Geneforge IV Survey
Pages
| Author | Topic: Geneforge IV Survey |
|---|---|
|
Guardian
Member # 5360
|
written Friday, September 28 2007 16:44
Profile
Yes, but do you really think that the majority of the canister-mad Rebels would want or agree to such a policy? -------------------- May the fires of Undeath burn in your soul, and consume it. Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00 |
|
Agent
Member # 4574
|
written Friday, September 28 2007 17:29
Profile
Do you really think the majority of Rebels are canister-mad? Besides, after a certain point use of more canisters is not necessary for the masses. Honestly, if there could be a constant "shortage" of puresteel, it would do the Rebellion a load of good. -------------------- Fluffy Turtles of the World, Unite! Posts: 1186 | Registered: Friday, June 18 2004 07:00 |
|
Canned
Member # 8014
|
written Friday, September 28 2007 17:39
Profile
I wish I had a canister (or two) of stength. *looks at jelly filled arm* -------------------- Muffins n' Hell|Muffins n' Hell: The Muffins Are Back Again I have an addiction to Spiderweb games. I like this image FYI, Iffy is short for Infernal Flamming Muffin. Posts: 1799 | Registered: Sunday, February 4 2007 08:00 |
|
Agent
Member # 4574
|
written Friday, September 28 2007 17:48
Profile
This is the mediocre work I was speaking of in the other thread, Iffy. -------------------- Fluffy Turtles of the World, Unite! Posts: 1186 | Registered: Friday, June 18 2004 07:00 |
|
Guardian
Member # 5360
|
written Friday, September 28 2007 18:11
Profile
The majority of the Rebels are not canister-mad, but their leaders or most powerful members (With the possible exception of Gretchen) are. Or, they have the almost racial madness of the Drakons. And, if they aren't too addicted to canisters, they won't hesitate to distribute them among the "lesser" soldiers. By the way, what drives you to put quotation marks around "shortage"? -------------------- May the fires of Undeath burn in your soul, and consume it. Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00 |
|
Agent
Member # 4574
|
written Friday, September 28 2007 19:00
Profile
quote:All of the highest leaders, Greta not being one of the highest leaders, have used many a canister. Litalia, the leader of the Humans, seems to have recovered from her addiction, proving it possible. I would not be surprised if she started some sort of rehabilitation center after the Rebellion. The Drakons on the other hand, we have always seen them at war or preparing for it, not unlike Sparta. They are not the Rebels I support, but anyways, I'd hope that societal pressure and peace time would force a change in the race of Drakons to make a more practical deviant. After all, if all they can do is make war then they will be useless. It's natural selection. You're second to last sentence is rather interesting. While having a powerful army is nice, why would they need it? It would most likely just destabilize the leaders power. As for shortage being in quotes, it's due to their most likely not being a true shortage after the Rebellion. After the war, I see the Drakons and Humans/Serviles creating atleast two different nations. The Drakons would either try to evolve to the point where their only purpose isn't war, or they enslave the humans and serviles to sustain themselves. From their, there would be fracturing into Drakonian tribes that were in constant war. In summary, the Drakons have to change for the Rebellion to have a positive future. Forgive me, it is late, and I realize that I rambled in this post. Oh well. -------------------- Fluffy Turtles of the World, Unite! Posts: 1186 | Registered: Friday, June 18 2004 07:00 |
|
Councilor
Member # 6600
|
written Friday, September 28 2007 19:04
Profile
Homepage
Originally by Goldenking: quote:Despite how numerous canisters are in every game so far, canisters are supposedly difficult to make. Puresteel is rare (I think), can only be crafted by a few well-trained individuals, and is also necessary for non-canister purposes like enchanted arms and armor. So, practically speaking, it would be impossible to give everyone enough canisters to drive them mad, and ordinary townspeople and farmers wouldn't be able to afford that many canisters even if it were possible. Now, a few working geneforges would be an entirely different matter... Dikiyoba now wonders what happens to all the puresteel (and crystal) used in canisters. Does it get all destroyed in the process of creating them? Or will we soon see some entrepreneurs start recycling used canisters? -------------------- Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
|
Lifecrafter
Member # 7252
|
written Saturday, September 29 2007 07:17
Profile
quote:Or maybe..the puresteel is absorbed also.. :eek: -------------------- Humans fight to enter insanity. You ain't evil until you hear this! Posts: 732 | Registered: Saturday, June 24 2006 07:00 |
|
...b10010b...
