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Shock Trooper
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im wondering: what do you concider yourself? and are you offended by people using slang terms for homosexuals as insults? i can't mention any bc I risk getting banned just postign dictionary deffenitions. (for the unnkowing newbies, it has happened and almost threw us into Civil War)

editL typo check

[ Monday, March 21, 2005 16:18: Message edited by: High Lord Sylak ]

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Being straight myself, I find it hard to determine whether or not slang terms are offensive. I would imagine that they would be to a degree, but then again I've never been one to take offense to words.

So quit this gay stuff, flamer. This whole topic is so queer.

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Law Bringer
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I find homophobic slurs, explicit or implicit, offensive. Words both express and shape the way we think, and I for one do not like that way of thinking. I'm heterosexual, for the record, but that doesn't mean I don't care. I've had the slurs applicable to me thrown around enough, jokingly and seriously, to be sensitive to others'.

That said, there is such a think as over-sensitivity. The events around April '02 on Spiderweb were a perfect example of that. There is a right way to respond to slurs and a wrong way, and shock and awe usually isn't the right way.

—Alorael, who finds the edit highly amusing. He'll leave it to you to discern why.
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Shaper
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Im straight though lez action is cool. Oh and I say things are gay all the time. It isn't even about gay people anymore. For example having a final exam moved to another day at the last minute would be gay. Personally I could care less about who's homosexual metero trans Bi hetero or not.

[ Monday, March 21, 2005 19:06: Message edited by: VCH ]

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Heterosexual/Nay

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^ :P
Also not bothered by words, Heterosexual/Nay

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I prefer the women and I'm planning a career out of the slurs.

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I am straight and am all to happy for all these gay jokes to happen. I use them myself. Just wondering, out of the four that put down homosexual, how many of them were female?

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quote:
Originally written by I am Jesus the smooth criminal:

I am straight and am all to happy for all these gay jokes to happen. I use them myself. Just wondering, out of the four that put down homosexual, how many of them were female?
I know what's going through your head, so be advised that even if you do manage to set two of them up with each other, they're not going to show you any pictures afterwards.

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I don't care about photos, and I am not attempting to hook them up, I was just curious.

My real strange way of explaining my orientation: I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body. Some random crap I made up on the spot a few weeks ago.

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So basically you're a guy with a greater than normal fondness for wearable marital aids?

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Depends on the terms used, and the tone. Words are vessels; they mean what you make them mean.

That said, the less well the person saying it and the person hearing it know each other, and the less channels of communication they are using, the greater is the risk of it being understood in another way than the person saying it was using the term.

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Shaper
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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

quote:
Originally written by I am Jesus the smooth criminal:

I am straight and am all to happy for all these gay jokes to happen. I use them myself. Just wondering, out of the four that put down homosexual, how many of them were female?
I know what's going through your head, so be advised that even if you do manage to set two of them up with each other, they're not going to show you any pictures afterwards.

I doubt he would need pictures. He's probably already there.

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Nena
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quote:
Originally written by I am Jesus the smooth criminal:

I don't care about photos, and I am not attempting to hook them up, I was just curious.

My real strange way of explaining my orientation: I am a lesbian trapped in a mans body. Some random crap I made up on the spot a few weeks ago.

Allow me to assure you that as a man you are in no way shape or form a lesbian. There's a lot more to it than liking girls. ;)

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I, too, find the edit highly amusing.

Homosexual/Aye.

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there's also more to love than just homo or heterosexual love? What about animal love? How come no one makes derrogatory slurs about how i love my hamster inappropriately?

nay, i say!
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None of the above/Aye

I deal with people on a case by case basis, I don't make judgements on gender.

Well, let me put it this way, I guess. If someone says something that is meant to be non-offensive, no matter how it is phrased, then it should be taken that way.

If however, someone says something that is meant to be offensive and uses homosexual terms to do so, then that is not only offensive, but is displaying great quantities of ignorance.

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Heterosexual/Nay.

But I'd never really fault a homosexual for being offended by slurs. I'm rather insensitive to insults as a rule, and as such am not bothered by the rare person that'll address me as "dot-head" or whatever else. I've been guilty at times of expecting all others to be just as invulnerable to words, and judging those that are quick to offense as hotheads, but nowadays I feel that a little understanding for the feelings of others would not be remiss.

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Shaper
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quote:
Originally written by Fringy MacGee:

there's also more to love than just homo or heterosexual love? What about animal love? How come no one makes derrogatory slurs about how i love my hamster inappropriately?

nay, i say!

You love your hamster inappropriately? :P

Sorry I couldn't resist, I know you didn't mean it that way

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Nena
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Heterosexual/Aye

Words are words, but people using words in an arrogant or ignorant way(like someone calling a card game they are unfamiliar and uninterested in gay. I have to put up with that very often :mad: )is what makes me angry. I feel like getting a flamethrower, burning them, and then spreading their ashes in the wind. But that's the crazy part speaking (It would still be satisfying).

It's not the insult itself, but the associating of difference with bad.

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quote:
Originally written by Missing in Alorael:


That said, there is such a think as over-sensitivity. The events around April '02 on Spiderweb were a perfect example of that. There is a right way to respond to slurs and a wrong way, and shock and awe usually isn't the right way.

—Alorael, who finds the edit highly amusing. He'll leave it to you to discern why.

Oversensitivity is right, however, ther dose ocme a point wheres its very annoying.
And thanks for pointing that out... thats really funny that i did that :P

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quote:
Originally written by Dolphin:

quote:
Originally written by Fringy MacGee:

there's also more to love than just homo or heterosexual love? What about animal love? How come no one makes derrogatory slurs about how i love my hamster inappropriately?

nay, i say!

You love your hamster inappropriately? :P

Sorry I couldn't resist, I know you didn't mean it that way

What other way could I have meant it?

- Fringy, who thought he clearly stated that he has sex with his hamster (that is to say, if he heven had a hamster)
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heterosexual/aye.

When it's truely used as an insult, yes. It has nothing to do with offending individuals. It's probably in your bests interests not to offend the folks around you, but that's up to you. It has to do with making the equation "homosexual=negative" widespread, common, accepted, etc. (There's a wide range that the "negative" in there means.) Especially without many people people being aware of this equation, even as they promote it and deny they promote it.

That being said there are many people who use slang for homosexuals (that are often insults) ironically, use a parody of it, or otherwise commicate it in a way that isn't this equation. That, I have no problem with.

[ Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:41: Message edited by: Demented Munster ]

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