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bulwark inn in Geneforge Series
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I read the walkthrough and accordingly raided the commander's room after dealing with the clawbugs but didn't attack Hogue. I didn't find the key in his dresser. What could I have done wrong?

And about Koama (?)'s quests, can someone eliborate on those for the walkthrough is not detailed enough?
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
mandrake tincture in Geneforge Series
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hope nobody get bored with me yet. :)

How many bottles of this stuff are there in the entire game? Are there enough for all recipes?

It would be nice if someone could provide a list of where the minor ingredients could be found.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
Testing Grounds and Sea Cave in Geneforge Series
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I have got the second stone now. :) What I did was sending creatures to lure the golem out one at a time toward the essence pool where I was waiting.

However, I got stumped with the three golems. Are they blessed or something? What kind of spells I should use of them then?
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
how to obtain both Greta and Alwan after Harmony Island in Geneforge Series
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I did exactly that, but I haven't yet sold the excess armors and whatnots for I don't know if I would be needing them later on or not, ie I have now four sets of armors - each for fire, cold, energy, and poison - although I doubt that I will need them all but I like to be prepared.

So far, I sold the two girdles of insight since I like the student's belt better. Otherwise, I have three huge piles of items. I hope that by the end of the next island, I might be able to dispose some of them though.

Aside from the perfect stuffs, what else there is needed to be forged really?

I have done the blessed necklace early in the game to help me. I haven't done other forging yet.

What should I aim for so that I can begin to dispose some ingredients (such as gemstones and crystals)?
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
how to obtain both Greta and Alwan after Harmony Island in Geneforge Series
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I never exactly like the endings of GF anyhow -they all are unsatisfying to me.

Well, I will just play by ears then. Here at Harmony Island, I think D. is on the right. The rebelling didn't do anything good. Lankan is just a tool for Litalia. He might think he is doing a rebel work but it all comes down to serving either one shaper or another.

How did you guys get all the money for training? Even with my utilising the roamer marsh's vlishes advantage, I am still in need for some more coins. I don't dare to sell the gems or beautiful crystals for fear of needing them for some magic forging later on. How many of those forging do you actually do, btw?

I made the blessed necklace and that's it b/c I am not sure if it's worth the cost of those expensive ingredients.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
Testing Grounds and Sea Cave in Geneforge Series
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Have 2 questions about these area.

1. What would happen if I kill the people in Sea Cave for opening their storage? Does it make the difference in pro-shaper, pro-rebel aspect? If not, I will go back and do it although now the exp. probably be quite pityful.

2. I am now at lev. 18 agent and want to know how to defeat the two golems. What are the tricks? Firebolt and spray acid don't seem to do much.

thanks anyone who takes time to answer this.
:)
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
how to obtain both Greta and Alwan after Harmony Island in Geneforge Series
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On the second thought, who else would be the pro shaper trainer and who would be the pro rebel trainer?

If I want to be a purist, then does it mean it be a pro shaper?

I actually haven't made up my mind yet so I have been holding off using the past canisters so far. I wonder if it is possible to come back to the past areas and and use them if I wish so. However, if I get to the rebel side, wouldn't that mean that I couldn't get into San Ru again without having to fight through?

To what extent that the hostile reaction of shapers would go if I acted pro rebel (short of killing shapers of course)?

I am now at the point of leaving Harmony and not really sure about anything.

Please help.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
how to obtain both Greta and Alwan after Harmony Island in Geneforge Series
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Is it possible to boost up the pro servile opinion before reaching her though?

It seems that the one in Dhonal gives cheaper training. I am agent so not much into shaping creatures.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
what would happen if I give the canister to Lankan? in Geneforge Series
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Would it count as favour opinion toward rebel or would it be considered a crime that I cannot go back to the shaper? I didn't give the tome to the trainer back in Greenwood either since I'm not so sure and partly b/c I have already pilage everything there already. :)
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
how to obtain both Greta and Alwan after Harmony Island in Geneforge Series
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Thanks.

One more question, I have made pro shaper opinions and now I read that there is a cheap trainer in the island for pro rebel. So, how many more opinions I need to give for her to train me? Most of the time, I give pro shaper ones up till I met Lankan.

I don't really care for canisters at the rebel camp, so that's fine but it would be nice to get train at D's keep for less.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
stealing in San Ru in Geneforge Series
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Does 'forgiveme' work? I didn't see it on the G3 book.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
how to obtain both Greta and Alwan after Harmony Island in Geneforge Series
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Sorry if this repeats other's posts. btw, I am at Harmony Island and now pro shaper just to get trained. :) I will be going to rebel camp next and not quite understand the walkthrough here. I heard that you can get both helpers to the next island - but how? Would appreciate if someone could give me tips on that.

Which would be more beneficial in the next island - pro shaper or pro rebel? And if I have been given pro shaper opinions, how should I remedy that for pro rebel training?

