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Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Sunday, July 22 2007 09:58 Profile #243 I thought of this thread last night while in Powell's Bookstore. I saw a little magnet (one of the "funny" kind) which said "Jesus was a liberal Jew." It reminded me that most folks are okay with the idea that religion is refined through the ages, evolving to accept newly discovered truths. It is only when folks insist on preservation of the old that we run into problems. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Saturday, July 21 2007 13:46 Profile #234 contextual is the proper spelling. :P -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Harry Potter in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Saturday, July 21 2007 12:20 Profile #45 When did reading become a contest of speed? -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Harry Potter in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Friday, July 20 2007 19:49 Profile #34 quote: Originally written by Tyranicus: *I have in my hands my copy of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. :D* 1. Who won? 2. Who done it? 3. Not too tough to type with a damn book in your hands? -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Friday, July 20 2007 08:20 Profile #218 I'm curious about the various usages of the terms "guilt" and "guilty." It seems I am, in some cases, reading them as absolutes, while in others they seem to be personal reactions (feelings) to certain actions. For example, I could feel guilty because I'm watching a movie instead of doing the dishes. I could feel guilty because I'm working instead of watching a movie. I could feel perfectly fine for lifting a mp3 off the web. I could feel guilty for pirating shareware, but perfectly okay with pirating a $5000 piece of software I only need once. It seems to me that we each have our own softcoded sense of guilt, which can be tied to religion, but not necessarily. What makes one person feel guilt isn't the same for another, and unless you follow a more general code of morality neither is right or wrong. The continuum includes some folks that feel guilt for just about anything, and others that feel guilt for nothing. On the experiment mentioned by Randomizer, I not entirely sure that requiring chimps to have human emotions (sharing/moral outrage at inequity) would be any more productive than having humans share chimp emotions, whatever those may be. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Harry Potter in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Thursday, July 19 2007 08:39 Profile #24 So, JK finally figured out how rich she needed to be? -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Thursday, July 19 2007 08:26 Profile #195 Dang. I get get back from a day of tuna fishing to find this morass. In conclusion, the dictionary definitions are written by people with morals and agendas. The irony is that we may find when/if there is a judgment day that the murderers, embezzlers, and thieves are all awarded everlasting joy and harmony in Nirvana, and the do-goodies who wasted their lives away hoping to not offend or affect will in fact spend their personal eternity in torment for having wasted every second of opportunity on the corporeal space. But that is the funny thing about morality. It boils down to being an incredibly convenient, yet equally useless measurement of action. :) Edit : Premature... [ Thursday, July 19, 2007 08:29: Message edited by: Jumpin' Sarcasmon ] -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
The Future in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Tuesday, July 17 2007 15:19 Profile #5 Maybe it will be an incredibly bright world, well lit by an intensely brilliant sun. Cuz then, you know... -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Tuesday, July 17 2007 12:55 Profile #142 Actually, I was just pointing out that Stillness had supposed a very credible witness, a sighting that a lot of people want to have verified, and yet some small detail made the whole thing tumble like a house of cards. If that house had been in rural Washington state, and the garbage been "out by the garage," rather than under the bedroom window, it may have been something worth investigation. As is, it lacks veracity based on circumstances, and not the actual witness. In other words, you can have extremely credible witnesses in the Bible, but if what is being attributed to them is not factual, then I have a hard time believing other things as well. All it takes is one little mistruth to make the believable fall apart, which is what I read you (ADoS) describing above. Trolling... pschaw! -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Tuesday, July 17 2007 10:43 Profile #135 See, ADoS knows I originally hail from Massachusetts, and we all know that there is no Bigfoot living there. I mean, duh!!! Edit - And who stores their garbage four feet from the bedroom window? That right there would cause credibility to leak away from the story. [ Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:45: Message edited by: Jumpin' Sarcasmon ] -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Tuesday, July 17 2007 09:59 Profile #132 I got an eyewitness account of Bigfoot I'll sell you. Cheap. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Europa, God, and you, or Where it all fits. in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, July 16 2007 16:07 Profile #69 quote: Originally written by The Almighty Do-er of Stuff: In the hidden bonus track on Chris Rock's Bigger & Blacker album, the middleweight boxing champion of the world has just been declared. An interviewer asks him how he won, so he thanks God and says he couldn't have done it without God's help. Then, the interviewer talks to the loser, who has some broken bones, bruises, and a dislocated eyeball, and the loser says that he almost won, but then God punched him in the head and beat him up. He could have beaten his opponent one-on-one, but him against the champion and the Lord together isn't fair. Sweet! I'm gonna have to get me a piece of that action. