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Apprentice
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written Saturday, February 21 2004 16:59
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Similar case for me. Except I flirt with them outrageously, but don't have the courage to ask them out. -------------------- The small african nation of Chad has changed it's name to Debbie, and in the spirit of Third World solidarity, Tanzania has changed its name to Brian. This just in: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead... Posts: 9 | Registered: Tuesday, February 17 2004 08:00 |
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written Saturday, February 21 2004 17:06
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I'm in with the fundies on this one. Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, February 21 2004 17:09
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I stand on similar ground with that topic as well. [ Saturday, February 21, 2004 17:09: Message edited by: Syntyrael ] -------------------- There is no knowledge that is not power. Take a chance at the Chance Forums! Posts: 323 | Registered: Thursday, December 18 2003 08:00 |
Agent
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written Saturday, February 21 2004 20:21
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quote:They do it, believe me. I hardly remember all the silly things, I did for the sake of my organs ... uh, we are as foolish a guys, sometimes. Dareva, you are f, no? About boys in skirts: It has becom a fashion, indeed. At least here in Europe metropoles. Last hot summer, I saw several boys wearing skirts, looks cool and I like it. Industrialized men are bottled up in tight, embarrassing uniforms that squeezes - specially when sitting - reproductive organs and make them .. um, more nonproductive. Now some charitable fashion designers will free our poor boys from 200 years of industrial pants ... It's certainly nothing new. Maybe half of the male world population is commonly wearing a skirt or a dress. They call it djellaba, pareo, burnus, gandura, sarong, chiton, kimono, kente, hakama, sherwani, kilt, what ever. I don't believe, skirts could be hints to a spezial gender anymore. Shyness can be very attractive. (( /) PP LL I love shy poets in hakamas -------------------- site of the month: Do not trample down the earth on which you walk. Calculate your personal footprint. Posts: 1420 | Registered: Wednesday, October 2 2002 07:00 |
Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, February 21 2004 20:25
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quote:Indeed. You guys make me want to hug you. *hugs* -------------------- From many a wondrous grot and secret cell Unnumbered and enormous polypi Winnow with giant fins the slumbering green. Posts: 356 | Registered: Saturday, August 23 2003 07:00 |
Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, February 21 2004 20:52
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American society seems to have a myth that only the man should ask the woman out. Most guys don't seem to be aware of this 'rule', but girls seem to abide by it kinda faithfuly... -------------------- The many faces of Logalot -------------------- Polaris Roleplaying and Debating Board- 'Nuf said -------------------- Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Posts: 780 | Registered: Friday, February 1 2002 08:00 |
Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, February 22 2004 04:45
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quote:Doesn't this "myth" somehow go together with quote:The one who asks puts himself into a vulnerable position - that of possibly being rejected, i.e. he renounces dominance and shows some modesty. Is this not what Sir David said about RP-partners quote:Compare this to the amount of self-control suggested by Bladesman Wasazore's quote (my personal apologies for quoting this in a different context) quote:the idea of "love" signalled in the "I'm A Whore "'s (my personal apologies for quoting this in a different context) quote:I mean I do understand prem's quote:but this is probably meant to occur quote:and not at the end of an evening out when Bladesman Wasazore's advice quoted above (my personal apologies for quoting this in a different context) may be more appropiate - please correct me if I am wrong. (Although the limited selfcontrol at the right moment may be attractive too... It is like prem wrote quote:P.S. I am not brave enough to mention a certain desperado community in this context and even less quote any remarks about pedophelia for fear of burly mexicans to say nothing of the sniping... [ Sunday, February 22, 2004 05:02: Message edited by: Your Fellow Procrastinator ] -------------------- Wisdom grows from trying to find structure in our experience - looking backwards in time - while living goes forward. Theories are expectations that help us live forward - like possible ways to put the mosaic together. If they are worth the effort to remember, they should predict something and in case the prediction does not work out with time they should autodestruct. And then there is something that we cannot test - something we have inherited in form of customs, attitudes, culture and the spirit of stories told and retold - that is like our individual SQUARE ONE. This runs deeper than we can know. Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00 |
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written Sunday, February 22 2004 14:34
