Life Expectancy
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, May 24 2005 21:29
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I recently read a news report claiming that the more you are on the internet/computer, the less your life expectancy is. So that got me thinking... [ Tuesday, May 24, 2005 21:29: Message edited by: Sprung Spring ] Poll Information This poll contains 2 question(s). 47 user(s) have voted. function launch_voter () { launch_window("http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=poll;d=vote;pollid=zGuBZhVPwBhp"); return true; } // end launch_voter function launch_viewer () { launch_window("http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=poll;d=view;pollid=zGuBZhVPwBhp"); return true; } // end launch_viewer function launch_window (url) { preview = window.open( url, "preview", "width=550,height=300,toolbar=no,location=no,directories=no,status,menubar=no,scrollbars,resizable,copyhistory=no" ); window.preview.focus(); return preview; } // end launch_window   -------------------- I'll put a Spring in your step. Polaris Posts: 2396 | Registered: Saturday, January 29 2005 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, May 24 2005 21:35
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I'm sure time spent planted in front of a monitor correlates strongly with sedentary, exercise-free lifestyle, which is a known cause (or lack of prevention) of all kinds of problems that can shorten your life. —Alorael, who would like to see this finding before commenting further. As you stated it, the correlation doesn't even have to be statistically significant, nor does it necessarily have any causal link. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, May 24 2005 23:15
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I think I sit over 50 hours at a PC per week. Around 25-30 hours of that at work alone, and presumably more at home. Oh, and my area's life expectancy was 79 for women and 72 for men, but I was born in Manhattan, where apparently the average is 73 (that's not split up according to gender). [ Tuesday, May 24, 2005 23:15: Message edited by: Arancaytar ] -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, May 24 2005 23:24
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I spend about 30 hours on the computer. About 3 hours a week at school, the rest at home. Also, my citys life expectancy is at 77.6 (men) and 81.2 (women), and the average for the area (south west) is 78.4 (men) and 81.9 (women). I only know this because it was in the newspaper yesterday. It also said that 10 years ago the average for women in my area was 83.7, and 80.3 for men. [ Tuesday, May 24, 2005 23:27: Message edited by: Spring, Sprung, its all the same ] -------------------- I'll put a Spring in your step. Polaris Posts: 2396 | Registered: Saturday, January 29 2005 08:00 |
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La Canaliste
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written Tuesday, May 24 2005 23:52
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The thing to remember about life expectancy is that it only samples people who are dead. It is the mean age at death of a particular group of people. In a generation that is all dead, you can calculate various different life expectancies. Life expectancy at birth will be rather low because it takes into account all those children who die very young. Life expectancy at say 15 will be higher, because all those who die of childhood diseases and childhood accidents will no longer be in the sample, and so on. Thus the research that produced this conclusion must have looked at a number of dead people, and related their age of death to the amount of time they spent at a computer. I would be interested to know how they asked the dead people how long they spent at the computer! They should, to be fair, have controlled for any other factors such as gender, smoking, drinking, ilnesses such as diabetes, asthma and heart disease. They should also have investigated whether factors that contributed to long computer hours also contributed to shorter life. For example: it is too dangerous to go outside therefore I communicate through the computer. A group of living people can only have an estimated life expectancy. -------------------- I am a pale shadow of the previous self. quote: Deep down, you know you should have voted for Alcritas! Posts: 387 | Registered: Tuesday, March 1 2005 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 02:46
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Wow, everyone but me chose 'More' for the hours on the computer. I don't understand that. [ Wednesday, May 25, 2005 02:46: Message edited by: The Stew Boy ] Posts: 587 | Registered: Tuesday, April 1 2003 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 03:35
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quote:... because all members of the sample who died below 15 will be taken out of the average. Take out the lower members, and the average rises - Mathematics! :P -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 03:38
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Why did you feel that you needed to clarify this? Saunders dealt with it. I notice you just posted like 8 posts in a few minutes. Anxious to get 3k are we? EDIT: Make that 9 posts. [ Wednesday, May 25, 2005 03:39: Message edited by: An Upright stranger ] -------------------- I'm tired of the strain and the pain ___ ___ ___ I feel the same, I feel nothing Nothing is important to me ___ ___ ___ ___ __ And nobody nowhere understands anything About me and all my dreams lost at sea ___ __ But we’re not the same, we’re different tonight We’ll make things right, we’ll feel it all tonight _ The indescribable moments of your life tonight The impossible is possible tonight ___ ____ ___ Believe in me as I believe in you, tonight Go All Blacks xtraMSN Rugby _ MuggleNet Posts: 1112 | Registered: Friday, July 19 2002 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 03:38
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quote:It's because like the income poll, it's scaled wrong. The week has seven days, and so if you spend three hours daily including the weekend, you are already off the scale. The scale should be upped at least to 42 or so, especially to include people who also use a computer at work. -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 04:07
