Avernum 2 - 8.54 (9.7/5.5)
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Infiltrator
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written Saturday, March 4 2006 10:35
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E3 and A4 have rating topics. We've got to keep going. :P I thought it was a good game. Better than most BoA scenarios, and pretty fun. BoE beats it by a longshot, though. 8.0 EDIT: No no no no no, what was I thinking? [ Friday, February 16, 2007 10:57: Message edited by: BainIhrno ] -------------------- "Let us see what the new day brings." - Temas, Areni. Visit my realm! Rate My Scenarios! Fort Emerald Robbery The Nephils' Defense The Final Spire The Fifth Tower of Magi The Portal Posts: 626 | Registered: Monday, October 25 2004 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, March 4 2006 10:44
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It gets a 9.0 from me. I can justify giving it an 8.0 or 8.5 by how it's set up, and between the added quest log and Dark Waters I feel justified in giving it a round 9. Will this earn me the disgust of a significant portion of the Blades community? Probably. I still happen to enjoy A2 a lot. —Alorael, who thinks of A2 is the zenith of the mostly plotless but highly detailed and well designed wandering, questing, and slaughtering RPG subgenre. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, March 4 2006 14:33
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I'll top that and give it a 9.5. I don't care if that makes me a bad person, but A2 was the only Avernum that I ever managed to completely play through more than once... and I enjoyed each time as much as the last. It's just awesome, really... Ah, for the days when Vahnatai were more than walking plot accelerators... the token appearances before the ultimate confrontation in A3 just weren't any good. Bind Foe for the win! -------------------- Gamble with Gaea, and she eats your dice. I hate undead. I really, really, really, really hate undead. With a passion. Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Saturday, March 4 2006 15:27
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A2 has the good story of E2, and the interface niceties of Avernum. Unfortunately, a lot of those niceties interfere with the atmosphere, the single greatest thing about E2. If I hadn't played Exile 2 first I might rate it higher, but given that I did: 8.0. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, March 4 2006 15:36
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I'm going to take heat over this, but I actually liked A3 better than A2 and A1, unlike in the Exile series. 8.6. -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, March 4 2006 15:49
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8.8 The atmosphere suffered severely for the new perspective. Exile 2 made me truly claustrophobic for stretches, the acid wit was toned down a little (by that point Jeff was on a family-friendly kick), and I recall a Survivor reference. Blech. Whatever happened to the Jeff Vogel that wrote Exile 2, I miss him. Posts: 794 | Registered: Tuesday, October 11 2005 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, March 4 2006 15:54
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A2 gets a nice, shiny, 9.6 rating. The E2 story and the Avernum interface make it perfect for me. By far my favourite Spiderweb game. Posts: 776 | Registered: Friday, July 4 2003 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Saturday, March 4 2006 16:03
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Where is the A3 topic? There's an E2, E3 and an A2 and A4 topic, but I don't see the A3 topic anywhere. Also, what about E1/A1? -------------------- Apparently still annoying. Posts: 612 | Registered: Saturday, October 13 2001 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Saturday, March 4 2006 17:00
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It has a good beginning, a great "mid-beginning," and then slowly devolves... But it's still never as bad as, say, A3. 8.5 -------------------- * Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Councilor
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written Saturday, March 4 2006 18:04
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A good, solid 9.0 for A2, the only one I registered. I loved the vahnatai bandit fort, probably the best dungeon of the whole game. Dikiyoba. Edit: Vahnatai is not a proper noun. [ Saturday, March 04, 2006 18:09: Message edited by: Dikiyoba ] Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Sunday, March 5 2006 02:28
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9.7 I love this game. I'm probably biased, because it's the first Spiderweb game I ever played, but it's amazing. It's not just "attack the nephil fort" it's "defend against their attack and recover a secret map that enables you to use a back way in". The vahnahti and the journey down to their realms is just amazing. The only bad thing, I felt, was that Garzahd was never really fleshed out as an enemy. He's just something I have to kill. And all the little touches that make Avernum Avernum: sudden attacks by fungi, seeing Khoth in chains, the muchrooms one that one place that kill you if you eat them... -------------------- But I don't want to ride the elevator. Posts: 420 | Registered: Sunday, January 8 2006 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Sunday, March 5 2006 02:34