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Where have you been all my life, YFP? -------------------- I believe there are 15 747 724 136 275 002 577 105 653 961 181 555 468 044 717 914 527 116 709 366 231 425 076 185 631 031 296 protons in the universe, and the same number of electrons. -- Sir Arthur Eddington Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
Infiltrator
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written Sunday, February 22 2004 14:40
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Yes, spy.there, I am female. So I have a question that doesn't seem as off-topic as it did a few days ago. Shy guys, you would like the object of your interest to ask you out, wouldn't you? Providing that subtle hints about certain of her body parts haven't given her the idea already, for those of you who might do that. This is urgent--I need more viewpoints so that I can do nothing yet again. -------------------- But I have never known or heard of anyone in real life who has said, "Yes! My goal in life is to be a brainless follower of obnoxious people!" Posts: 437 | Registered: Sunday, July 13 2003 07:00 |
Agent
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written Sunday, February 22 2004 16:38
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quote: quote: quote:Shy guys, what's the problem? Nothing worse could happen to you but a rejection. If I would be shy, I'd take it like a RPG. If rejected, it would be only my PC who failed. I could improve my skills (good manners, modesty, compassion) ...and try again. Chins up, shy guys, we can be impressed so easy. By compliments for example or by love letters. You got the writing ability and a lot of poetry skill - why don't you use words power? Dareva, are they shy or only lazy? Passiveness is of course more comfortable ... )) ) (()) im shy, too shy -------------------- site of the month: Do not trample down the earth on which you walk. Calculate your personal footprint. Posts: 1420 | Registered: Wednesday, October 2 2002 07:00 |
Infiltrator
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written Sunday, February 22 2004 17:27
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I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, spy.there, as I find asking someone out to be horribly difficult myself. Probably the reason for the current situation. Approaching it like an RPG is a good idea, I guess, except if that were true, I'd probably give the rejector a good shot of Searer for their temerity. Hmm, I think I've just discovered why I'm single. -------------------- But I have never known or heard of anyone in real life who has said, "Yes! My goal in life is to be a brainless follower of obnoxious people!" Posts: 437 | Registered: Sunday, July 13 2003 07:00 |
Fire! Fire! Fire! Fire!
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written Sunday, February 22 2004 18:20
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Spy, I do use my writing skills for that purpose, but that's more out of shyness than anything. Thinking of myself as an RP character would work if life were an RP, which it is not. I have to live with myself for my whole life; it's not going to end and give me a chance for a whole new character (I'm not talkign about reincarnation, by the way...). Also, I know that I risk nothing more than rejection, but that's a lot, to me. I know it shouldn't be, but it is. I tend to preach moderation in most things; love included, I guess. Maybe that's my real problem, not shyness. I wait too long, for the perfect situation or whatever, and by then it's too late. -------------------- And though the musicians would die, the music would live on in the imaginations of all who heard it. -The Last Pendragon TEH CONSPIRACY IZ ALL Les forum de la chance. Incaseofemergency,breakglass. Posts: 3351 | Registered: Saturday, April 6 2002 08:00 |
Infiltrator
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written Sunday, February 22 2004 18:24
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I'm shy around the opposite sex. For a different reason.. --Jonnie Zahndi Zolohahni -------------------- Professor Frost gives me ideas. Professor Frost has many an eye. Professor Frost always foils my plans. Posts: 549 | Registered: Thursday, October 17 2002 07:00 |
Infiltrator
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written Sunday, February 22 2004 18:37
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quote:This is a lot like me. But I also have been known to joke that the worst thing that could happen is that the askee says yes. After all, I'm prepared for rejection. Acceptance is an eventuality that has not been provided for. -------------------- But I have never known or heard of anyone in real life who has said, "Yes! My goal in life is to be a brainless follower of obnoxious people!" Posts: 437 | Registered: Sunday, July 13 2003 07:00 |
Bob's Big Date
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written Sunday, February 22 2004 21:31
