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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Oldbiehood -- Analysis in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Didn't Goldenking come back? I vote his next moniker is Goldenoldbie. :P

[ Sunday, February 18, 2007 08:02: Message edited by: Slartanalycyst ]

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Topic for conversation... ... in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Making a topic with no bound topic is like wishing for more wishes, which, like the Disney movie says, you just can't do.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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What have you been reading lately? in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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They were both spam, and they both consisted entirely of making negative (often insulting) comments about other people and things.

What exactly is there to be confused about?

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
"Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said.
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A4 mass non-appearing items in containers bug in Tech Support
Raven v. Writing Desk
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On a lark, I started playing A4 again with a fresh copy of the Universal Mac version. Everything went fine until I got to Fort Draco. Then (following a quit and reopen between playing sessions) every container -- cabinet, chest, pot, etc. -- that I looked in was completely empty.

This has now continued through the Draco farmlands, all the Draco mines, and Tolliver's hideout. I know I'm not just forgetting that there were three entire zones with vacuous cabinets.

It also doesn't play a sound on opening a container for the first time, though I can't remember now if it used to or if I'm just thinking of G4.

If I go back to earlier areas, everything that was in containers before is still there. This is really strange, and fairly disconcerting. The game has been behaving normally otherwise.

SW/HW specs:
MacBook / 2 GHz Intel Duo / 1gb ddr2 sdram
OS X 10.4.6
Avernum 4 v1.0.3 Universal Binary (registered)

The files in the Data folder don't show any obvious signs of distress, i.e., they are all there. I've been playing off the hard drive with nothing else running.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Oldbiehood -- Analysis in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Online etymology sites all seem to flag it as coming to English from Yiddish, which makes sense.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Why isn't there a strong magic/medium shaping/weak weapon class? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Given G4's mechanics, it would be the uncontested best class, unless it had some kind of unprecedented drawback.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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What Spells Do You Wish You Could Cast? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Raven v. Writing Desk
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They did in Exile. Then Mindduel died, along with part of the ending of Exile 2. Sigh!

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Help me plan my character in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Raven v. Writing Desk
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quote:
Originally written by KnowledgeBrew:

Agent's Shelter is greater than Stasis Shield. Dexterity, Intelligence, Missile Weapons, and Mental Magic are the most important stats. Stasis Shield raises irrelevant stats.
The Stasis Shield can be incredibly useful in one scenario: you are using lots of Drayks (or other 1st-3rd tier creations). This is a plausible scenario, since Drayks are one of the best values in the game. Unlike 4th and 5th tier creations, Drayks don't have a built in mental effect resistance at all, which can lead to a number of annoying scenarios, particularly if they are charmed. In that case, the Stasis Shield is by far the most useful shield for a lifecrafter with many creations.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Recommend a new (to me) game in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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It's worth pointing out that console games are anything but off limits to you, as you can emulate the older systems. The NES and SNES in particular had a plethora of great RPGs, some of which involved the tactical elements I am guessing you enjoy, based on your list of favorite games.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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The Ancient Greeks in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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The real question is how many knots a trireme has to go at in order to reach conclusions prematurely.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Lowest Level at End in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Walter provided an extremely useful workaround in another thread. Pyroroamers! And other unstable creations. In previous games, you could use them to kill people without triggering hostility... or more importantly, experience. I'm not sure if that still works, but I don't see why it would have changed.

If it does work, that would allow you to get a lot more equipment than otherwise.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Oldbiehood -- Analysis in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Does that make us Drekkies?

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Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Lowest Level at End in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Raven v. Writing Desk
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quote:
Originally written by Nalyd Twisted:

Do higher level creations take a bigger bite of the XP pie?
No. More information is available somewhere in G4 Strategy Central.

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The Ancient Greeks in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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quote:
Originally written by Kyrek:

I have watched and read that information many, many times. There are numerous sources with that same information. That makes it far more likely that that article is actual information with real backing sources.
No, it just makes it more likely that the information has become accepted among a certain group of people.

There was a thread a few months ago about Luck in Geneforge 4. I kept insisting that it affected item drops, because I had the impression that it did, and because I had done tests in previous games with that result. A number of other respected information-mongers insisted on the same thing, because of their own false impressions, and because we were all backing each other up. And then other members started repeated it because they assumed we knew what we were talking about. But as it turned out, Luck has no effect on item drops in G4. We were all mistaken.

Does this sort of thing happen in popular history? Constantly, as SoT mentioned early in this thread.

In any debate where you actually care about the objective truth, you need actual evidence. It is not enough (nor is it really anything at all) to say "I've heard this over and over again."

