O.K...("?")...
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Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, February 13 2005 09:40
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If anyone is able to tell me exactly what O.K. means then I would really enjoy that. I've been curious about that for a bit...any takers? O.K...and no...I don't mean oklahoma... -------------------- ...well I thought it was funney...? didn't you? Posts: 296 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, February 13 2005 09:51
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definition o.k. Just an informal shortening of the word okay. -------------------- Wasting your time and mine looking for a good laugh. Star Bright, Star Light, Oh I Wish I May, I Wish Might, Wish For One Star Tonight. Posts: 1084 | Registered: Thursday, November 7 2002 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Sunday, February 13 2005 10:03
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Supposedly it means Old Kinderhook, which is a town/city around where I live. Some political figure used it a lot, and simply came to be known as meaning Affirmative, or Fine. Suprisingly, every (Or almost every) language uses OK. Its the only word/phrase I know of that really crosses the linguistic barrier. Posts: 38 | Registered: Thursday, March 4 2004 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, February 13 2005 10:03
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o.k. = oll korrekt. There was a strange fashion around 1830 in America to use abbreviations of false written terms. So they used o.(ll) k.(orrekt) instead of all correct, k.(now) y.(use) instead of no use. And o.k. was the only one that survived until today. Says linguist Allen Walker Read. -------------------- ^ö^ vegetarians are sexy. Posts: 1420 | Registered: Wednesday, October 2 2002 07:00 |
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Bob's Big Date
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written Sunday, February 13 2005 10:27
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There was a huge acronym fad up to and during the Jackson administration, and while 'Oll Korrect' might be apocryphal (in fact, it almost certainly is), O.K. stuck. It's useful inasmuch as few languages have a word which properly conveys the context in which it's used; acknowledgement without agreement. Alternatives, such as 'yes' in English or 'd'accord' in French, apply not only knowledge of the situation but agreement with what's going on. O.K. just says you've got it. This is why it's so versatile and it's spread so very far. Plus it's a relatively neat word. -------------------- The biggest, the baddest, and the fattest. Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, February 13 2005 11:03
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O.k. or Okay, when used in a good tone of voice: Alright, Okay, Fine, Thats good, Correct, Affirmative, I am affirming that statement Okay when used by an angry female: I'm going to rip your viscera out and feed it to you. This is your queue to start running. Okay when used by an angry male: Okay, you've pissed me off, lets have at it. Hope that clears it up ;) Posts: 125 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Sunday, February 13 2005 15:02
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quote:"Okay" seems to be missing from those sentences. -------------------- The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) Famous Last Words - A local pop-punk band They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, February 13 2005 15:11
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I think that's because the only word that seems to be lodged in the males brain whenever a female gives any sort of statment, comment, direction, command, question, etc...or even if they're just talking is... "ok" Kinda sad, no:P But hey, who can blame us? -------------------- ...well I thought it was funney...? didn't you? Posts: 296 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, February 13 2005 16:13
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According to Merriam-Webster, "Oll Korrect" is the rather odd etymology of the word. I stand by my claim that English ranks up there among the world's stupidest languages. —Alorael, who would say that "acknowledged" could cover must of the uses of okay. Acknowledged, however, is a large and cumbersome word and tends to be used only in official circumstances. Okay is a much more user-friendly word that can be turned into such phrases as "okey-dokey." Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Sunday, February 13 2005 17:22
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O.K. Though it is an actual word in my opinion is giving way to aight. Which of couse means the same thing but in a cooler way aight. Or how about using aii. :D -------------------- I stop rubber at 160km/h, five times a week. CANUCKS RESPEK! My Style The Knight Between Posts. Posts: 2395 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Monday, February 14 2005 04:33
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I remember reading from somewhere on the internet that OK started as a misreading of an order signed or written by Andrew Jackson while he was president. He wrote OR for "order received," but due to his notoriously bad fast handwriting, he made the two letters look like "OK." I suppose people then thought it meant "all correct" (Oll Korrect), which would have made some sense in that context -- the orders are all correct, or something. By word of mouth, the phrase spread until a newspaper first put it into print and parenthetically explained this new acronym as "all correct." -------------------- What do I put here? -Garrison Posts: 1415 | Registered: Thursday, March 27 2003 08:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Monday, February 14 2005 04:42
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I've heard it originally came from a quality certification symbol that was printed on crates of US Army supplies. Given the number of colloquial English words and phrases that started out as army slang, this at least passes the plausibility test. -------------------- My BoE Page Bandwagons are fun! Roots Hunted! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Monday, February 14 2005 07:58