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I completely lack spiritual commodity with the human race. I'm not just saying that, either; I was raised in general isolation at around the age people usually develop the ability to form and keep social relations and I was an antisocial person to begin with. I'm not saying I have trouble making nice with people, but genuine, lasting friendship is a big challenge, and not something I'd count on from anyone. I've really struggled to get halfway towards what most people consider as natural as breathing. I tried hanging around with people with the same problem, but quite frankly, the majority of them are ill-adjusted, dimwitted malcontents with whom I have even less relationship on a human level than anyone else. Physical isolation throws a wrench in any real attempts to unfsck my social dynamic. I've got physical and mental self-image problems, a bad stammer, and radical viewpoints on just about everything. Most people assume I'm a stuck-up prick, and because I have an extremely caustic sense of humor, they have pretty good grounds to assume such, even though my problem is shyness more than anything. I've grown faintly certain that the people who matter to me in a sexual context (hey, I try to be realistic) think I'm gay. The fact that my humor tends to be faintly self-aspersing doesn't help, either. To top it all off, I'm almost entirely isolated from the rest of my social world, living many miles away from anyone I know well. So far, I've put my hopes in a fresh start in Seattle, but I know it's a pipe dream even if I manage to get anywhere there. Physical, spiritual, and mental isolation. But hey, I can sure pull a great yarn about squicking, can't I? -------------------- In a word, gay. --Bob the Impaler Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
Guardian
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written Monday, February 23 2004 08:38
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SD's statement largely applies for me, as well. I tend to be a highly cautious person in general; I don't gamble, don't take part in extreme sports, and have never committed a crime I wasn't absolutely sure I could get away with. Risk-taking strikes me as a highly reckless practice. For some reason, the idea of asking a girl out, without knowing that the feelings of attraction are mutual is extremely unattractive in my mind. Like SD, I prefer to keep things on a friendly level for a long time, hoping that eventually the girl will do something to convince me that she's interested. I used to be so shy around girls that I couldn't even address them by their first names, but nowadays I'm getting better and better at carrying on natural, unaffected conversations with them. However, I still find myself unable to ask a girl out without knowing, nearly for sure, that she'll accept. Part of it, clearly, is also due to pride- requesting a date figuratively abases the requester at the feet of the requestee, allowing the latter to (again, figuratively) ground the unlucky requester's face into the mud, if she so wishes. I wish I was as young as some of you chaps, though- you don't have to deal just yet with the ugly statistic that only 1 in 5 men in the U.S. are still virgins by the age of 19. With nearly all of my close friends having amazing success in this category, as well, I often can't help feeling like a hopeless loser. -------------------- "Let a man find himself, in distinction from others, on top of two wheels with a chain- at least in a poor country like Russia- and his vanity begins to swell out like his tires. In America it takes an automobile to produce this effect."- Leon Trotsky Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00 |
This Side Towards Enemy
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written Monday, February 23 2004 08:56
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Yes, the major problem with treating it like a computer game is that there's no reload function and dignity matters a lot to people. I'm not certain that's the right approach but it's certainly not a view that's completely without merit. Myself, I doubt I'd go down that road in most cases because it'd be too likely to damage a friendship. Then again, it's not really that much of an issue until I start taking more than a peremptory interest in my own appearance. -------------------- Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned I'll tell you my story, man Though I wish I'd never been born I'm loose at the seams, I've broken my dreams And my hand it shakes the pen Come on, come on now baby, Let the good times roll again Posts: 961 | Registered: Thursday, June 12 2003 07:00 |
Agent
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written Monday, February 23 2004 10:11
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Dareva, LOL Sir David, life is a RP. I could not endure it, when I wouldn't be abel to encrease abilities and try again. Rejections happen, are nothing personally, mistakes happen, show you, where your weak points are, where you should train, to have succes. If you want to have a date, you can get it. waiting until it's too late might say, that you don't really want one ...Dareva lol Full Frontal, you just changed your name, you are an antisocal stuck-up prick. Living many miles away from everything sounds like a dream to me. Nothing wrong by beeing gay, is it? To break isolation, go out more - should be easy to find a decent club in Seattle. Stug, you don't mean, that beeing over 19 and still virgin would be a problem for you? <falls from chair, shaked with laughter> sorry, um ... if it is a problem to you ... <laughter> sorry, if you are going only for sexual matches, why don't you for women above your age, who might been slightly more interessed in sex than girls at your age <sneers motherly> (( PP LL . feeling like advise office -------------------- site of the month: Do not trample down the earth on which you walk. Calculate your personal footprint. Posts: 1420 | Registered: Wednesday, October 2 2002 07:00 |
Warrior
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written Monday, February 23 2004 10:13
