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The Simplest Path in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 19:26 Profile #33
This argument is clearly going nowhere. I should've stopped a long time ago. Using y'all's version of logic, there's no way for me to win it anyway. Pure and simple. It doesn't make one of us right or wrong, it just ensures that one of us(in this case me) has no chance at winning. I could give an example of what I'm talking about, but I've stopped caring now.

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Did you know: When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."

Did you know: After the Holocaust, Germany decided that it takes at least 57 murders before they'll even consider prosecution and guys like Ted Bundy would known as 'Weekend Warriors'

Did you know: Most facts on the internet are made up with little or no thought to decency or good sense. And that most of the people who make them die a lonely pathetic death.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
The Simplest Path in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 18:22 Profile #30
Because my statement wasn't created make a point that doesn't hold up. I never said that negative numbers or partial numbers(fractions/decimals) don't exist. They do. They can be used in sound math formulas and have a value. Not being a whole number doesn't make something not exist. I'm saying the square root of a negative number doesn't exist. You're somehow not getting the entire part where I explained how you can't get a negative by multiplying the same number by itself. That is a proven mathematical impossibility, so the square root of a negative can't exist.

Now, the flaw in your statement(other the obvious lack of valid reasoning behind it) is in that fractions, like negative numbers have a value and can be used in non-theoretical math. Again, it doesn't have to be a whole number to be a number. Since they are based on trying to make something that the name itself admits doesn't exist work, imaginary numbers don't actually exist and all the self-reinforcing equations in the world can't really change that fact.

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Did you know: When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."

Did you know: After the Holocaust, Germany decided that it takes at least 57 murders before they'll even consider prosecution and guys like Ted Bundy would known as 'Weekend Warriors'

Did you know: Most facts on the internet are made up with little or no thought to decency or good sense. And that most of the people who make them die a lonely pathetic death.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Hintbook Questions in General
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Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 18:04 Profile #8
The Hintbooks are nice, even if they aren't needed. I've still got the Exile ones sitting neglected in a box in my room. Eventually, I'll senile, forget everything I know about Exile, and need them again. But if you can't afford them, don't bother. I'm pretty sure most of the Hint Book costs are the costs of actually making the book. Take the money you would've spent on Hint Books and buy more games.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Why? in General
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Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 17:15 Profile #20
Kinda like the oldschool D&D Dungeon Crawl, which is the worst RPG concept ever. The entire premise is to go into a dungeon and kill a bunch of crap for little or no reason. I tried one of those once, but I found myself MST3King* my way through the bland, pointless dungeon. Throw in a bunch of flashy graphics, and you have a modern RPG, which is why a lot of them suck. Plot, that's what Spiderweb games have. Rich, deep(enough) plot. The kind that says, 'hey, I have a reason for having my character do whatever it is my character does.'

*Throwing in a lot of mocking commentary and jokes revolving around the sheer stupidity of what's going on for the sole purpose of keeping what's left of one's sanity through all the inane and idiotic crap.

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Did you know: When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."

Did you know: After the Holocaust, Germany decided that it takes at least 57 murders before they'll even consider prosecution and guys like Ted Bundy would known as 'Weekend Warriors'

Did you know: Most facts on the internet are made up with little or no thought to decency or good sense. And that most of the people who make them die a lonely pathetic death.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
The Simplest Path in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 17:03 Profile #28
Um, I hate to break it ya, A, but your arguments don't make any sense. You're saying basically that 'imaginary numbers work because they don't have to follow math rules'. Your statement is that by multiplying i by itself you get -1. Of course, that's the premise behind i, but that goes back into the self-reinforcing loop thing I talked about earlier. To get -1, you have to multiply something that was just made up and can't mathematically exist.

[ Thursday, May 31, 2007 17:04: Message edited by: Bandit Keith ]

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Did you know: When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."

Did you know: After the Holocaust, Germany decided that it takes at least 57 murders before they'll even consider prosecution and guys like Ted Bundy would known as 'Weekend Warriors'

Did you know: Most facts on the internet are made up with little or no thought to decency or good sense. And that most of the people who make them die a lonely pathetic death.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
The Simplest Path in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 15:02 Profile #26
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

The math for imaginary numbers wouldn't have been invented if it didn't have some use. (Wikipedia lists some of the uses.)1.

Moreover, I dare you to explain to me why the square root of negative one does not exist in a way that does not also apply to the square root of two or to negative one itself. (This can be done, but it's harder than it at first appears.)2.
1. Those aren't uses aren't in useful in any relevant sense.

2. Huh? That last bit doesn't make any sense... Oh well, I'll still take a stab at it... Any number times itself regardless of whether it's positive or negative will yield a positive number in the answer. To get a negative answer in multiplication, one must multiply a negative number by a positive number. 'ie, -1 * -1 = 1, not -1. whereas, 1 * -1 = -1'

Thus the square root of -1 can't exist, since a negative number can't have a number that can be multiplied by itself to make a negative number(since all numbers multiplied by themselves makes a positive number).