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Here's what the Straight Dope has to say about it: www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_250 The right answer has already been posted (Oll Korrect), so giving alternate answers is pointless. So if you heard somewhere from someone of questionable authority that it really meant something else, that's fine, but it's wrong and a waste of time. Posts: 62 | Registered: Thursday, January 20 2005 08:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Monday, February 14 2005 15:06
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Just because you know a lot, doesn't mean you have to be a prick about it. -------------------- My BoE Page Bandwagons are fun! Roots Hunted! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, February 15 2005 06:13
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Ahh yes...a newbee...those bountless stored of knowledge that never seem to exaust themselves...well, not until someone comes along and stomps upon their little beacon of light and turns it into a smoldering heap of confusion... Friend, absolute's do not exist in out world today. You assumptions that THAT is correct and that THAT is never wrong are far...far from reality...for what is reality? But relative to the person that's viewing it imediatley...who can say what is real? It all depends on exactly where you're standing, alright? So, You may be right, you may be wrong. But do not say that you have the absolute truth...I've never known that to be true...SO don't be pretenchious...thanks:) -------------------- ...well I thought it was funney...? didn't you? Posts: 296 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, February 15 2005 10:13
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I'm sorry, but if you believe there are no right answers than you might as well not be asking questions, because you can just come up with whatever nonsense you think up. If you want to live that way that's fine, but you shouldn't be proud of your ignorance. It sounds more like you just need to grow up, so maybe there's help for you yet. Posts: 62 | Registered: Thursday, January 20 2005 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, February 15 2005 11:04
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Heh, as I sit here chuckling in my own mirth I have to wonder how old you are, friend? But to the real issue at hand, You ask a question to learn a persons definition of what the answer is. Be that definition from study, experimentation, or their own imagination. The truth is out there, yes, I’m not denying that. But the truth is also shaded by so many colors that it’s not really likely that you’ll find, as you said, the exact answer to that question. You want an example, and take into mind that this example doesn’t take into consideration the problem of a question actually using thought or any such thing… What time is it?... Well, depends on what watch, battery, time zone, digital/analog, angle that you look at the watch, watch’s correctness in accordance to the “actual” time, that “actual” time’s accordance with what time it actually is…ya see, everything has it’s own color. That’s what makes life as diverse as it is. If there were only truth, then what fun would there be? Life is made up of the little quirks and surprises made by the variety of the truth. A world of absolute right and wrong would be quite a drab place indeed. And I’m sure that we can all appreciate what help it is when your version of the truth (no mommy I did not take that cookie) takes precedence over what actually happened (mommy, I ate the hell out of it). So if you choose to live in exact accordance with the laws of right and wrong, then be my guest. I personally prefer the slightly purple hue to my life, thank you very much… btw, try not to be so pissy or the topic'll be locked for flameing, I'm actually enjoying myself... [ Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:34: Message edited by: mung ] -------------------- ...well I thought it was funney...? didn't you? Posts: 296 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, February 15 2005 12:21
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Whether or not they are recognized as the proper etymology of the word by the linguists who are paid to figure these things out, alternative possible sources of words can be interesting. For one thing, back etymologies can happen. For another, with a popular term like okay, it's quite possible that it appeared in several forms almost simultaneously. While one might be the real original, others are interesting too. —Alorael, who will put it this way. The etymology is that the word came from an abbreviation of Oll Korrekt. The history is that there was a fad for such things during the Jackson administration. It may even have originated from a misread "OR" from Jackson, which then spread like wildfire. And it's quite possible it first became popular on army supplies. Instead of stating one truth, this topic has shown several, some more proven than others. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, February 16 2005 01:52
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I think it's got Latin roots, though. Who knows, maybe the guy who came up with "K7" was just making a pun? :D -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Wednesday, February 16 2005 04:52
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http://www.straightdope.com/faq/officialfaq.html I think this DreamGuy is joshing. He's not particularly subtle or talented at doing so, but nevertheless. Really, though- When he goes on about "respectable sources" and then links to straightdope.com, that doesn't resemble parody at all to you? -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Saturday, February 19 2005 22:47
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I found this which seemed okay. This one also seemed okay, as it gave a whole list of possibilities, some already discussed here, some not. Just being redundant, but here is another one. I saw no mention for the Spanish usage of it. So I started thinking about what it could mean, after all, you ain't going to tell me that we proud macho Spanish speakers are going to borrow something from some gringo, some African or some Indian (or, perish the thought, some French!) Okay, so after much pondering and thinking I had to go to the bathroom, and as usual the inspiration took place there (I'm not only talking from a Spanish speaking point of view, but Latin American too, which made the place of inspiration more apropos) So, this is what I think it stands for: Once Kiloergios, which makes a lot of sense. Okay, bye. -------------------- quote:Random Jack Vance Quote Manual Generator Apparatus (Cugel's Saga) Posts: 604 | Registered: Sunday, June 20 2004 07:00 |