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quote:Said like rejection is all that a woman could do, and like it's not a bad thing. Said by another guy who can't express attraction, and would rather be asked out, but only by a woman who doesn't know that I have to be asked out (if she knows, then I am by definition asking her out, succeeding and refusing on the basis that it'd be pity instead of desire). -------------------- And that was exactly the point of itself. Takes advantage of the easily offended. Posts: 137 | Registered: Monday, November 17 2003 08:00 |
Bob's Big Date
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written Monday, February 23 2004 11:29
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[b] Full Frontal, you just changed your name, you are an antisocal stuck-up prick. Living many miles away from everything sounds like a dream to me.[/qb] No, not really. I don't need to physically escape from anything, and it makes the transit a lot easier. And as for the name-calling, thank you. Nothing wrong by beeing gay, is it? No, unless you're not and don't want people to assume things. To break isolation, go out more - should be easy to find a decent club in Seattle. I don't live in Seattle. I live in a depressed, sun-baked old neighborhood of Las Vegas. And as for finding a decent club, I'm not old enough to drink and don't have the inclination or the means to pick up people in bars. -------------------- In a word, gay. --Bob the Impaler Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
Senile Reptile
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written Monday, February 23 2004 11:41
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My greatest fear in asking someone out isn't rejection, but rather that whatever prior relationship there was could be very sorely ruined. I wouldn't be able to face a good friend if I'd asked her out and she said "no." The only girl I've ever asked out is someone I barely know, so when she told me she wasn't interested, I really lost nothing. Speaking only for myself, if a girl asked me out and I said "no," my opinion of her wouldn't change in the slightest. But I always get the feeling that a girl who rejects me would misinterperet any kindness I show as just trying to continue getting her to date me. -------------------- Polaris Posts: 1614 | Registered: Wednesday, January 23 2002 08:00 |
Infiltrator
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written Monday, February 23 2004 11:53
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Spy.there, I have a feeling you are looking at us from your lofty throne somewhere, secure in yourself, while people like me wander around and try to figure things out. -------------------- But I have never known or heard of anyone in real life who has said, "Yes! My goal in life is to be a brainless follower of obnoxious people!" Posts: 437 | Registered: Sunday, July 13 2003 07:00 |
Guardian
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written Monday, February 23 2004 12:31
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Spy.there, you have made some rather unfair extrapolations of my original statements. No, being a 19-year old virgin is not a problem for me. I'm reasonably happy the way I am, and I don't feel that mindless, loveless sex would cause me to be a happier or more satisfied person. Although it is true that I would prefer a sexual relationship to a chaste one at this point in my life, I am infinitely more interested in the idea of a dual exchange of love than an exchange of bodily fluids. A non-sexual, loving relationship would certainly be highly preferable to no relationship at all. But you simply can't blame a chap of my age for simply wanting to fulfill his biological imperative as soon as possible, albeit in a loving and reciprocating manner. As for needing to seek out older women in order to be involved in a sexual relationship, I don't believe that is necessary. Many, many girls of my age, even quite a bit younger, are interested in and take part in sexual relationships. And besides, I tend not to like older women. [ Monday, February 23, 2004 12:32: Message edited by: A Stughalfian Principle ] -------------------- "Let a man find himself, in distinction from others, on top of two wheels with a chain- at least in a poor country like Russia- and his vanity begins to swell out like his tires. In America it takes an automobile to produce this effect."- Leon Trotsky Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00 |
Lifecrafter
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written Monday, February 23 2004 12:37
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Yeah, if you ask someone out and they say no, it makes things pretty awkward. Only if you know them well though. Good point Motrax. -------------------- The many faces of Logalot -------------------- Polaris Roleplaying and Debating Board- 'Nuf said -------------------- Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Posts: 780 | Registered: Friday, February 1 2002 08:00 |
Guardian
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written Monday, February 23 2004 12:40
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quote:No, it's not. I've known childhood isolation too. It took years to overcome that, that's true. But in the end it didn't keep me from living my life as I wanted and needed to do. Friends and longterm mates included. -------------------- Polaris Posts: 1828 | Registered: Saturday, January 11 2003 08:00 |