I actually feel pro shaper at Harmony Island - as D. said - he was not a god.

From what I read, the rebel started from the gatherers (they are not serviles, right?) not the poor serviles.

thanks all.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
How many points has each ability? in Geneforge Series
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This might sound stupid, but what is the max point for ability? I thought 3 but apparently wrong. Before I hadn't wanted to use the canisters but now am getting waver for I like to max out my agent power. Then again, I am not interested in all shaping canisters and think not worth using them over 6.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
stealing in San Ru in Geneforge Series
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I wonder if there is any opportunity to get pods from the herb store later on? I was caught stealing dried herbs outdoors and now I can't steal from any other containers any more.

The stealing trick doesn't work with items in containers.

Also, is it worth to go back to crystal mines in Greenwood to harvest more crystals?
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
roamer marsh - where is the tunnel? in Geneforge Series
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I have only one point of luck from the charm and was at level 11-12. It was not hard at all and there was no risk. This is how I did it although I'm sure that could be the better way for the more experts:

As soon as I entered the area, move the cursor over the map on the middle spot of its route (should be about the intersection there), click for the characters to move there. This way I can catch a glimpse of the vlish when I drew near there then click F right away. The vlish will freeze or move away a few paces. Then I will move my characters to its anticipated path (ie if it was facing W then it will turn around and move oppositely). It won't attack you as long as you keep the reasonable space from it. When round 2 begins, it will move toward you and unfailingly stopped just an arm reach from you. A few slashes (if you have G or A) with a possible daze spell can guarantee a success.

btw, I never could find out what became of the hoard of artilas that I missed at first. Did anyone meet artilas in Roamer Marsh at all?

Also, I am now a pro shaper agent but wonder if if is really possible to switch side or do whatever to get the most from both in this island
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
roamer marsh - where is the tunnel? in Geneforge Series
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This is how this incident happened to me (now that I calm down enough to think back):

Well, I happened to roam about after clearing the area (btw, there had been a vlish there the first time - not sure if it had anything to do with the subsequential vlished) when I somehow got separated from Alwan and Greta. So, I tried to regroup them when I found that they were facing a hoard of artila. I was panicked so hit reload button and afterward regretted it so I reentered the area and rambling about - and that was when a vlish appeared. I got the girdle of might then. I tried again and received another girdle. I think the first 5 or 6 vlishes dropped something. After that, I have to reload once or twice but it is worth the time. I now got over 10 girdles to sell (250 each). Good business!

Does it have anything to do with the shrubs in south marsh area?

Anyway, hope it help to increase someone's purse now.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
roamer marsh - where is the tunnel? in Geneforge Series
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hey, I found out something nice from this area.

If you enter the area from the south, then go nw toward the middle road that leads to the building (You need to take the certain path - if not, nothing will appear.), a terror vlish will appear and will leave nice items when killed. I got many girdles of might so far this way. Keep enter the area for more and try anew if nothing appears. I have no idea how many vlishes are there but it's getting fun with all the things they drop. It is rather petty but yields good profit.

Would be appreciate if someone could let me know more about this experience.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
roamer marsh - where is the tunnel? in Geneforge Series
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Have question about this area. I tried the softer approach with Shen and was told about the secret tunnel.

Then, after the clearing of the area, I found an extra creature - so far a vlish that yielded the girdle of might. I wonder if this has to do with the tunnel that Shen had mentioned or not.

Also, where do I look for the tunnel. I noticed an empty spot in the marsh area in the north but don't know how to get there.

Can anyone give me some help?

By the way, I'm sure there should be more rogues but not sure which way I should walk to get them to come out.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
Where are all the Senarios? in Blades of Avernum
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I've not been here for a while so would like to know where to download those new scenarios such as Emerald Mountain?
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
Note to Dragongirl in Blades of Exile
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thanks, I have been away awhile also.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
Win BoA bug : Inventory bug. in Tech Support
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I have this same problem too, and it doesn't belong to any of the two above causes.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
Search Sage's House in Blades of Avernum
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spoiler

It is in the ne house of the nw section in Sweetgrove.

You can walk through one barrier (the lefmost one as you face it) and look at the shelf but won't find anything useful - then report back to Karen.
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
trap, lock, xp reward in Blades of Avernum
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I don't think it has to do with difficulty b/c I have got xp once from 3 diff door.

In sweetgrove, at Aviso's, you get disarm traps both ways to get 100 xp. :D
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
Sweetgrove - where is Somreth? in Blades of Avernum
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He supposes to give me find another runed stone quest but I am not sure if he is really in Sweetgrove. Please help!
Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00
trap, lock, xp reward in Blades of Avernum
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I have tried the nimble finger trait and am surprised to find that I actually got some xp from picking locks vs to bashing/spell unlocking.

Is there any xp system on this? How many unlocking is needed / 50 xp or is that just whenever a lockpick breaks?
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