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What are people worried about? Medical Science will fix us up. I have no idea what the expected age is around these here parts, but I do know it's going up. Meh, as long as I experience true love I can die happy. -------------------- "I am a living sign..." Thus endeth this post. Posts: 2864 | Registered: Monday, September 8 2003 07:00 |
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By Committee
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 04:41
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Work definitely puts me over the top, especially combined with the odd BoA scenario after work (don't know how I've been getting away with that lately!). I think the point made by Alo on exercise is key. I make an effort to run regularly in order to combat the dreaded force of office-butt. That, and switching to diet soft drinks (Yeehaw for Diet Coke made with Splenda!). The one thing that staring at a computer screen all day will definitely do is ruin your eyes much more quickly. Posts: 2242 | Registered: Saturday, April 10 2004 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 07:07
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Actually, Stranger, Saunders' post explained the biological explanation for rising life expectancy. Aran posted the mathematical explanation. Is there a point at which your estimated years left to live remains constant over several years? —Alorael, who is comforted by knowing that his life expectancy will always be longer than he has been alive. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Master
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 07:13
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I'm a Comp Sci student. You'd think that I would spend hours upon hours at the computer, working or not. -------------------- Polaris - Weather balloons, ninjas, and your big daddy Wise Man. What more could you want? Undead Theories - Don't Ask, Don't Tell Posts: 3323 | Registered: Thursday, April 25 2002 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 07:23
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quote:Some have jobs working on computers, some play SW games all day, some post here all day, and some (like me) take all day to write Avernum scripts and come post stuff when they need a break or get frustrated with the scripting. -------------------- Nena Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
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BANNED
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 10:42
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http://www.nmfn.com/tn/learnctr--lifeevents--longevity -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 10:50
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It says I'll live to be 94 :eek: -------------------- Nena Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 11:04
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quote:that is because we are nerds (no offense ment just... well its true -------------------- who knows what darkness lurks in the hearts of men? the shadow knows ninjas are so better than pirates homerun Posts: 85 | Registered: Tuesday, May 17 2005 07:00 |
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Skip to My Lou
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 13:30
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quote:86 for me. -------------------- Take the Personality Test! INTJ 100% 75% 100% 44% Huzzah for the Masterminds! www.Keirsey.com for personality information. The Sloganizer! "Swing your Archmage Alex." Deep down, you wish you were a stick figure. Posts: 1629 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 13:38
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No offense indeed only defense baby! -------------------- I stop rubber at 160km/h, five times a week. CANUCKS RESPEK! My Style The Knight Between Posts. Posts: 2395 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 13:45
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It was either 84 or 87 for me. I don't remember. But apparently I'm obese. -------------------- The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) Famous Last Words - A local pop-punk band They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Bob's Big Date
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 13:50
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I get a blank white box. How telling. -------------------- The biggest, the baddest, and the fattest. Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
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Master
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 14:12
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79 for me, though it doesn't ask computer time per week. I'm in the 10-20 zone, though I'd probably stay on it a lot longer had it not been for 2 little brothers to whom I have to delve out equal turns when they're done with their homework. I got interested, so I tried a kind of "best-cased" scenario and got an age of 100. A worst-cased male stoner got me a 23. That DWI really hurts. :P -------------------- -ben4808 For those who love to spam: CSM Forums RIFQ Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 21:12
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Accommodating to the test, my life expectancy is 88. Posts: 356 | Registered: Tuesday, April 6 2004 07:00 |
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For Carnage, Apply Within
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 21:45
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Alec: Try turning off popup blocking. Apparently, I'm going to die at 67. The heroin must be catching up to me. Posts: 567 | Registered: Friday, October 5 2001 07:00 |
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La Canaliste
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written Wednesday, May 25 2005 23:37
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*sigh* as both Aran and I tried to point out, life expectancy doesn't have a lot to do with expected age of death. It's purely retrospective, and you also have to include the age from which it is calculated. -------------------- I am a pale shadow of the previous self. quote: Deep down, you know you should have voted for Alcritas! Posts: 387 | Registered: Tuesday, March 1 2005 08:00 |