Now, 2, like 1(square root of which is 1), has a square root. It approximately 1.4142135... there are more numbers beyond the 5, but my dollar store calculator only goes out to 8 digits.

Anyway, the point is that any positive number has a square root, even if it isn't a whole number, but a negative number can't have a square root because of how multiplication works. Period.

[ Thursday, May 31, 2007 15:05: Message edited by: Bandit Keith ]

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Did you know: When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."

Did you know: After the Holocaust, Germany decided that it takes at least 57 murders before they'll even consider prosecution and guys like Ted Bundy would known as 'Weekend Warriors'

Did you know: Most facts on the internet are made up with little or no thought to decency or good sense. And that most of the people who make them die a lonely pathetic death.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
The Simplest Path in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 13:33 Profile #24
As anyone who's dealt with the subject before knows, Imaginary Numbers are essentially numbers that don't and can't exist. In the case of College Algebra(where I first encountered the concept), they are the 'square root of negative one' which according to standard math rules isn't possible. Now, the math for imaginary numbers, in addition to not accomplishing anything, is based off of equations that ultimately loop around back to the beginning with no viable input other than its own equations. To put it in more simple terms it's like looking up a word in a dictionary and getting another word for the definition. Then when you look up the other word it leads you back to the original word. Hence the term 'self-reinforcing loop'.

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When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Why? in General
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Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 13:28 Profile #17
Speaking of visuals... Am I the only one who thinks they look better on a Mac than a PC?

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Did you know: When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."

Did you know: After the Holocaust, Germany decided that it takes at least 57 murders before they'll even consider prosecution and guys like Ted Bundy would known as 'Weekend Warriors'

Did you know: Most facts on the internet are made up with little or no thought to decency or good sense. And that most of the people who make them die a lonely pathetic death.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Why? in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 10:02 Profile #9
I like Spiderweb games cause if anything happens to my not crappy computers, I can always break out my old Performa 5200(don't ask why the hell I have it or how it still works, cause I really don't know). That and the Spiderweb games give me something that doesn't want my entire system resources to run, so I've got a good thing I can do while Daz Studio takes forever to load something or when I'm downloading a video file on my bare minimum DSL. Oh yeah, and (insert statement about great game plots here). 'Course, I like the Character Editors on most of the games. It's a lot better than inputing a bunch of annoying cheat codes

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Did you know: When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."

Did you know: After the Holocaust, Germany decided that it takes at least 57 murders before they'll even consider prosecution and guys like Ted Bundy would known as 'Weekend Warriors'

Did you know: Most facts on the internet are made up with little or no thought to decency or good sense. And that most of the people who make them die a lonely pathetic death.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Legends of Divinity OOC in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 07:31 Profile #519
That would make sense. Demons are known for their not getting along with each other, especially as they get higher on the power scale. This would be especially true for 2 who are that powerful as powerful as Geltor and Mangroankeen. Demons generally work together til a point and ultimately stab each other in the back. Or at least that's how I see it working. Hell, Safey himself basically set that up with 'Destroying them was hard enough, but making them civilized, that would never happen. Not even Burrard would try that.'

Of course, I did make some grammar/spelling adjustments.

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"These sunglasses sure make it difficult to see in the dark, but I refuse to take them off because I'm an American and Americans always wear sunglasses."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Jeff on programming in General
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Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 07:08 Profile #5
quote:
Originally written by Dr. Johann Georg Faust:

We were taught how to comment properly. We weren't taught about #define, because it doesn't exist in Java. We did, however, get drilled about using comprehensive variable and function names (neither too long nor too short) and error handling (which Java does do more conveniently). IMAGE(http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-clear-code/figure1.jpg)[/QB]
I'm jealous. You actually got to learn something in Java. My teacher basically just said read the book and figure it out on your own. Hell, I completely stopped trying to read the chapters after Ch 3 and just copied down examples and experimented with pieces of them 'til I got the stuff to work in my programs. Comments on the examples in the book were the only reason I was able to BS my way through the class.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Why? in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 07:03 Profile #3
Most games today(especially RPGs) tend to have entirely too much filler(hell, World of Chatcraft is nothing but filler). The newer games being released are like the Gilded Age in US History. On the surface they looks great, but peel back the gold foil and all you've really got is crap.

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Did you know: When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."

Did you know: After the Holocaust, Germany decided that it takes at least 57 murders before they'll even consider prosecution and guys like Ted Bundy would known as 'Weekend Warriors'

Did you know: Most facts on the internet are made up with little or no thought to decency or good sense. And that most of the people who make them die a lonely pathetic death.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
The Simplest Path in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 06:59 Profile #18
Thank you, Lenar. I humbly accept this most prestigious award.

