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Originally written by Ash Lael:

Modern Christian music contains way more veriety than you give it credit for. Even Christian Rock alone contains way more variety than you give it credit for. As I Lay Dying as compared to Plumb, for example.

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Originally written by Zeviz:

Any attempt to draw a moral equivalence between the Palestinians, majority of whom voted for the party advocating complete destruction of Israel and the Israelis, majority of whom agreed to completely ban the party that advocated removal of all Palestinians, looks wrong to me.

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This is the statement that I cannot believe. I cannot believe that the Palestinians as a whole are morally inferior to the Israelis as a whole. The Palestinians may overall support more hard-line rhetoric, but they're in a more desperate situation, which almost invariably leads to more desperate attempts to get out of it.

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Originally written by Butt Paladin:

Where's the "Video Game Music" option?

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Originally written by The Worst Man Ever:

Why so indignant? Isn't that just what you've been proposing needs to be done to the 'Muslim theocracies'? If you're going to play by barbaric rules, don't turn around and get pissy if the other side is in the habit of the same.

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Originally written by radix malorum est cupiditas:

Also, if all that happened was that you sensed portals opening, how would you know it was demons.

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Okay, fine. The Rakshasi wouldn't know that it was demons... But considering the demonic energy-- that is, a symptom of portals going to or from hell...
All I'm saying is, the Rakshasi see this coming. Considering that you'd have a hard time actually surprising them like this anyway, all I'm doing is pre-emptively describing how the strategy is changing.

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Originally written by radix malorum est cupiditas:


Second, you stated an argument, he called it contradictory, you defended it, he rebutted your defense.

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I'm not seeing the contradiction. I see a sentence that I unnoticingly made contradictory in my second post ("I find it amusing that you think there is a contradiction blah blah blah"). My statement about the possibility of Israel only restructuring rather than dissolving its government could be taken as a call for Israel to reform rather than cease existing. But I would estimate the necessary restructuring to be so drastic that the state Israel as it is would cease to exist.

But that, if we look at these posts in chronological order, was after Zeviz told me I was making contradictory statements and so has no bearing. Someone will have to spell out the contradiction for me.

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Originally written by radix malorum est cupiditas:

What are you talking about. It nearly has. Yom Kippur war, six day war, etc.

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I'm not presuming to know more about Israel's history than a citizen of Israel, but didn't the Six Day War resulted in Israel gaining a lot of territory and defeating three countries in six days? Hardly "almost destroyed".

Even the Yom Kippur War ended with not all of the territory regained, and in fact helped diplomatic relations.

In any case, nothing like open war is going to happen now. Israel has proven that it is very hard to beat in armed conflicts, and has the backing of the U.S.

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Originally written by Lord Torso:

And if it was? Is there something I don't know? Have I broken the U.S.A.'s laws unknowingly? Are we so pro-Israeli now that we've passed laws against free speech and calls for reform? Someone please inform me what the problem is with stating my opinions in the hopes of an argument.

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Originally written by I Would Have Been Your Daddy:

What I'm arguing against is that doing anything else results in instant loss. Israel's lasted for quite a while, and it's not going under overnight.

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Originally written by Lord Torso:

I also don't know why Israel as a state is still allowed to exist.

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Originally written by $ v. #:

So, I asked you to convince me as to why, when you are surrounded, your only options are to "react" or to die. You made that comment in regards to Israel. You responded to my question by saying "I guess you've never been in a real fight before," comparing the situation around Israel to "a real fight" which I assumed referred to a personal brawl. I don't think the two situations are particularly analogous.

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Originally written by $ v. #:

Um, a country that is fighting with its neighbors is not the same situation as a fistfight. AT ALL.

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Originally written by $ v. #:

I'm open to being convinced, but you'd need to explain how "anything" else would lead to death...

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Originally written by I Would Have Been Your Daddy:

No one is going to out-of-the-blue destroy Israel. They might want to, sure, but the people at the top didn't get there by being insane enough to actually try.

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Originally written by My Spleen:

—Alorael, who thinks Thuryl's trolling serves a valuable purpose. Someone always needs to articulate why eating the babies is wrong.

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Originally written by Butt Paladin:

N. Vantanas. Scarmiglione is sitting on an outcropping overlooking a gigantic bonfire. Standing to his right is the "Doctor," monitoring all four of the portals. Then, ten Rakshasi teleport into being in front of Scar.

"State your business, soldiers," said Scarmiglione, expecting nothing more than a typical reconnaissance report.
"Sir! We regret to inform you that a demonic nexus is forming to the south of us!"
"Oh?"
"Demons," spat the Doctor. "They are of no threat to us. What brimstone can they hurl at us which we will not devour?"
"Nevermind that," said Scarmiglione. "We must still take their threat seriously."
"Very well, Red Star. But what do you propose?"
"I propose that we immediately send a group of magi to seal off the nexus before its formation."
"That sounds reasonable, Master."

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Originally written by radix malorum est cupiditas:

Any muslim theocracy is a potential enemy. I don't know how long western countries can deal with them, but in Israel there are no second chances (except amongst the idiots in charge). One threat and you become what the public views as the enemy.

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Originally written by radix malorum est cupiditas:

@TM: That's wrong. Either remove the Israel statement or reinsert the word muslim.

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So a Muslim theocracy is a potential enemy, but a Jewish theocracy is peachy-keen? :P

Seriously, I don't see the difference between a Muslim theocracy and any other kind. Christian theocracies, in their heyday, put a lot of people to the sword. Even the Buddhists are jackasses when they hold a state monopoly on truth.

Muslims aren't the enemy (in spite of your sterling efforts - thanks for pissing the entire Arab world off at the only Western country that had yet to do them specific wrong, Israel! Best friends forever.) . The enemy is wrath, the attitude that there are no second chances. An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind, and the US doesn't have the firepower to take the entire Earth. As much as we might seem to want to.

What do you think of Turkey, while I've got your ear? Can we trust them?

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Originally written by Mr.Bookworm:

My perfect hell would be being trapped in Homeland.

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