about a advantages/disadvantages thing, like in the Exile-Avernum serie... [ Saturday, August 28, 2004 18:26: Message edited by: Blaspheme ] -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, August 28 2004 06:29
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I think the items on the right of your caracter's graphic are too small...and with the item's name under the shop's items, it's difficult to see. I've sell a lot of items, by mistake, 'cause of that. And I like the "make mines and turrets" idea. I imagine a lot of ambush with that... :) EDIT: Oh, yeah, and I was thinking about a advantages/disadvantages thing, like in the Exile-Avernum serie... [ Saturday, August 28, 2004 18:26: Message edited by: Blaspheme ] -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, August 28 2004 06:29
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I think the items on the right of your caracter's graphic are too small...and with the item's name under the shop's items, it's difficult to see. I've sell a lot of items, by mistake, 'cause of that. And I like the "make mines and turrets" idea. I imagine a lot of ambush with that... :) EDIT: Oh, yeah, and I was thinking about a advantages/disadvantages thing, like in the Exile-Avernum serie... [ Saturday, August 28, 2004 18:26: Message edited by: Blaspheme ] -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, August 25 2004 22:35
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Mhh, I don't know, but it sounds a little bit late to give Jeff some ideas... But your ideas sounds great! :) [ Wednesday, August 25, 2004 22:35: Message edited by: Blaspheme ] -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, August 25 2004 22:35
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Mhh, I don't know, but it sounds a little bit late to give Jeff some ideas... But your ideas sounds great! :) [ Wednesday, August 25, 2004 22:35: Message edited by: Blaspheme ] -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, August 25 2004 22:35
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Mhh, I don't know, but it sounds a little bit late to give Jeff some ideas... But your ideas sounds great! :) [ Wednesday, August 25, 2004 22:35: Message edited by: Blaspheme ] -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, July 24 2004 04:21
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To the Cthulhu'a adept: Good relations with Russia! Not good as before, but still okay. A lot of russian live in the north of China, a lot of prostitute, also...Good relation between the university, a lot of exchanges. The thing is, now, the chinese students prefer to go in Europe, or US to study. About the kakes, it's the same: you buy them on the stores, in the street, etc...The DVD cost a half dollar, the audio CD a dollar. A book cost 2 dollars. The minimum salary is...30 dollars a month! But there isn't a lot of people who earn so less. Usually, you earn something like 100 dollars a month. There isn't any law about how much you earn: it depends on your capacity to bargain with your boss. There isn't child prostitution in China: the law are hard with that: death penalty for everybody who get caught! People who want that go in Thailand, China is way too much strict! Here, the kids only work with their parents, and only after school, who is obligatory to 16 years old. The gouvernement really check that, cause education is a priority to have a better country! :) And, yes, I'm a Lovecraft fan... :D To the Ultimate Weapon Custer (you have to explain me what it means custer...): Bien sur, I'm french! Check my signature, it's french. :) But what means "your post style is rather french"? I live in China since sometimes, now: I study chinese and chinese civilisation, and teach french. -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |
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written Friday, July 23 2004 03:40
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The main reason for the death penalty for drug use is what the country is way too big : don't want to be bothered by a such problem. Drugs are bad, m'kay? So, for all the dealers, it's death penalty. If it's just for use, it's forced work. the thing is the gouvernment don't want to help the drugs-users, just want to put them in jail... It's sad, of course, but it will cost a lot of money to help them : my province is called "the paradise of hard drugs", cause it's near Myanmar, Laos, and Thailand ; there is a lot of heroine, cocaine, and opium. On a country this big, you can try to stop the drugs buisness, but help the drug-users is the next step. The foreigners are the first clients, and, just after, the poorest farmer. Before, they were using the drugs like medication, and now, it's cultural... About marihuana, you don't have a lot of trouble if you get caught, just in fact, cause people don't know what it is. Something like six month ago, a policeman come to my house to check my girlfriend's paper : I was smoking a plot, so, I was afraid when I see the police coming. My masterpiece was on the ashtrash, half smoked : the policemen saw it, and haven't say anything ! :D They are more less flexible with opium, and hard drugs. In my province, the marihuana grows naturaly on the mountain, and we cook and eat the seed, use the plant to make clothes, etc... About the expansion, I think the chinese minds are different. Please, don't laugh, but really, we don't want more territory. First, cause we have a lot of place...Secound, we have great ressources : a lot of petroleum in the XinJiang province (the muslim one, on the west), in the sea, and stuff...Third, we just don't want more problems : we have some (ahah) with the Tibet, and the XinJiang, who both want to be independant. Now, (said the gouvernment), it's not time to do war, or to search for new ennemies : it's time to do buisness, to develop the country, to regain a name. You know, in chinese, China is ZhongGuo, who means " The country in the center ", the Middle-Earth, ahah! Just to say that we were before a great country, and we want to have a name : now, we are know like the country who violate the human rights, and who make the best false-Nike, false DVD, false-all-you-want in the world. We want to be know as a country who has something to say, about our history, our culture, our civilisation, our people. It's not just JetLi, and bad alchool! :) But yes, we're proud of our KongFu, and if you want to know what, see Kill Bill, the 2nd DVD : a great revenge against the japanese, ahah! :D Tarantino really know something about what the chinese think about the Japan and the katana! :D For now, the problem with Japan is the petroleum in the sea : they say it's their, we say it's ours...Plus, a lot of minor incidents... Ow, and something else : in China, it's people who HAVE money who pay taxes! It's too dificult to control the small restaurant, the small shops, and stuff...So, Wall*Mart and Carrefour pay taxes, but not the barbecue guy in my street! Fntagn Cthulhu! Not dead what forever sleep... -------------------- "Il est interdit de se battre sur le Champ du Massacre; dit-il avant de marquer une pause, le temps de reflechir a la logique de ses propos." Discworld, The Colour of Magic Posts: 178 | Registered: Monday, June 7 2004 07:00 |