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A2 gest a good 9.2. There were some moments when it got a bit boring, but overall it's a great game. Better than A3. -------------------- How many shapers are there? Why is Drypeak controlled by Zakary? Why is Barzahl a Guardian? How does the Geneforge work? What's as small as nothing? Why am I asking stupid questions? -------------------------------- Shaper teacher : "DON'T TOUCH THAT!" BOOM!! apprentice :*little voice* "Sorry..." --------------------------- CSM RIFQ Neopets Do join, it's fun. Do you know what is the answer to the greatest question ever? It's here. Posts: 576 | Registered: Wednesday, March 2 2005 08:00 |
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BANNED
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written Sunday, March 5 2006 02:37
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I have to admit, A2 is a classic. A fair 8 out of 10, I'd say. Posts: 275 | Registered: Sunday, January 8 2006 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Sunday, March 5 2006 04:32
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It's just not as fun as Exile II. It lacks the atmosphere of Exile II, it lacks the immersiveness, it lacks the good graphics. The story is the same, and for that it's still an 8. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy Encyclopedia Ermariana - Trapped in the Closet ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, March 5 2006 05:49
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I'll give it a 9. It's the best of the series. Lots to do although I thought the Vahnatai and Erika's tests were better in Exile 2. The Dark Passage could have used a new ruin to make it different. Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, March 5 2006 13:52
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In my opinion, not quite as good as its Exile counterpart but close. I don't like Avernum graphics (as much as Exile graphics). The loot that the monsters drop is too monotonous and number of spells too small. The story and the quests are best parts. 8.5 Posts: 259 | Registered: Saturday, June 1 2002 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, March 5 2006 17:45
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quote:I think you mean Sulfras, not Khoth. Khoth does not have an appearance in A2 unfortunately. He was my favorite of the dragons too. -------------------- "You're drinking liquor because you're thirsty? How nasty is your freaking water?" —Lazarus Spiderweb Chat Room Avernum RP • Summaries • OoC • Roster Shadow Vale - My site, home of the Spiderweb Chat Database, BoA Scenario Database, & the A1 Quest List, among other things. Posts: 1556 | Registered: Sunday, November 20 2005 08:00 |
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Councilor
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written Sunday, March 5 2006 19:41
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He does make an appearance without physically being present. Some text mentions seeing him surrounded by Empire soldiers in a fort that your adventurers can't reach. Dikiyoba. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Sunday, March 12 2006 00:05
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5.5 - Exile 2's score with -1 for the diminished play value (neutering magic, etc.), -0.5 for the inferior graphics, and another -0.5 for the fact it's a cynical remake of a good game. -------------------- http://desperance.net Posts: 35 | Registered: Friday, March 3 2006 08:00 |
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The Establishment
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written Monday, March 13 2006 11:18
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8.0 -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Friday, February 16 2007 09:42
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*pulls out from a huge pile of stuff* -------------------- "Let us see what the new day brings." - Temas, Areni. Visit my realm! Rate My Scenarios! Fort Emerald Robbery The Nephils' Defense The Final Spire The Fifth Tower of Magi The Portal Posts: 626 | Registered: Monday, October 25 2004 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Friday, February 16 2007 09:54
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7.5 I couldn't really play the game because I found the engine too annoying. [ Friday, February 16, 2007 09:55: Message edited by: Kyrek ] Posts: 626 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00 |
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Councilor
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written Friday, February 16 2007 10:56
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Why in the world are you rating a game you don't really like at a 7.5? (Then again, I may be the extreme one.) Anyway, I bump my rating up to a 9.5. I haven't played E2, so everything about it was fun and it got a lot of replay. It's definitely the best of the trilogy. The Empire War and the vahnatai made for an excellent plot. No complaints about the engine. I still like that heretic vahnatai fort, for some unknown reason. Also, I have recently (re)discovered the joy of Divine Warrior. Finally, it has nostalgic value. Dikiyoba. Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |