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Indian Doctor Jailed For Agreeing To Abort Female Fetus in General
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1) The problem is that when you allow for such contingencies, people will find loopholes. What, for instance constitutes a risk to the mothers health? I would say that it should be allowed only when the mother is at risk of death or serious disability.
2) Rape and incest are both very serious and terrible crimes. Luckily, however, impregnation from rape is extremely rare. Due to physiological and psychological concerns, (the discussion of which might violate the CoC), women who are raped rarely conceive children. Incest is a terrible crime, but one of the main arguments for abortion in the case of incest is largely faulty. Contrary to poular belief, most children born of incest are not hideously deformed monsters. The risk of certain congenital diseases and defects is higher, but not a certainty. This is of course referring to cases of parent-child or brother sister incest. Cases of impregnation by cousins and such, while taboo in many societies, run very little risk of any serious disabilities for the resulting offspring.
3) There is an institution in most of the world called adoption. The real issue is whether the mother can safely deliver the baby. However, with caesarean section delivery this makes it much easier. See this story.

Ultimately, in order for me to accept an abortion as morally acceptable. You would need to convince me that the damage caused by the bearing and delivery of the unborn child would be great enough to merit terminating life.
Abortion is a very, very serious issue, and should be an absolute last resort. It should never be a form of birth control. If you are having sex and don't want a child, (1) both partners should use appropriate birth control, and (2) you should realize that there is a risk of failure of the said birth control, which, although low, could lead to pregnancy. If you are not willing to accept responsibility for the potential outcomes of sexual acts, don't have sex.

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United Nations? in General
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What part of Florida are you in? I go to UCF.

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Indian Doctor Jailed For Agreeing To Abort Female Fetus in General
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This is true. They are obviously considered people as far as sex discrimination is concerned, but not as far as the right to live is concerned. At least be logically consistent.

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United Nations? in General
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I'm sorry for upsetting your sensibilities, Arancaytar. I feared that my incomplete list would upset someone. But I could hardly include all 200 countries or so. I included every country I was aware of spiderwebbers being from. So far only two people have listed other in the poll, so I didn't do too bad. On another note, please do not impugn my geography skills. The lack of a countries inclusion is not an implication that I am ignorant of the said countries existence. Rather, it means that I was unaware of any SW members in those fine nations. I apologized to our Dutch and Israeli members for not listing their homelands already. Hopefully, I'm misreading your post, but you seem rather mad. This was merely a meant as a semi-informative, yet humorous poll. If the inclusion of Azerbaijan, Lesotho, Mongolia, and Vatican City were not enough to give that away, I thought that the inclusion of California as an independent nation, and the listing of floating platforms, outer space, and France in the other category would have made it abundantly evident.
My apologies.

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United Nations? in General
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They aren't awake yet

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United Nations? in General
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I am aware that the Netherlands is a seperate country, I just didn't realize that anyone on this board was Dutch. My apologies to you, as well as the Israeli members, for not including your nations

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United Nations? in General
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Yeah, I thought of the geographical thing after the fact.

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United Nations? in General
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I knew I would forget some, but I couldn't think of any others. Some of the choices were obviously meant as jokes however.

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United Nations? in General
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This message board seems to have an amazingly international membership. I'm not sure if this has been done yet, but I'm curious to know what countries people are from.

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"As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it." --Albert Einstein
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Changes for Better or Worse? in Avernum 4
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As far as graphics are concerned, I think that many members of the community would be willing to make sprites and such. I don't know what copyright type issues this might cause, but otherwise, I think it could greatly enhance the graphics selection.

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Help Demo Problem in Avernum 4
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I needed 16 tool use to shut down one of the controls in Rentar's Keep.

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The Abominable Photo Thread IV: A New Hope in General
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Yeah. Wow.

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The Abominable Photo Thread IV: A New Hope in General
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No way! Yeah, I'm from the lovely town of Palmyra, but I am in school down in Florida.

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Talking ( Reputation / persuasion ) in Avernum 4
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I wasn't sure about a lot of the things at first, but now I am thouroughly addicted. When I try to play BoA I keep on clicking on a spot and wondering why my party isn't going there. I'm also quite fond of the seamlessness between town and outdoors.

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The Abominable Photo Thread IV: A New Hope in General
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These are a few years old. I'm to lazy to upload anything, so I'm just using pictures always on the web.

EDIT: Here is a video that I'm in.

[ Sunday, April 02, 2006 08:07: Message edited by: Smugglers' Alliance, Chief of the ]

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With cats I returned (cat movie inside)! in General
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That first image has suspiciously goatse-esque characteristics.

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With cats I returned (cat movie inside)! in General
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These felines will punish your encroachment.
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EDIT: These aren't showing up for me. I can't tell why not.

[ Saturday, April 01, 2006 19:56: Message edited by: Smugglers' Alliance, Chief of the ]

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With cats I returned (cat movie inside)! in General
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[ Saturday, April 01, 2006 15:26: Message edited by: Smugglers' Alliance, Chief of the ]

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Posts: 536 | Registered: Sunday, September 7 2003 07:00
With cats I returned (cat movie inside)! in General
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With cats I returned (cat movie inside)! in General
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Inaccessible rooms? in Avernum 4
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My guess is that you have to change the scripts.

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Modern day classics in General
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I could go with that, yeah.

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Minimizing in Avernum 4 in Tech Support
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Whenever I open Avernum 4 (in Windows), it immediately minimizes a little bit into the intro music. I have to maximize it, and often repeat this process as many as ten times or more before the game screen stays up. Anybody have any experience with this problem?

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Modern day classics in General
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My point Sigrfied, was that the older versions of Tristan and Isolde are aclaimed and of high quality. I knew about the story of Tristan and Isolde long before I was aware of Wagner's opera.
I'll admit that I don't know a ton about Rushdie, so you may well be right.
The gist of what I'm getting across is that it doesn't have the widespread appeal now to such an extent that I, a reasonably literate college student, have not heard of it, it seems unlikely that it will stand the tests of time.
I am not concerned with literary quality, well that's not quite true, but I recognize that mere good writing is rather commonplace. It is the ability to capture the imagination and consciousness of the public that truly enables a piece of literature to take the leap into the canon of Western Civilization.

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Just because we all love census topics in General
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What is the weirdest thing you've ever seen?
Ummm, a retarded bingo caller? I don't know.
What is the weirdest thing you've done?
Cross-dressed
What is the most humiliating thing you have ever done for money?
Snorted a line of pepper.
What is the most humiliating thing you would ever do for money?
How much money are we talking about?
If you could travel back time, what historical event would you like to witness “live” and why?
TM's conception, to prevent it.
If someone made a movie about your life, what would it be called?
Scary Movie
If you were a meal how would you describe yourself?
Tasty.
Have you ever gone a whole day without wearing underwear?
Yeah, I was recovering from an apendectomy in a hospital bed.
What is the stupidest thing you’ve ever bought?
If you had to kill a SW member, who would it be and why?
One of the admins, take your pick.
If you had to pick between TM or Alec, who would you pick? and WHY?(You can't ignore the question, you can't answer neither, and NO it's not for killing)
How about both?

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