Member # 869
|
written Saturday, September 29 2007 17:56
Profile
Homepage
Actually, that's not impossible. Puresteel is highly purified steel that's been infused with essence; it's possible that the process of using a canister uses up the essence, meaning that the steel that was left would just be ordinary high-quality steel. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
|
Warrior
Member # 8036
|
written Monday, October 1 2007 14:32
Profile
Alwan Greta Trakovites (Shapers are Cruel Control freaks at heart, and Rebles are a bunch of Kindigardeners that rabble among themselves (or at least the humans and the Creations do) I Think that Trakovites are who the Rebels TRY to be . Healing or Haste These Spells plus blessing are just about the only ones I use. Roamer or Servile I like the Roamers out of Style, and Serviles are just cool, how ever, what's up with there noses? 9.99 GF4 is one of the Best titles Of Jeff's It looks like Some one actually gave the world some thought in All of his titles. Posts: 67 | Registered: Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:00 |
|
Canned
Member # 8014
|
written Monday, October 1 2007 15:34
Profile
quote:Dude, not all shapers are like that. Besides, they have to control shaping. But they do go overboard. And the Rebles...they are not kindergardeners. I can't really explain it though. -------------------- Muffins n' Hell|Muffins n' Hell: The Muffins Are Back Again I have an addiction to Spiderweb games. I like this image FYI, Iffy is short for Infernal Flamming Muffin. Posts: 1799 | Registered: Sunday, February 4 2007 08:00 |
|
Agent
Member # 4574
|
written Monday, October 1 2007 15:50
Profile
I hate to say it, but I have to agree with both of you on this issue. The Shapers are merely power hungry tyrants, who have tricked themselves, or atleast their lower agents, into believing their lies. Meanwhile, the Rebels do bicker, but in a way much better way than kindergarteners. It's actually rather democratic. They still have a lot of reforming to due though. And they sure aren't aspiring to be Trakovites. The Trakovites are nothing more then idealists, and the only way to obtain their goal is to destroy Shaping all together. Which would also create a humanitarian problem, as the food production of the Known World suddenly plunges, creating famine. -------------------- Fluffy Turtles of the World, Unite! Posts: 1186 | Registered: Friday, June 18 2004 07:00 |
|
BANNED
Member # 10430
|
written Monday, October 1 2007 20:16
Profile
Turtleking: quote:I'm not sure about that. The human/servile half seems to be a dictatorship (under Lilita), and the ranking system functions as a meritocracy. The Drakon half of the Rebellion is more interesting, resembling of an oligarchy based on merit (power and influence). However, it also has elements of a dictatorship. Ghaldring is pretty much top dog, although I wonder how long it will be until he is reduced to a mere figurehead by the newer generations of powerful Drakons. Iffy: quote:They are more like a conglomerate of races trying desperately to cooperate together, despite having radically different customs, histories and attitudes. Posts: 136 | Registered: Wednesday, September 12 2007 07:00 |
|
Shock Trooper
Member # 7143
|
written Tuesday, October 2 2007 21:19
Profile
Hah, the Rebels wish that they were as in control as the Shapers. At heart they are just the Shapers out of power who are willing to initiate further extremes. -------------------- "After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one." - Cato the Elder (234-149 BC) "The mind, if it exists, is nothing but an unfortunate after effect of the brain process." -Kripke "One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." -Friedich Nietzche Posts: 333 | Registered: Saturday, May 20 2006 07:00 |
|
Shock Trooper
Member # 9906
|
written Tuesday, October 16 2007 12:15
Profile
Homepage
1. Fav with shaper person Miranda, she is awesome, cute and intelligent 2. Fav Rebel person Pol, broke my heart when i had to kill him 3.Fraction I agree with the most Non-Drakon Rebels(i don't like shaping though) and Travokite 4.Fav spell Mass Madness 5. Fav creation Dryaks 6. Rating 9.0 I played it once I loved it, but i didn't feel the possible replay value -------------------- Life's important Questions: What is the best Artifact Gloves of Savagery Is there a more uber sword that the Puresteel Soulblade: No Vie va la Travokites Vie va la Kyryk Vie va la Serviles Vie va la Dryaks Your incompidence is your own fault Before you complain, ask yourself, does anyone care? The answer, of course is No. Posts: 301 | Registered: Tuesday, August 21 2007 07:00 |
