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Raven v. Writing Desk
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quote:
Originally written by Drew:

That wouldn't necessarily disqualify you from having relatives, be they co-derived from said entity's forehead, or possibly rising from the frothy foam of the sea, the indirect result of an unorthodox patristerilization.
Interesting -- It never occured to me to relate the patristerilizor to the frothy foamchild, only the patristerilizee.

Anyway, Salmon may not have family, but he has a lover, you know.

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The next level in RP, personal thoughts. in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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While I didn't like the rakshasi, I wouldn't blame them for the Avernum RP's demise. People were working with them. I had a whole story arc planned about how the Gobby God who was telling Glogroth what to do was actually one of the rakshasi.

Several players who initially put in a lot of energy and got others involved in their storyline dropped out for different reasons. In turn, this made the players they were working with less invested. (I was the primary interacter with most of the Pralgadian players before falling prey to my tempestuous RL romance, for example.) There were also a few players whose factions were starting to look hard to play with (Infernal's tens of thousands of liches with teleport spells, or whatever it was) and a few others were so geographically isolated it was hard for them to interact with others (Ephesos, you come to mind there).

I think it was just so large that nobody felt like its success hinged on their own participation; but in fact, because most players only interacted with a handful of others, its success did hinge on every single player participating.

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Call of Cthulhu in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Buddha Hand = Cthulhu Head?

Kind of a cosmically scary equation...

[ Friday, November 16, 2007 15:56: Message edited by: Prick Against the Kicks ]

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Call for input: Standardizing on a rating rubric in Blades of Avernum
Raven v. Writing Desk
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My instincts are similar to ADOS's. The three major components of a successful game (or scenario) really boil down to the storytelling, the gameplay (mainly combat) and the technical part.

The "technical part" corresponds to scripting and sloppiness and such, and basically asks: are there any seams showing? Do the typos, dysfunctional scripts, strange combat happenings, contradictions, ugly graphics, bad zonification, or so on interfere with my suspension of disbelief? Or was it constructed competently?

Aran -- I think it would be very useful to have some binary (or trinary, etc.) categories used to describe each scenario as well -- more or less separate from subjective ratings -- and would make it much easier both to organize the scenarios and to learn about a scenario at a glance. For example:

Prefab Party / Any Party
Singleton Required / Any Party
Epic / Regular Length / Short
Linear / Open-Ended
Many Riddles / Few Riddles
Set in World of Avernum / Medieval / Modern / etc.
Combat / No Combat

I'm sure there are others that could be added, or perhaps some of these are unnecessary.
--t

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The next level in RP, personal thoughts. in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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And in fact, said issues might be exaccerbated because people would take everything personally.

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Name that tune in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Drakey? Good lord, not some 98 Degrees song?

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Name that tune in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Not 99 Luftballons, I hope.

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Divinely Touched Elite Warrior Nephil In Real Life in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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It took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about. Heh.

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Chinese Products Fail Again in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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He and She is not amoosed.

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Babelfish Contest #2 in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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BABELFISH CONTEST #2
This is a contest to see who can get the most hillarious results from translating one phrase through Babelfish. You can translate as many times as you want and you can use whatever translation settings you want, but you cannot edit the output whatsoever at any point.

You don't have to post the output of Babelfish after every translation, but you do need to post the list of translations used in addition to your final result.

The phrase for this contest is:

"This novel is not to be tossed lightly aside, but to be hurled with great force."

(A quote from Dorothy Parker.)

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Babelfish Contest in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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I think I can soundly award the first place prize to Dikiyoba's entry:

"the net of the declaration of middles to the program greets the switches to the image of the mirror. It transmits your reason to the hatch."

English-German-English-German-English-Russian-English-Russian-English-Italian-English

Admittedly, the second sentence in the phrase is probably most responsible for this win. Congratulations Dikiyoba!

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Protesting (In General) in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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I think you were spoken for when the idea was first breached. I mean, that's why it's necessary to restrain you!

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Chinese Products Fail Again in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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quote:
Originally written by Excalibur:

... murderers, rapists, homosexuals, corrupt government officials, and female pastors.
No offense, Excalibur, but it sounds like you are just blindly repeating what you hear from your parents (or some other authority figure). That isn't really an accurate list of what you'd get from the Bible. Listing murderers and rapists clearly makes sense, but there are a lot of varieties of people whom the Bible calls evil more often than female pastors, or queers for that matter. For one thing, what about people who don't recognize Jesus as their savior? It goes on and on about them.

:rolleyes:

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Chinese Products Fail Again in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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quote:
Originally written by Taliesin:

quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

I'll posit that in a historical content, vis a vis amorally promoting the fittest of the species, that conquest rape had an entirely positive social function.
See Gilgamesh for details... except that not even the Mesopotamians viewed that as a positive thing.

Um, how does Gilgamesh suggest that? The fact that Gilgamesh raped all the women was one of the complaints the people had against Gilgamesh, that caused them to turn to the gods for help.

And I'll point out that I said "entirely positive," not "positive." It's not hard to argue that, at least under certain very limited circumstances, prostitution doesn't cause unrest or other social problems, and doesn't make anybody unhappy. It's hard to imagine any circumstances in which rape doesn't make somebody unhappy and cause some kind of social disturbance.

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Protesting (In General) in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Clearly, what Alec needs from us isn't exactly a hug. Wink wink, dearie. Now, where did Dareva go just when I needed her help...

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Chinese Products Fail Again in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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It's all about the bonobos.

Comparing rape and prostitution is a bit shaky, considering that practically no one will suggest rape can have an entirely positive social function, whereas plenty of people will argue that for prostitution (and quite rationally, however much the idea may be anathema to Winnemucca).

