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written Friday, October 28 2005 19:12
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No, I haven't forgotten you unfortunately. ;) Some may wonder what happened to me... spammin' n00b one day, then gone the next. I blame work. I had like 3 weeks off in September, so I had plenty of free time, but now I only get a day or two (and not back to back, if it's two) a week, and those are mostly spent catching up on sleep. And I tend to not know when I'm working more than a day or two in advance... so... yeah, sucks, but that's life. I'll be back to rant n' rave n' bug you all when I get more free time. ;) Hope everyone's well. -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, October 12 2005 02:19
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quote:If my text implied that, I'm sorry, I didn't mean it to. I still equate life to life and death to death. As much as decisions made now may affect you after you die, I don't particularly believe that decisions made after your death will affect you past (meaning, in this case, present life). Time may be an illusion, but it's still one of the core aspects of terrestrial reality. Within the context of a mortal human life, our existence is mostly linear. Just because something isn't fundamentaly real doesn't mean it can't have a very real effect on you; that's the power of belief. Or as another example (if you'll forgive the geekyness of it), think of hardlight holograms in Star Trek, if you will, with the safety turned off. The holograms are constructs, man made, and arguably fake, yet they can still affect people (but this is a scientific effect as opposed to one born purely of belief, so it's far from a perfect example). This would be the bottom line: This manifestation (physical/material world) is illusion. Time is part of this manifestation, therefore also illusion. But within the context of this illusion (which is a sensual representation of the limit of the All which our present incarnations can comprehend/cope with), we still operate within the bounds of time and, thus, are not directly affected by choices made after our death. But... yeah... I'll stop. I already said it would get messy, and it did. -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
Politics and Beliefs in General | |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 18:25
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This -is- me being balanced. :( I've been worse. Yes, hard as that may be to imagine. But I'm the guest here, not the host. It's not my place to judge what's appropriate or not. ~bows~ I should probably cut down on my postings, anyways. ~looks at post count~ Ayup... -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
On Nov 1st, 2005.... in General | |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 18:20
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Which ones are we talking about? Never seen -any- star wars?!?! I didn't know such people existed in non-4th world countries! Not having seen Episode I, II & III is forgiveable, though. :P ... But anyways: "I'm definitely going to see it, but I'm not THAT excited." It's the closest. I'm definitely going to see it (haven't seen it yet), and I'm quite excited, but not enough for the first poll answer. I heard Episode III was on par with the first series. Hard to believe, but heartening, considering the last two were utter male cow's dung. -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 18:15
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quote:If that was to me, yes... yes you may... whichever of the two you prefer. Provided I get to keep the gold brick afterwards. :P -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 18:08
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Does so!! :P +flowers & chocolates anyways, because it means you read at least that far. ;) More than most, I'd venture to guess! -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 15:48
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quote:I can't answer that properly without writing a bigger post than you've ever seen. And I'm not prepared to do that. Even then, I'd probably fail. So instead, I'll just give a "short" explanation, which you won't understand and will disagree with. But that's life. And it'll no doubt be too big as it is. But hey, you asked for it. I'll write it as though it's fact. What I mean by this is that I won't add "I believe" or "I think" or "in my opinion" after every three words. That goes without saying; what follows is nothing more than a personal opinion. I don't expect anyone to believe me or agree. Warning: Many of you will call me crazy and/or a heretic after reading this. So if you think you might, please don't read. I don't want flames. I'll be stating some core, very personal beliefs of mine which might seem cold and heartless to some. ... Existence, as we know it, is illusion. We are beings of matter, mind, and spirit. Matter is... matter. The physical. You all know what matter is. I won't say more on that. Spirit is our link to the universal energies, what some call God, whatever name they may wish to give to this god. It is the Infinite. It is the All, the One. Mind is what happens when Matter (this particular, present incarnation of our beings) meets Spirit. Think of Matter as you and Spirit as the world. Mind is the