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Satellite Shootdown in General
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Originally written by Excalibur:

An eighty to ninety percent chance isn't too opportune, but maybe this will teach countries a lesson about not minding their own business.
Please just use simpler language. Believe it or not, it will make you sound smarter, because you'll be making better sense.

As for the satellite, I think it's unfortunate that it is falling out of orbit. If there's a lesson to be learned anywhere in this, it probably has more to do with government contract oversight than any sort of object lesson about the morals of spying from orbit.
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Geology Lecture in General
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quote:
Originally written by Excalibur:

I find it surprising that none of these suicidal killers place a homemade explosive in their backpack and detonate themselves in a hallway when class gets out.
That doesn't work for the fantasy they're fulfilling. They want to watch the people they're shooting get shot. It doesn't work for them if they don't get to see the immediate aftermath, however briefly it precedes their own deaths.

That's the big difference between sociopaths and zealots.

[ Wednesday, February 20, 2008 18:35: Message edited by: Drew ]
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Geology Lecture in General
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We're not talking about an ex-green beret here, though - we're talking about a wacko skinny white boy, like most of these other crazies, going into a school and attacking people.

What I think is probable in the knife scenario: people keep their wits about them enough to either run away, or dudes on hand overwhelm the guy. I think that there's a certain fear factor involved with guns that just isn't present when faced with someone wielding a knife, especially a skinny white dude. In any event, I think the likely number of casualties is much lower.
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Geology Lecture in General
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It isn't a question of motivation so much as sheer logistics - it's much, much easier to kill a lot of people faster with guns than it is with knives. Let's look at two scenarios: (a) wacko walks into classroom/school with a shotgun and several pistols; (b) wacko walks into a classroom/school with a bunch of knives. With no other information, which scenario is likely to result in more casualties?
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Geology Lecture in General
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Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

Unless you have personal experience with killing someone, either with a knife or a gun, shut up.
And how many people have you stabbed or shot to death, Salmon?
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Is it old? in General
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Seven Samurai ftw.
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Geology Lecture in General
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This is all currently under review in the Supreme Court in a case concerning the DC hand gun ban.

Regarding Salmon's point, while it may originally have been the case that the second amendment doesn't effect the states' right to regulate, the 14th may have changed that.
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Geology Lecture in General
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It's much harder to walk into a classroom and use five gallons of gasoline to kill a bunch of people at random though.

Beyond crazy people in the US working themselves up to becoming suicide bombers (which really requires sheer despair and probably some sort of zealotry, which the people who snap seem to lack for now), guns remain the single most effective way to carry out such carnage with so little effort. The power of a gun, the impersonality of just pointing and shooting, is unparalleled.

Without a gun, people bent on carry out acts of violence have to consider measures that are much riskier to them, and much more personal. Attacking someone with a knife puts you in their personal space. It makes one pause for thought.

I'm not sure what the solution is. I don't think that the current paradigm is acceptable though. Too many crazies have been able to easily ruin the lives of others.

[ Sunday, February 17, 2008 06:48: Message edited by: Drew ]
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Nyyyoron~! in General
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It's all about cultivating good will - he's raising his stock with an important constituency across the board.
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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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Shhhhh!!!

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The Handy Abominable Photo Thread in General
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Ah, to live where it's sunny all the time...
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Geology Lecture in General
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Tim, I'm not trying to intimidate you; I'm asking you to show a little respect and class. I don't think that's too much to ask, and it would certainly help stop you from coming across as a horse's rear (1) specifically here in a topic concerning the issues around why some nut job was able to go on a shooting spree, and (2) generally every other time you post.

Also, if you don't want people to use your real name, you should take it out of your profile.

[ Friday, February 15, 2008 11:02: Message edited by: Drew ]
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The Handy Abominable Photo Thread in General
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Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

Yeah, but in order to keep his posting rate he needs to continue making these valuable contributions.
Of course, but that's because everyone thinks you're *extra* cool if you have a high post tally.
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Geology Lecture in General
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Tim, do us a favor, and *think* about what you're going to post for a good 10 seconds before you hit "Add Reply." Please.

1. Regardless of whether the kid was going to commit an act of violence, a lack of access to guns probably would have (a) prevented him from having the "guts" to walk into a classroom of 150 people and commit the act, and (b) limited the scale of the damage he could inflict. Walking into a classroom with the same intent but only armed with a knife is a different story, and thankfully, these people aren't quite so demented that they're building suicide bombs here yet.

2. ET: unlike guns, alcohol is surprisingly easy to make in your own home, and this was a large part of the problem during Prohibition. Supply, in the case of firearms, could be much more easily controlled.

3. Why are murder rates so much higher in this nation than any of the others in our "class"? What are the distinguishing factors? Of course there are many, but a big one is the wide availability of guns.

[ Thursday, February 14, 2008 18:45: Message edited by: Drew ]
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The Handy Abominable Photo Thread in General
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Originally written by Excalibur:

I wonder what your hand looks like after trying to wash it off. ;)
Probably a clean hand. :rolleyes:
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Getting political in General
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Great! Go ahead and strip our country of the few remaining ideals from the Declaration of Independence that linger. :)

Any sort of "test" to determine voter eligibility would only serve to disenfranchise an enormous part of the population along economic lines. Enough protections for their property interests already exist in the system (probably too many); they don't need any more.

The cure to this "problem" is more information, not the establishment of a restricted, elitist class of voters. Happily, information is more widely available today than its ever been.

[ Thursday, February 14, 2008 18:27: Message edited by: Drew ]
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Nyyyoron~! in General
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If you have to ask, you'll never know.
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Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded. Something like that anyway. in General
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Originally written by Nija:

But the CoC says he hands out custom titles when he is drunk!
A person's age is irrelevant to his ability to get drunk. Hundreds of millions of former and current high schoolers and undergrads can attest to this.

[ Wednesday, February 13, 2008 15:32: Message edited by: Drew ]
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2008 Movies you're looking forward to in General
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Originally written by Space and Time and Space:

—Alorael, who is still surprised that the Uwe Bolls of the world haven't seized Zelda and done unspeakable things.
Unspeakable things have already been done to "The Legend of Zelda" on the small screen.
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Chicken or Egg? in General
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Please stop. You are only making yourself look foolish.

[ Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:31: Message edited by: Drew ]
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Getting political in General
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I think most of Hillary's supporters will be willing to back Obama, should it come to that, and I think at her core Hillary still supports her ideals and would be able to see that their interest would be best served by party-wide support for Obama, so she would back down.

[ Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:16: Message edited by: Drew ]
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What is evil in General
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Well, if you define seeing what the other side has to say as them taking the poll, becoming as annoyed as we are, and then further fanning the flames, then I reckon you'd be correct.

[ Wednesday, February 13, 2008 05:38: Message edited by: Drew ]
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Getting political in General
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Originally written by Arancaytar:

Bush has always seemed like a hard-right religious conservative. Is Bush so much less conservative than Huckabee as to put him closer to McCain?
Bush has been more of an opportunist than a religious conservative. I think the goals of his administration have always been more economically driven; the religious stuff was mostly lip service to the constituency keeping him in power.
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2008 Movies you're looking forward to in General
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Originally written by Excalibur:

I'm afraid you misinterpreted his post. Him asking that question was in reference to the terrible grammar demonstrated in your post prior to his.

I swayed a glance at Prince Caspian, otherwise my interest is suspended.

How are you today, Mr. Pot?
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