|
Infiltrator
Member # 10578
|
written Tuesday, October 16 2007 12:30
Profile
Homepage
The drakons are simply the latest generation of Shaping tyrants, which was what the rebellion was trying to escape from. The main difference is that the drakons have no rules besides "I can tear you limb from limb, therefore you are my slave", whereas the Shapers had an effective, if imperfect, law code. I uphold tradition because there is nothing better to uphold. Of course, a little reformation in the system wouldn't hurt. -------------------- "We were meant to live for so much more. Have we lost ourselves?" - Switchfoot ---- My poetry Posts: 432 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2007 07:00 |
|
Shock Trooper
Member # 10374
|
written Wednesday, October 17 2007 03:08
Profile
Its not in dracon nature to have laws. For them strongest one is law. -------------------- If you listen to LakiRa@ all will go well! Posts: 263 | Registered: Sunday, September 9 2007 07:00 |
|
Infiltrator
Member # 10578
|
written Wednesday, October 17 2007 13:32
Profile
Homepage
quote:My point exactly. -------------------- "We were meant to live for so much more. Have we lost ourselves?" - Switchfoot ---- My poetry Posts: 432 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2007 07:00 |
|
Councilor
Member # 6600
|
written Wednesday, October 17 2007 15:31
Profile
Homepage
On the contrary, the drakons do have laws. It's just that all the laws were made by the strongest one. quote:Dikiyoba. -------------------- Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
|
Infiltrator
Member # 10578
|
written Wednesday, October 17 2007 15:42
Profile
Homepage
I suppose so. Drakon politics are interesting and complex, as illustrated in Quessa-Uss. That was a fun level. I loved getting Salassar all ticked off. :P -------------------- "We were meant to live for so much more. Have we lost ourselves?" - Switchfoot ---- My poetry Posts: 432 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2007 07:00 |
|
Warrior
Member # 8036
|
written Wednesday, October 17 2007 19:28
Profile
I tried a new approach to the game: find out who has the most riches, find them, slay them, take there loot and repeat the process until Im left! :cool: -------------------- Put your heart into all you do, even when it seems your are diving head first to your demise, for your heart knows the right path to a true victory! Posts: 67 | Registered: Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:00 |
|
Shock Trooper
Member # 10374
|
written Thursday, October 18 2007 02:39
Profile
Its difficult to kill all of the dracons they are too strong. -------------------- If you listen to LakiRa@ all will go well! Posts: 263 | Registered: Sunday, September 9 2007 07:00 |
|
Infiltrator
Member # 10578
|
written Thursday, October 18 2007 11:07
Profile
Homepage
quote:Sounds like my old signature. Which, of course, was what my rebel character said to Khyryk after "rescuing" him from Monarch. -------------------- "We were meant to live for so much more. Have we lost ourselves?" - Switchfoot ---- My poetry Posts: 432 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2007 07:00 |
|
BANNED
Member # 10430
|
written Friday, October 19 2007 05:08
Profile
Tale: quote:The drakons haven't targeted sapient races for genocide. That makes them ethically superior to the Shapers, who target entire species for genocide for the crime of existing. Posts: 136 | Registered: Wednesday, September 12 2007 07:00 |
|
Shaper
Member # 7472
|
written Friday, October 19 2007 10:32
Profile
Homepage
quote:Not yet. Right now, they have bigger things to worry about. However, they made it clear that if they could safely get rid of the human/servile side of the rebellion, they would. They regard creations (and humans) with less compassion then the Shapers. So what's to stop them from taking complete control, and effectively becoming the Shapers themselves, only with far more cruelty and power? The Shapers need to reform, not be overthrown by tyrannical lizards. -------------------- Scenarios need reviews! Please rate these scenarios at the CSR after playing them! Amnesia • El Presidente • Where the Rivers Meet • A Visit to the Madhouse Avatar • Aphobia • IMAGINE THIS SCENARIO Posts: 2686 | Registered: Friday, September 8 2006 07:00 |