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Babelfish Contest in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Read the first post again, Aran ;)

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Babelfish Contest in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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As per Alorael: this is a contest to see who can get the most hillarious results from translating one phrase through Babelfish. You can translate as many times as you want and you can use whatever translation settings you want, but you cannot edit the output whatsoever at any point. You will need to post the translation chain you used in addition to your final result.

(Yes, you must use Babelfish, not a Google app.)

The phrase for this contest is:

"Welcome to the Spiderweb Software message boards. Leave your sanity at the door."

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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I agree with your metaphors.

If we don't attempt such impossible tasks, what good are we at all?

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Thuryl is absolutely right. It's very hard to get a conviction for rape compared to other violent and traumatic crimes such as murder or simple physical assault.

The reason is that the definition of sexual assault is much more specific.

First there is the issue of proving the sex happened. If you have a dead body, it's hard to argue there wasn't a murder. If you have an injured person, obviously there was an injury. While rape leaves physical evidence, the evidence is comparably fleeting, often going away after a single shower -- which, if your body has been violated in a disgusting way, is probably the first thing you'd think of doing.

(Additionally, the fleeting evidence has more chances to not be collected: using the evidence collection kit, even if it is done by skilled and caring medical personnel, is re-traumatizing both physically and psychologically for the survivor, so s/he might choose not to do it; and the survivor might not report the rape early enough to use the kit, or at all.)

Second there is the issue of proving lack of consent. This is not an issue in other crimes. While you can always argue that somebody committed suicide, generally, if there is a murder, you can be pretty sure the victim did not give informed consent to what happened. Same thing for physical assault. Really, who asks you to maim them? But since non-assaultive sex is so common, you have to prove lack of consent. For the vast majority of rapes, acquaintance rapes, this is very hard to do. Sex (whether assaultive or not) typically does not involve third parties or recording devices. So it comes down to she said vs she said. And this is never enough in a criminal case, where the standard of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt. Even if a jury thinks that the survivor has a convincing and probable story, it's hard for them to completely rule out an impulsive one-night stand without additional evidence, evidence that usually does not exist in rape cases.

For this reason, only a small percentage of reported rapes are prosecuted. Usually, there just isn't enough evidence to get a conviction. Non-standard rapes, such as rapes of men and rapes committed by women, are almost never prosecuted because the different pattern is an additional chance for the defense to argue against the rape. (And both of those types of rape do happen!)

Having huge penalties for conviction is a poor deterrent for crimes if the criminal thinks they can probably get away with it -- or if they don't even think they are committing a crime, which is the attitude some men have about having sex when their partner doesn't want to.

The way to stop rape is to change our culture. When we have a culture where individual freedom is respected, where people are taught the social skills they need to survive as a single adult, where women are treated with dignity not just on paper but also in bars, and where the psychological impact of alcohol consumption is better recognized -- then maybe we can stop rape. But we're pretty far away from that right now. While we think it's okay to control another person, while so many of us don't know how to cope with adulthood, while women are treated as objects and the phrase "drugs and alcohol" has to be used instead of just "drugs," it's gonna be hard to do that.

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Raven v. Writing Desk
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I'd like to take a moment to point out that the vast majority of rapes are not committed by strangers in dark alleyways. The vast majority of rapes are acquaintance rapes, and are almost never connected to murder.

That said, I think Thuryl's point is pretty valid.

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How messed Babel Fish communication the international in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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So, I have a new stupid game idea.

You know that Wikipedia connection game where you have to get from, say, Albert Einstein to Rainbow Brite in 5 links, or whatever?

You could run it using Babelfish. Say you have to get from "smart" to "dumb" in as few translations as possible (rather appropriately). Of course, you can't edit the results; you can only resubmit them.

— Slartucker, who finds Alorael's way of signing off uniquely appropriate when he has to say to his own idea, perhaps not.

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Protesting (In General) in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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This is an standard pair of constraints for pretty much anyone who provides counseling. On the one hand, the client should always have confidentiality, for a host of ethical and clinical reasons. On the other hand, some rare pieces of information fall into the category of "mandatory reporting" for other ethical and clinical reasons.

Generally speaking, mandatory reporting covers intent to harm oneself or another, and child abuse. It does not normally apply to confessions of other crimes or to, say, breaking school rules. It's perfectly reasonable -- and typical -- for a school counselor to expand the scope of what he reports to include those things (or to be required to by the school).

I work in a parallel situation. My colleagues and I form a clinical treatment team, and it is explicitly stated that while the agency as a whole has strict confidentiality, there is zero confidentiality among staff; if I hear something of therapeutic relevance, I tell my colleagues.

Key words above: "explicitly stated." It would be unethical for me to listen to something a client expected to remain confidential without first stating the boundaries of confidentiality. And the fact is that when they are explicitly defined, complaints rarely surface. Everyone's on the same page and clients know what will happen as a result of what they say.

So if there are multiple complaints regarding confidentiality, chances are, it isn't being properly explained.

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Protesting (In General) in General
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While I applaud the students involved for having the initiative and the gumption to take on their school -- I also think the list of complaints is ridiculous. The "consent needed for vitamins" complaint in particular sounds so absurd that it makes me question the entire argument.

"No internet after 11," while perhaps unnecessary, isn't any different from rules that plenty of parents might make at home.

Maintenance requests aren't filled promptly -- gosh, welcome to the world.

The internet whitelisting sounds extremely stupid, but it isn't a violation of anybody's rights.

It sounds like the real problem is not the policies themselves, but how they are being presented. It sounds like there is no forum for discussion, and no way for the students to have contribute input to the decision-makers.

That particularly applies to the confidentiality complaint. If students are falsely told visits are confidential, that's a pretty big deal -- and I would recommend filing a complaint with the appropriate licensing agencies for the counselors involved. However, it sounds like there may simply have been a lack of communication.

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