horizon; the extent of the Infinite that our five basic senses in this incarnation can perceive and assimilate. On that thin line of horizon, consciousness lies. We perceive the world as disparate, as fragmented, as separate. This is a lie. An illusion brought about by the limitations of our abilities (finite) to perceive the totality of existence and the universe (infinite). A friend of mine once called it "the illusion of separation", and I very much like that term. It's simple, it's to the point, and it rhymes. ;) What we perceive to be this mortal existence as an entity which we call a "human being" (or homo sapiens sapiens) is a manifestation which we perceive to singular, individual. This is true as much as it is false. It is true because we perceive it to be true. It is false because the truth does not end there. I'd give you an example, but I can't think of one at the time. It's not an easy concept to define in a simple manner. This put aside, though, within the context of this individual/singular manifestation which we call "me" or "I", we have full and complete control over what happens to this manifestation. The key is belief. If you believed you could fly, you could. But I mean, TRULY believe. Don't go jumping out of a window, because you'll fall and die. Even if you managed to convince yourself consciously that you could fly, you couldn't. For the simple reason that the sort of belief I speak of is not conscious belief. It has to be believed at the very core of your being. This is how the placebo effect works. By the same token, every nanosecond of your existence, you're making choices. Not necessarily conscious choices, but choices nonetheless. These choices affect every aspect of your existence. You are what you believe. If you get cancer and die, you did that. If you get cancer and survive, you did that. If you win the lottery and live happily ever after, you did that. If you win the lottery then lose your ticket, you did that. For everything that happens in your life, you are responsible. "But what if someone runs me over?" you say. "It wasn't my fault, it was theirs!". You did that. "But what if I'm walking along a mountain path, and a rock randomly falls on my head, crushes my skull, and I die? That was completely random?". You did that. "I was walking along the street and found a 100$ bill. That was just luck. For me. And bad luck for whoever dropped it." You did that. "X person did Y thing, and because of that, Z thing happened to me! It was them! It wasn't me! I didn't do anything!" Whether the outcome is positive or negative, you did that. Or allowed it to happen. And that's what it boils down to. Deep down, in your heart of hearts, at the very core of what makes you You, you choose everything that happens to you. Or doesn't. Cause and effect. But taken to a level beyond the mundane, beyond the immediate. This is because you are the world, and the world is you. As much as you decide if you want to eat a pile of dog****, or don't want to eat it... as much as you decide if you want to eat a piece of yummy cake, or not want to eat it... as much as you decide if you feel like going to work tomorrow morning or not... as much as you decide all those things in your life which require conscious thought and action and don't appear to be related or influenced by external stimuli, so are all those other things affected... those things which do seem to need outside interference, whatever they may be. This is because, in the end, we are all One. Just different manifestations of this cosmic unity. This ties everything together. This gives cosmic accountability, whether we know it or not, whether we like it our not. In an immediate way, all we can do is influence ourselves. On an absolute level, anyways. To be influenced by others (or for others to influence us), we must choose to allow ourselves to be influenced. Sometimes to choose that means strength, sometimes to choose that means weakness. But they are, in the end, just personal choices. But in a more general way, that which ties us makes our every breath, our every act, our every thought meaningful. And no, I don't only limit what I'm saying to actions. Thoughts, by themselves, can be extremely powerful. We can all do anything we want to everyone... if they let us. That's why—at its basest level—only you can decide what happens to you. And that's why—at its basest level—each of our actions, each of our thoughts shapes who and what we are. From the tiniest and most meaningless to the most grandiose and meaningful. You can tie in a bit of the chaos theory into all this, if you'd like. The butterfly effect. But operating on an individual level. I don't pretend to know how it all works exactly (I'd rule the world, if I did), but your decision eight years ago on some given night to walk on one side of the street instead of the other might well play a deciding factor in what might happen to you tomorrow. This is because each step of the way in our lives, as we make a choice—however minute—we affect the future and how it can affect us. There's no such things as randomness. There's no such thing as chance. By this, I don't mean that there's a pre-fixed destiny; nothing is set in stone—everything is dynamic. But your life's course is decided by who and what you are, this starting from long before you were born and which will continue long after you are dead. Who and