Back to the memes thing. Having taken college Psychology & high school Sociology and watched countless programs on the History Channel, I am clearly (not) an expert in the field of human studies and behavioral sciences. Now, I have never liked self-reinforcing concepts(such as imaginary numbers), which are concepts where you try to follow the explanation of something and said explanation is essentially a big loop with no valid outside inputs. Through thorough (fake) scientific analysis, I have come to the conclusion that memes are just that, a self-reinforcing concept with no outside support. There simply is no practical way to prove or disprove the validity of the theory.

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When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
The Simplest Path in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 19:09 Profile #10
Oh for the love of... Er, I mean. We at the Church of James the Deity would like to apologize for that highly offensive statement and are planning on adjusting the statement. Unfortunately, due to male stupidity, the needed corrections will not be scheduled for completion for at least a week.

EDIT: J, PM

[ Wednesday, May 30, 2007 19:10: Message edited by: Bandit Keith ]

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When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Legends of Divinity OOC in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 18:29 Profile #515
So all that stuff was some behind the scenes forum advertising and recruitment?! Wow... I'm amazed... I really need to get some better hobbies...

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"These sunglasses sure make it difficult to see in the dark, but I refuse to take them off because I'm an American and Americans always wear sunglasses."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
The Simplest Path in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 18:27 Profile #8
Well, problem solved.

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When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
The Simplest Path in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 18:06 Profile #6
Consider it edited... And thus I say 'boo for pro-male sexism' and 'yay for female rights'

[ Wednesday, May 30, 2007 18:21: Message edited by: Bandit Keith ]

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When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Whatever Happened to. . . in General
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Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 18:03 Profile #6
But what do y'all do?

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When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Legends of Divinity OOC in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 17:20 Profile #513
Shadow Veil... huh? I'z don'tz likez wherez thatz couldz bez goinz.

Whatever it is, it had better be something spiffy awesome cool

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"These sunglasses sure make it difficult to see in the dark, but I refuse to take them off because I'm an American and Americans always wear sunglasses."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Whatever Happened to. . . in General
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Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 17:17 Profile #4
And thus the world became a worse place... or something stupid like that.

Well, I did that post as a joke, since back in the day I did a link to a forum site and got spammed and flame to hell and further. Ack, my brilliance is so unappreciated(either that or it doesn't actually exist and I've just been imagining it the whole time)

So exactly what is it y'all do there with your less than 5 people?

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When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
a simple question in General
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Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 16:40 Profile #11
The way I say it, minimodding is merely a lie made by the fascists to give the little people the artificial feeling of importance. Having said that... Volkswagenhagen!

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Did you know: When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."

Did you know: After the Holocaust, Germany decided that it takes at least 57 murders before they'll even consider prosecution and guys like Ted Bundy would known as 'Weekend Warriors'

Did you know: Most facts on the internet are made up with little or no thought to decency or good sense. And that most of the people who make them die a lonely pathetic death.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
a simple question in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 15:22 Profile #6
Swords are your best friends in the end(unless that's where you're being stabbed with one). They're better than beating people with sticks and have the most variety. Also, a thief with a spear just lacks flavor

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Did you know: When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."

Did you know: After the Holocaust, Germany decided that it takes at least 57 murders before they'll even consider prosecution and guys like Ted Bundy would known as 'Weekend Warriors'

Did you know: Most facts on the internet are made up with little or no thought to decency or good sense. And that most of the people who make them die a lonely pathetic death.
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
The Simplest Path in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 15:17 Profile #4
(censored due to somehow being against the CoC)

Disclaimer: I apologize for the content you don't get to see and you having read this disclaimer(and that next post of mine). We here at the Church of James the Deity would also like to apologize to any women who saw and were offended by the recently censored post. It was intended to show the horribleness of men while at the same time teaching the glorification of women. At the Church of James the Deity, our goal is to make women happy and not be offensive to them, because without women, there would be entirely too many Star Trek fans and Card Game Obsessed Geeks.

[ Wednesday, May 30, 2007 18:23: Message edited by: Bandit Keith ]

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When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Whatever Happened to. . . in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 15:13 Profile #1
Because it was done to me...

[spam](random garbage)[/spam]

[flame](random insults)[/flame]

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When asked about his voicing of Unicron, Orson Welles is quoted as saying, "Unicron was the perfect character for me to play. I find it easy to relate to him. We're both the size of a planet and we both can eat said planet."
Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Legends of Divinity OOC in General
The Abridged Series
Guardian
Member # 2080
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 15:10 Profile #511
Well, one of my characters basically sent Seoth an invite to her place, if ya wanna work with that

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"These sunglasses sure make it difficult to see in the dark, but I refuse to take them off because I'm an American and Americans always wear sunglasses."
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