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Originally written by Toenail Rejoices From Getting E3:

What gets bigger the more you take away from it?

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A hole?

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When young, I am sweet in the sun.
When middle-aged, I make you gay.
When old, I am valued more than ever.

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Perhaps happiness?

Don't forget...
They say I am only in your thoughts.
No one can truly contemplate me.
They say I don't exsist.
But when I do, I could destroy everything that exsists.

This could be very hard or very easy.

God is not the answer to this riddle.

I'm going to have to give a hint to what the answer is, aren't I?

Why isn't anyone guessing anymore?

Another (not of my own creation for once)!
What runs but never walks?
Has a mouth but never talks?

No, not a small child hyped up on sugar.

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Originally written by ef:

Even in countries where abortion is illegal, rape is one of the exceptions from the rule.

I work with women who, after delivery, want to kill themselves and their child. So I know a bit about this situation. I think the rate of suicides would go up, because the women would not know why they should honour the life of the child, when their own life is not honoured. You will argue that the woman's physical life is not threatened. But that is not what she primarily identifies with. A woman identifies with what she feels. If she says 'I', she refers to a 'feeling of me', not to what she thinks about herself or life in general.
When her emotion and feeling do not count, then she does not count. And in a traumatic situation, as rape is, when her feeling does not count, she might as well be dead; she feels extinguished.

You may not wish to accept this, that is of course your prerogative. Nevertheless, it's true.

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Originally written by EviL_TiM:
Whoever makes it, tells it not. Whoever takes it, knows it not. Whoever knows it, wants it not. What is it?

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In Bombay out of 7,999 abortions performed only one baby was male (WHO Report)

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Who Has Abortions?

Abortion is the most frequent surgical operation (National Center for Health Statistics)
Roughly 42% of all baby girls and 25% of all baby boys are aborted. - (Planned Parenthood)
40% of women who have abortions will have more than one (AG Institute)
50% of women who have abortions use it as their sole means of birth control (AG Institute)

From an American survey of 1900 women who have had abortions

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<15yrs - 3%
15-19 - 42%
20-24 - 33%
25-29 - 14%
>30 - 8%

Completed Education
<12yrs - 6%
High School - 39%
13-14 years - 26%
Bachelors - 19%
Masters - 4%
PHD - 1%

Number of Children

0 - 73%
1 - 14%
2 - 9%
3 - 4%
>3 - 1%

Race

African-American - 35%
White - 33%
Hispanic - 15%
Other - 17%
(CDC 1995)

Reason for abortion

Mother's Health - 3%
Baby has possible health problem - 3%
Rape or Incest - 1%
Couldn't Afford Baby - 21%
Not ready for the Responsibility - 21%
Concerned how child would change lives - 16%
A relationship problem - 12%
Not mature enough - 11%
Had all the children they wanted - 8%
Other - 4%

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In September, 1993, Brenda Pratt Shafer, a registered nurse with thirteen years or experience, was assigned by her nursing agency to an abortion clinic. Since Nurse Shafer considered herself "very pro-choice," she didn't think this assignment would be a problem. She was wrong. This is what Nurse Shafer saw:

" I stood at the doctor's side and watched him perform a partial-birth abortion on a woman who was six months pregnant. The baby's heartbeat was clearly visible on the ultrasound screen. The doctor delivered the baby's body and arms, everything but his little head. The baby's body was moving. His little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet. The doctor took a pair of scissors and inserted them into the back of the baby's head, and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the baby's brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic. But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy. It was the most perfect, angelic face I have ever seen."

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