what you were decides who and what you are which decides who and what you will be. It's not fixed, because your existence is dynamic; thus, so is your destiny. Your destiny is yours to choose, but it is still fixed and written in regards to where you come from... which can always be affected by where you are. Now. This moment. This very instant, during which you are reading this line. This is where Truth is. This is where the One is. No, not in that line I just wrote... in this one! No! This one! Heh, no... just fooling with ya. ;) It has nothing to do with the line itself; it has everything to do with the moment you're in while reading the line. ... Think. Anything. ... That thought you just had. That was Truth. Whatever it was. Truth is infinite... the Infinite is the only Truth. For in it, that is where eternity lies. In every moment, we're constantly reinventing ourselves. Time, after all, is a human creation. A human invention. A human perception... or perhaps, I should say, misperception. ... I'm losing my train of thought, and I'm waxing far too philosophical. So I'll stop here. And go see my friends. And try to enjoy the moment. :D -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 13:33
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quote:I -am- mashing them together. And I -am- talking about something mystical. I could try to explain the hows and whys, but that would take a long time and probably not help much. I'm just sharing personal opinion. Giving my perspective on the topic, nothing more. By no means am I saying this is the absolute truth; I could be completely wrong. But this is what my life experiences up to this point have led me to believe. In a nutshell, I mash them together like this: Your actions have consequences (scientific) and one of these consequences is affecting who/what you are and what happens in your life (mystical). -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 12:33
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quote:That's why I said karma was a bad word. It's more like cause-and-effect. You make your own karma. All I'm implying is that our actions—the way we lead our lives—determines the direction our lives take. It's karma, in the sense that what goes around comes around. But it's also very base cause-and-effect. Which is primal and simple. And it works just as well with the metaphorical. ;) But if you're an atheist, I won't be able to convince you. So I won't try. quote:I'd still say you "earn" the bad things... they're just a lot easier to earn. :D -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
Halloween in General | |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 12:09
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Meh. Bah. Aran. Fine. Mr. A! Read the story! [ Tuesday, October 11, 2005 12:10: Message edited by: Muji ] -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 09:59
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Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to bump the thread. I'm serious... you gotta click on Atrus' link and read that story... :eek: -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
Politics and Beliefs in General | |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 09:55
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I doubt it would be much better otherwise... It's not just size that matter, it's what you do with it. ;) If I lumped it all together, sure, my posts would be physically smaller. But they're already pretty incoherent as it is most of the time. They'd become impossible to understand, and migraine-inducing (instead of only headache-inducing). ... Allow me to demonstrate. The following quote is my last post (arguably a small one) bunched up into a single paragraph: quote:How does that look? Smaller, yes. Much smaller. But as I said, that was a relatively short post to begin with. Imagine one of my longer ones, ranting about the perceived nature of reality, condensed like that... Would that be better? I could repeat the process with one of my longer, more "meaningful" posts, if you're not convinced. ;) I approach my posts from a nearly-artistic point of view. A space means as much as a word or character. Spaces and line-changes give rhythm. Which I use. It's not random. [ Tuesday, October 11, 2005 09:57: Message edited by: Muji ] -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 09:37
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quote:And what I'm saying is that... yes and no. Nothing escapes from karma. But hey, if you've brought it upon yourself, not much you can do but swallow the snake oil. ~shrugs~ Or another way of putting it, I guess: Yes, there are scammers etc. And they'll reap their own sowing in their own time. But how they affect you depends on what you do. You can get ripped off. It can happen. And the effects can range from mild annoyance to full-out rage/sadness/despair/pain/whatever. But in the end, you're still only reaping what you sow. Karm (or whatever else you want to call it... I hate labels. I know many of you will say "Wtf, karma, I don't believe in that ****", so I'm loathe to use the word, but I can't think of a better one right now. Sorry)--karma works both ways. It's like having a bank card with a credit limit. You can have some (karmic) savings, and you can have some (karmic) debt. If you get scammed by a scammer and you don't