Avernum or Nethergate?

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Which is better, Nethergate Resurrection or Avernum 5? What about Nethergate Ressurection versus the other avernums or geneforge?

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Nethergate is a smaller world than any of the other games. The difference is that you can play different sides with different abilities (Romans are better fighter and Celts are better spellcasters). There are plenty of ways to replay the game. You should play both sides since then you can see the whole story.

Avernum 5 is much better than the earlier games especially compared to Avernum 4 because the game engine and mechanics have improved. Avernum 2 is still considered to have the best plot of the series. Battle disciplines in A5 make running a fighter finally interesting.
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Nethergate. The semi-historical is very nice, and it has one if the better plots of these games. After Geneforge, of course. :P

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I recommend downloading both demo files. Try Nethergate as recommended by Randomizer. It is based on an older game engine than A5, and is remarkably similar to Blades of Avernum. I've not had the opportunity to yet try A5, but how can you go wrong with a free demo? Have fun with both of them.

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The original Nethergate is, in my opinion, better than Nethergate Resurrection. But only just. The quest list, and new dungeons/new dialogue strings/nicer resolution are all very, very welcome changes. But Nethergate just seems more... unique. The fact that terrain has shadows sounds like a silly thing, but it's an important thing nonetheless...

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I haven't played Avernum 5 yet, since I don't own a Mac, but I think I can put a good guess on what it'll be about. B)

To me, Nethergate was "refreshing". Don't get me wrong, I love Avernum, but Nethergate was a completely new game with the same exploration/battle engine that I love. Instead of playing as pale exiles from the surface, I was able to play as frenzied barbarians who quirkily refused to wear armor, as "Celts don't wear armor!", or I could play as disciplined soldiers who had the finest military training in the land.

Overall, though, I'd have to say Avernum. While Nethergate is a great game to play while waiting for the next installments, it's too short for my tastes. The plot isn't as long and twisted as Avernum's, and there aren't as many rare artifacts and goodies you can arm your party with.

I wish that Avernum would have woad, though.

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I never really enjoyed Nethergate: Resurrection at all, I eventually quit.

And Avernum 5 is the newest game in a series. Series tend to have long plots.
But just download both demos. They are free.

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Predictable.

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Originally written by Iffy:

Predictable.


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Originally written by Iffy:

Predictable.
Also predictable. :P

EDIT:fixed quote

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Originally written by LakiRa@:

quote:
Originally written by Jeran Korak:

Predictable.
Also predictable. :P

FYT :P

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Attempting to salvage thread...

If the engine/graphics make you prefer one over the other (and you'll have to try the demos to find out), then Geneforge 1-4 and A4 have an engine similar to A5, while Avernum 1-3 and BoA have an engine similar to the new Nethergate.

Dikiyoba.

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My Macintosh is too old to perform the computations necessary to play Avernum 5, but it certainly supports Nethergate. After playing the demo, all interest left me.

I'll try to avoid accusations of blasphemy, but it is of my opinion that Nethergate is the least enjoyable game Jeff Vogel has created as of this point in time.

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I came to the Nethergate party late (never played it until NG:R) but it's by far my favorite SW game. I have a BA in History so I found the setting and the attention to the mythology of the time fascinating. After that Avernum 2 is high on my list. But then the middle of trilogies tend to be the meatiest, most interesting parts.

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Sorry about making that quote piramid, I just couldn't resist.

I have actually not tried A1-3, but I have tried BoA and N:G. I personally was used to the G4 engine, so I found the BoA engine hard to get used to. I never finished the demos, but lately I have been tempted to retry.

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Originally written by The Ratt:

I have actually not tried A1-3, but I have tried BoA and N:G.
Nether: Gate? :confused:

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Originally written by Excalibur:

I'll try to avoid accusations of blasphemy, but it is of my opinion that Nethergate is the least enjoyable game Jeff Vogel has created as of this point in time.
Heretic.

As for finishing the demo of BoA: don't. Register, and then play TM scenarios.

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quote:
Originally written by Excalibur:

I'll try to avoid accusations of blasphemy, but it is of my opinion that Nethergate is the least enjoyable game Jeff Vogel has created as of this point in time.
You really ought to explain why.

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I felt the plot didn't engross me in the story, and I disliked the selection of disciplines as well as the interface.

However, I didn't dislike the game to the point of removing it from my hard drive. It rests with my other games.

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