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And to answer for the not knowing the Greek naval measurement system, there are recordings of the Greeks traveling large distances in a very short time. Once apparently a Greek ship traveled 340 miles in 24 hours. This is obviously an exaggeration, because that is over 16 knots, but the Greeks probably travelled at 8 or 9 knots in that journey.
Okay, now this is utterly ridiculous. You assert this "recording" as evidence, then say it is "obviously an exaggeration." Your final conclusion about how they "probably travelled" came entirely from your conception of how they probably travelled and not from the "recording" at all.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Oldbiehood in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Presumably, they are so newly arrived that they do not know who Drakefyre is. A reasonable possibility, given that he hasn't posted much lately.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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GF1 Sect question in Geneforge Series
Raven v. Writing Desk
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I believe one of that FAQs in the forum header has a section on "Powergaming the Sects."

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Jeff, please respond - Magic and Avernum 5 in Avernum 4
Raven v. Writing Desk
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quote:
Originally written by Archmage Alex:

My question is, why not? There already are summoning spells and, in Avernums past, they sometimes summon demons. Why not have a spell that specifically summons demons?
This one actually has an answer: because Jeff has apparently received numerous complaints over the years about the demon summoning spells in Exile, from concerned parents, I guess. Jeff concluded that demon summoning was not really an integral part of the game, and he might as well get rid of it.

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Does this require more than palette-swapping the spell effect graphics from red/yellow to white/blue and copy/pasting the code with "firedmg" switched to "icedmg"?
Maybe not, but maybe it does. I do think special effects are (rightly or not) probably one of the main reasons we have so few spells. In Exile, a huge chunk of the spells involved no graphics effects whatsoever. I would guess that, just as with the PC sprites, it takes more work to add spell graphics than we think.

Personally, I'd rather see 120 spells with 40 identical (not even palette swapped) graphics than 40 spells with 40 graphics. But I guess not everyone feels that way.

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There are any number of spells Jeff could add, taken from games he's already produced, that would not significantly affect gameplay in any way beyond adding variety, utility, and enjoyment to the use of magic in the game. So the question still remains, why not have more spells?
Quoted for agreement.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Need Help With Copying in Tech Support
Raven v. Writing Desk
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You've got to be kidding. *facepalm*

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Nethergate: Resurrection in General
Raven v. Writing Desk
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Profile Homepage #9
*throws Sylak's Exuberant Garbage at Nayld*

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00
Lowest Level at End in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Raven v. Writing Desk
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You only need the Fyoras with you when you are about to get experience for something. Mostly, I imagine shaping all seven right before any experience-granting encounter. Anyway, I think that means you can make do with AI Fyoras early on. It does force Lifecrafter unfortunately. The earliest you can get Fyoras at is level 3. A Lifecrafter can get to 46 essence at that point, enough for 5 Fyoras. An Infiltrator can get to 38, which is only enough for 4, sadly. One experience point later comes level 4, at which point a Lifecrafter has 60 for 7 Fyoras, and an Infiltrator has about 50, for 6 Fyoras.

Mental Magic is obvious, both for Daze and for Unlock, which lets you open doors without gaining experience.

Looking ahead, I'm not quite sure how to deal with Moseh, Monarch, and the like.

EDIT: Charm and Dominate seem particularly good since they allow you to nab enemy drops without gaining XP for them.

[ Saturday, February 17, 2007 05:59: Message edited by: Slartanalycyst ]

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Jeff, please respond - Magic and Avernum 5 in Avernum 4
Raven v. Writing Desk
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It's worth pointing out that A4 has close to the same number of spells as Nethergate -- just a few less -- but people have great things to say about the Nethergate spell system. Why is that? The spell lists actually compare surprisingly closely. Both games have at least 6 regular summoning spells, similar sets of healing and curing spells. A4 has more damage spells (including area of effect spells) but it doesn't have Hero of Old or Simulacrum.

I'll suggest two reasons Nethergate compares more favorably. First, the spells are in flavor; Wind Warriors, Coils of the Serpent, Hero of Old, Sever Seal, these are spells that tie in to the atmosphere and feel like they belong. Second, Nethergate is a significantly smaller game than A4, so the spells don't get old as fast. Avernum has more ground to slog through, and more hacking and slashing.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Lowest Level at End in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Raven v. Writing Desk
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That would be a neat challenge -- finish at the lowest level possible. (You up for this one, Thuryl?) A diplomacy/mechanics only game can almost certainly be done, and I bet you can get enough skill points for it solely out of doing the required quests. That restriction does make it harder though as pretty much all the diplomacy-related bonuses (like having people kill stuff for you) gives a conversational XP bonus. Hmm.

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