deserve it—or really, if anything happens to you that you didn't deserve—, that goes directly into your savings. On the other hand, maybe you got screwed by the scammer cuz you had debts that had to be paid off. And sometimes it works in strange ways. Like, you didn't need to get screwed by the scammer... maybe you had some good karma coming that could have cancelled the debt. But maybe that good karma had other things in store for you. I'll give you another example: It's as if your unconscious/subconscious had your bank/credit card. And sure, it could deposit your paycheck (new good karma, whatever) into your account and pay off your debts, but maybe it wants to buy you a 60" plasma screen TV instead. So it has to find another way of paying off your debts so that it can use your paycheck for something else. ... Am I making sense? I'm not asking if you agree with me or not; that's entirely up to you. But do you ("you" as in, anybody who's reading this and vaguely cares) understand what I'm saying? Cuz I'm having a hard time explaining it, and I feel as though I'm really losing my thread of explanation. :( -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 08:31
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quote:It may not be unusual, but what I'm saying is that it doesn't have to be that way. I don't want to get too deep into it, because then I'd be getting into the complexities and karmic-cause-and-effect of how I see the world, which could take quite a while. So if you rather, just stick with the first line. I stand by the second, though. Of course, that doesn't mean I'm right. ;) But as far as personal opinion goes, I'm a believer of the whole "you reap what you sow" thing... what gets confusing is that so much of it is done on a subconscious/unconscious level. So most of the time, we don't even know what we sowed, so that when reaping time comes around, a common reaction is "Wtf? Where'd that come from?". And I maintain that this applies as much to the positive as to the negative. -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 07:26
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Yeah, I need the money... and the money ain't bad. Not great, but not bad. With a raise coming soon even though I just started in September. I can always say "no" when my boss calls (it's not a matter of life and death or anything), but the more I say no, the less shifts I'll get. And the longer I hold out, the steadier it becomes. The guys with seniority are pretty stable, it's just crazy hours for me cuz I'm new. But... thanks. :) -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 07:12
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quote:Reading... Am on... page 2, chapter 1. I have no idea how long it is, but up to now, it's wicked! Seriously... skillful blend of comedy and suspense, almost bordering on horror (nothing -quite- scary yet, but it has its freaky moment). I'm literally on the edge of my seat reading this... Read it! Read it! It rocks!!! Very well written, the author's a natural. [Edit:] How long is it? I had to take a break after a while because I was getting freaked out, so I checked out the forum... seem's it's a whole book or something?! [ Tuesday, October 11, 2005 08:24: Message edited by: Muji ] -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 05:50
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quote:I think that could be a civilized compromise... Contain the insanity. :D -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 05:45
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Traitor! :P Throwing me to the wolves, are you? ;) I've barely even begun... there's still plenty here I haven't read and replied to. :( ... Yes, long ranting posts can be annoying to some. But it's not like this is a mundane thread with short, insignifant posts. It's a thread where many are writing huge posts, dealing with all sorts of topics and (at least I hope) having a good time of it. There's also the matter of choice. Clearly this (type of) thread doesn't appeal to anyone. And I maintain that message boards are a free-form medium, and that those who frequent them do so of their own free will. I don't post on every thread. Most people don't post in every thread. Honestly, I doubt if anyone posts in every thread. As such, I see nothing wrong with using a thread for its intended purpose (or at least new-found purpose, considering threads tend to change over time). This one's present purpose being that of opinionated, long-winded rants about everything and nothing. ;) ... I can understand having other things to do, though. I'm only back here now because I'm apparently not working today... or at least, not that I know of yet. ... Ah well, I'll just keep doing what I do. I've tried stopping it before (to no avail) and have long since given up hope of being a non-big-post-maker. I just want to add that, in my experience, big posts tend to be involving. And as much as this may not be the case for everyone, there's always a few people that end up writing far more than they're used to, diving into the discussion at hand, and I find that to be great fun. :D (And for the record, no, I won't take offense if people get annoyed at me and tell me to stfu. I'll understand, and tone down. But until then...) [ Tuesday, October 11, 2005 05:47: Message edited by: Muji ] -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 05:36