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, July 16 2007 14:42 Profile #121 It is a narrow line, as a religion must explain itself to flourish, but to appear pushy could defeat the purpose. It seems that most are in agreement that premeditated proselytizing is a bad way to go, yet it seems a mainstay for at least one very prominent religion. What does seem to be a common denominator for successful religions is that they must allow for some self-sacrifice in order to increase the wealth of the whole. But, this isn't such a strange thing, as it is what runs all collective bodies of purpose, whether they be families, guilds, towns, or entire countries. The loose collective of sport fishermen that I run with have an unspoken agreement to never leave anyone behind. I know of several people that have their lives (but no more boat) because of this bond. It isn't exactly a religion, but if you swap out some words it certainly acts like one. I think what it boils down to, for me, is that organized (spiritual) religion has nothing to offer me. These other forms of collective association and common purpose have a lot to offer me. In this age it seems a lot less necessary to have organized religion, in spite of the remaining need for organizations that serve similar purposes. Or, it might be that going 50 miles offshore in a 26 foot boat is just a little too "out there" to not have fellow fishermen looking out for you. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, July 16 2007 12:55 Profile #114 It is kinda silly. It would be silly beyond epic proportions if atheists began wearing that symbol on chains around their necks, or plastered on the back of their cars. But come on, no one would ever dream to do that, right? ps. This previous statement just begs for someone to find a reference or illustrative picture. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, July 16 2007 12:18 Profile #111 I guess more to the point would be to suggest that it would be extremely rare to have a man and woman ring your doorbell in anticipation of dissuading you from your faith of deism/theism in favor of atheism/agnosticism. Generally speaking, people that don't care about faith don't care to spread that disbelief. It would just be silly. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, July 16 2007 10:37 Profile #107 My experience is that very few people talk about their lack of belief until a conversation is started by someone else. It usually begins with a "Huh, now why would you believe that?" Eventually it turns into this conversation, where the believer is inundated with disbelief. There must be something to that... -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Europa, God, and you, or Where it all fits. in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, July 16 2007 10:27 Profile #66 Speaking of "coming from God," I have been finding the phrase "Holy __it" extremely funny over the past few days. I mean really, if there was divine excrement, would it really be holy? -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
3D graphic in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Monday, July 16 2007 07:56 Profile #20 Yay! Borat is here! -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
WFGIYG in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Sunday, July 15 2007 10:03 Profile #2 Apples, meet oranges. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Saturday, July 14 2007 20:25 Profile #99 I always pictured it as more of a linear projection. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Saturday, July 14 2007 19:07 Profile #96 quote: Originally written by Thuryl: It's spelled "bizarre". This should've been a clue. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Saturday, July 14 2007 14:25 Profile #92 quote: Randomizer wrote stuff Another theory, equally compelling to me, is that oral story telling got things a little mixed up. If the eldest child in a family is consistently named John, and it is a family living in a time when last names weren't important, then to say John lived for 865 years isn't out of the question. All that means is that John, and his first born son descendants, existed as an unbroken lineage for 865 years. That is a huge success in a time when childbirth was iffy, childhood dangerous, and other such obstacles. Nothing should diminish the importance to have such a strong family, as it also suggests financial (or whatever measure of prosperity is chosen) success. But it is a grave mistake to assume literally that people lived for hundreds of years on an individual basis. In fact, it suggests a failure in reasoning which could by systemic. That, more so than any other interpretation, is what causes me to consider Biblical literalists as no more than raving lunatics. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Europa, God, and you, or Where it all fits. in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Saturday, July 14 2007 12:21 Profile #42 quote: Originally written by Student of Trinity: I must not quite have the hang of it yet. I may have slightly exaggerated. A smidge. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Social Degradation and Religious Decay (Split from "Life on Europa") in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Saturday, July 14 2007 12:16 Profile #85 Divorce may be catastrophic to the family, as it is the word we use to describe the dissolution of that relationship, but it is mostly good for the human beings involved. To be clearer, it is a selfish act because the individuals in the family have no further desire to be completely miserable, and seek to change that state of being. Ergo, divorce generally causes human beings to be calmer and healthier, and thus more likely to have the free mental and emotional time to become more spiritual beings. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Europa, God, and you, or Where it all fits. in General
Jumpin Salmon ? Man, ? Amazing Member # 5755	written Friday, July 13 2007 23:30 Profile #39 quote: Originally written by Stillness: If you've never been in a car accident it would be better if you never drive. If you drive it's not a question of "if" but "when" you'll be in an accident. If you have been in an accident, you'll most likely have another. The safe bet is to stay at home, or walk, but whatever you do, don't drive. It would be presumptuous of you to assume that you'd make it safely to your destination if you do. Yeahbut. You do what you have to do in order to make it from point/time A to point/time B. You take risks, which occasionally increase with the rewards. I (according to your faith) am risking quite a bit by living my life of glorious hedonism. You (according to my faith) are risking the never-ending wrath of my deity for failing to take full advantage of the bounty that has been provided on this planet. And as far as accidents go, I'm getting better. They happen less frequently now, and injuries to humans seldom exceed bumps and bruises. So I guess I must be doing something right. -------------------- WWtNSD? Synergy - "I don't get it." Posts: 4114 \| Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00

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