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OBoE in Blades of Exile
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In other news, I had a thought: we might package some/all BoE scenarios in a download near the BoE download. In fact, I think I'm going to compress my archive and see how big it is.

EDIT: Ach, 53 megs. Well, we might package the greatest hits of BoE, anyway.

[ Monday, May 28, 2007 20:41: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Few questions about Blades in Blades of Avernum
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Thirty-seven third-party scenarios, by the count in the (as-yet-unreleased) new version of the HLPM, plus the four included ones.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Avernum 1 in The Avernum Trilogy
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Ah, you're still around! It seemed doubtful that you were.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Node Limit in Blades of Exile
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I had the same reaction as Aran (hence the deleted post above), but I think I figured it out. I think that Jeff doesn't mean a literal change in the format of the exs file, but rather what he defined: a change that would make new scenarios incompatible with older copies of Blades. A new scenario made without the node limit would break an older copy of Blades that still has the node limit when you get to the 50+ node part of the scenario.

Now, it'd be easy enough to put a warning in the readme or in the intro messages that one should use only the most recent version of BoE (or only some particular version of BoE), so I don't think that this is much of a problem. Nevertheless, it is worth documenting.

[ Monday, May 28, 2007 14:19: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Node Limit in Blades of Exile
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EDIT: Oops. Never mind me.

[ Monday, May 28, 2007 13:24: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Node Limit in Blades of Exile
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Oh, right. My choice would be this: remove the limit entirely, but add a "Pause" feature that allows the game to come to a halt in the middle of whatever it's doing (running nodes, combat, etc.) in order to access menus or other applications. Attempting to quit while paused would have the same effect as quitting during combat (no opportunity for saving).

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Node Limit in Blades of Exile
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I like that idea, or Stareye's. I don't like getting rid of it entirely, because I've caused infinite loops in BoA on occasion, and the game has successfully caught me on it.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum 1 in The Avernum Trilogy
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Iffy, the topic of discussion is not in-game maps. Pay attention. This is what Slarty was yelling at you about in the other thread.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Blades of Exile Source Code Released in Blades of Exile
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quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

using 10.5.9
Really? :P

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum 1 in The Avernum Trilogy
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I don't think any of us have any more contact information for Silver than you do, though. If you posted what you wanted to talk to him about, one of us here might be able to help.

[ Sunday, May 27, 2007 19:25: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
A3: Fury Crossbow help in The Avernum Trilogy
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Talking to Judith doesn't help if you need to talk to the Sick Boy before talking to Judith in order to set a flag so that a dialogue option will be available. Nioca's right that it doesn't hurt anything in the game, but it's a waste of time.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Strategy in General
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If the flaw is that the answer really can't be anything except "Yes," the flaw is pretty fundamental. :P

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Strategy in General
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What on earth do you mean? Define "strategy."

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum 5, May Update in Avernum 4
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Cool. Sounds as though we agree completely, Jeff. Sorry for the confusion.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Compiling BoE source code for Windows in Blades of Exile
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EoB? :P

I want to say something useful in addition to that, but I just don't have anything.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Blades of Exile Source Code Released in Blades of Exile
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Cool. All that I've tried seems to function well on my non-Intel 10.3.9.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum 5, May Update in Avernum 4
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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

I'll let it go.
I suggest that you do the same.

EDIT: For crying out loud, apparently everything in this thread that I've said has been open to misinterpretation. It would have been better if I had said nothing at all. A5 sounds like it's going to be great, and it sounds like exactly the kind of game that I'd want to play. Reviving Erika by proxy through her relatives sounds a little weird, but I suppose it could be done well. I just have anxiety about it because I thought that Garzahd in A4 was not effective, and reviving people in general doesn't seem like a great idea in this series. But, as I tend to end all of my posts on this subject lately, I guess that Jeff knows what he's doing, so I'll wait and see.

[ Sunday, May 27, 2007 07:02: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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souls to take in The Exile Trilogy
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quote:
Originally written by The Mystic:

quote:
(Can anyone capture a guard btw?)
I think someone mentioned earlier in this thread that you could.