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This is a poll without being a poll, because I want to avoid the stigma associated with a proper poll if I can. ;) That, and, ultimately, I just feel like ranting. :P ... Question: Are you (or have you ever been) on-call for work? ... My present job requires me to be so, and this is a first for me. Usually, it's on a daily basis, finding out day by day if/when/where I'm going to work the next. But this morning, it's by the minute/hour/whatever, and I'm finding that to be extremely disruptive, annoying and to—some extent—stressful. ... If anyone has any experience dealing with something like that, I'd be curious to hear what you might have to say about the topic. -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 05:31
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quote:Good point, but let's just say the chances are dramatically reduced. ;) As I said, I don't quite remember the exact debate, but it was something along those lines; point being (much like Stugri-La said) that giving a quantifiable value to an individual life is extremely hard, if not impossible. -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 03:53
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quote:Having an affair—even if you truly love the person you have an affair with—is still an act of treachery. As such, overall, even if love is involved, it's not truly an act of love. Because whatever love you may be showing to one, you lack for the other. -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 02:49
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~shakes fist at Synergy~ Trying to de-throne me and take over as Mr. Big-Poster, is that it? ;) ... Oh my... so much to read... and still so much to catch up on. I'll get around to it. Hopefully before it's too late. But for now, since I have to get ready for work and don't have much time, just this: quote:If we take as fact (for the sake of this discussion, of course, since we can't -really- know) that all things come from the One and are, by consequence, spiritual in nature, perhaps we can bridge the gap between our modes of thought in the following way: Animals may have achieved a "truer" level of spirituality insofar as that they exist in a harmony with the natural world around them that humans lack, but this is a static spirituality. It is unconscious, and simply "there". Humans, on the other hand, despite suffering from many incertitudes and—in some cases—disharmony, are special insofar as that their spiritual nature is dynamic; humans are conscious about spirituality in a way that animals clearly seem not to be. To me, this would certainly qualify as being special and worthy of note. Free will is a powerful and beautiful thing. That we can question and seek to understand seems to be a characteristic only possessed in our present world by homo sapiens sapiens (not passing judgment on our ancestors). This is a trait that has never been observed in other animals, to the best of my knowledge. Arguably, in time, this might lead us to a higher state of being which might be beyond the reach of animals...? -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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quote:I thought that too at first, but then I reminded myself I haven't seen that many. Still true, though, it's the best of the ones I've seen. Most excellent indeed!! :D -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 02:26
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omgwtfbbq! Really? Wow! Can I have your autograph? -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, October 11 2005 02:24
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quote:99? ;) ... For what it's worth, I vaguely recall something along the lines of questions 4, 5 and 6 in a class on philosophy I once took. At least #6. I don't quite remember what was discussed, but the basic premise inherent with the question(s)—which made sense at the time—was that it was extremelly morally ambiguous at the time, and there was no simple answer. It may have been only #6, and the class may have been metaphysics. I'm not sure. I'm seem to remember something along the lines of how with the senior citizens, they had lived their life, but by that fact, they had more to bring/share to the world than the children (having experienced more, and all that) whereas in the case of the children, they hadn't lived their lives yet... so on one hand, that was a good enough reason in itself to spare them, whereas on the other hand, that was a very fact used to give a reason to choose them over the senior citizen; not having truly lived yet, all humanity would be losing is raw potential... and who was to say that one (or even, god forbid, all five!) of the children would be the next hitler? Or conversely, who was to say that those same 5 children might not die the next day from something else anyways? These arguments aren't right. I know. I can't remember exactly what I had been told... something along these lines. But it was very poignant at the time, and very hard indeed to make a decision. -------------------- "Take time to listen to what is said without words, to obey the law too subtle to be written, to worship the unnameable and to embrace the unformed." -- Lao Tzu Posts: 124 | Registered: Monday, September 26 2005 07:00 |