You think right.
quote:
Originally written by Chief Spider watching The Simpsons:

You can also capture a guard. Oh and by the way, if you want a demon, just cast Daemon.


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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Blades of Exile Source Code Released in Blades of Exile
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Neat! It seems to work fine with everything I've tried, with one exception: I don't think it reads old save files from the Classic app. Is it possible to make it do this?

I know Jeff's games generally don't, when they get Carbonized, but I don't have any idea what the technical reasons are for that (i.e. whether it's just hard or actually impossible).

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Main Menu idiosyncracy in Nethergate
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quote:
Originally written by SNM:

the file menu (which is the wrong menu :P )
That has always bugged me. I don't know what that says about me, but it has.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Regulation - Complexity sidebar in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Well, Stillness has acknowledged that there is a problem with his argument. He's just decided not to address it until we've met some arbitrary condition of his devising, which, I'm starting to realize, he has done several times in this discussion. That's why this discussion has been so fruitless.

If he had figured out something that the rest of us don't know, if he'd really stumbled on scientific truth that was well-grounded in facts and evidence, he'd be eager to answer all our questions about it to show how neat and interesting and true it is. (That's what scientists are like when they discover something. They tell everyone and his dog.) His deliberate evasiveness ("I'm not going to answer that question until you answer mine! Neener neener!") is very strong evidence that he hasn't figured out anything at all.

[ Saturday, May 26, 2007 06:18: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum 5, May Update in Avernum 4
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Jeez, Exodus really is not on Spidweb's site. I didn't even notice that until Jeff brought it up. I submitted it at one point. (And since no one seems to understand what I was trying to say on this topic, Jeff included, I'll let it go. I didn't think it was terribly hard to understand, nor that I said it poorly, but apparently it was or I did. It had nothing to do with plagiarism.)

Relatives of Erika? This sounds weird. I guess I'll have to see how this plays out, but my first reaction is anxiety that it won't be good.

[ Friday, May 25, 2007 23:52: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Regulation - Complexity sidebar in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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What part of "I'm willing to say that I don't have any reason to believe common descent if that will allow you to answer this very simple question" did you not understand?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Regulation - Complexity sidebar in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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Stillness, it took us at least ten or so pages to realize that you believed that evolution occurs and were arguing for some variety of special creation. Your posts on this thread have not been marked by the greatest clarity, and when I try to string them together to make them stick together logically, you tell me that I'm wrong. That's why people have been trying for a while now to get you to articulate, from start to finish, whatever the hell you're trying to say.

The only answer you've really given to claims that your argument uses poor logic is to assert that science typically uses worse logic than you're using. That's not a very good defense, because if you're wrong, you're wrong, and if you're right, your model is a scientific model, but all of science is unsound. Either way, you're on shaky ground.

Real scientific models don't require being laid side-by-side with something else in order to be verified. One doesn't have to know about Ptolemy's model of the universe in order to know that Kepler's works, and one doesn't have to know about Kepler's to know that Ptolemy's doesn't (at least with modern experimental accuracy). Creationism always tries to defend itself on the basis of perceived problems with evolution, which makes sense but is not strictly necessary.

Therefore, for the purposes of making this discussion work, I'll grant — and presume that we'll revisit this later, because this isn't really true — that I don't actually have any argument for evolution and common descent. Let's say that your creationism is the only idea in existence. You still have to articulate it clearly, from start to finish, and make sense.

You've articulated most of it, and I've conceded just about every point imagineable in order to focus, for the moment, on this one. You just have to answer the question that SoT and I have been posing for a while. I'll repeat it.

Why does the statement, "Irreducibly complex systems that have been created within the past few decades under our verified observation have all been the result of purposeful agency," imply the truth of the statement, "All irreducibly complex systems are a result of purposeful agency"?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Avernum 5, May Update in Avernum 4
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His description has more in common with what I was trying to do than just that.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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