GF1 Sect question

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Agent
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I'm playing a Shaper in GF1 and want to go pro-Awakened. However, before I do this I want to join the Obeyers to take all of their goodies. Unfortunately, I've already responded pro-Awakened to the Awakened serviles and I can't seem to revert my opinion enough to persuade Rydell that I'm Obeyer material. I have enough leadership to avoid the initiation quests.

My main question is: If I've already given pro-Awakened responses to the Awakened serviles can I still join the Obeyers? More importantly, can I join the Obeyers and, after stealing their goodies, revert back to the Awakened?

Also: If I want to join the Awakened, could I join the Takers (I have enough leadership to avoid killing Elirah) first?
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I believe one of that FAQs in the forum header has a section on "Powergaming the Sects."

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Agent
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The FAQ mentions joining the Obeyers first. I already responded to many Awakened, so I'm wondering if my chances at joining both are shot.
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Agent
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Learned Darian will probably be able to fix it for you (may have to wait a while, though).

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shift+d is your friend. :D
theres also serviles who can radically alter the sects opinion of you. however those serviles tend to hide in isolated swamps filled with nasty nasty things.

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Warrior
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Just like Adal said. . .
If you are really desperate, use the shift-d cheat to reset your rep, clearallsects to reset and iloveserviles/ihateserviles.

Also, I can't remember where, but there is at least one person who gives you a free rep change.

[ Saturday, February 17, 2007 20:21: Message edited by: Oni of Chaos ]

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The trouble with Learned Darian is that she only resets your reputation once. So even if you use her to join the Obeyers, you may then find yourself unable to join the Awakened.

If this is your first playthrough, don't worry too much about powergaming; just play. You'll have more fun.

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It's G1, so Learned Darian is actually a him. :rolleyes:

Anyway, if you've only given your opinions to the Awakened, you could probably give enough anti-servile opinions to the Obeyers, the Takers, and elsewhere to be able to join the Obeyers without needing Learned Darian.

Dikiyoba believes that most of the Obeyer's goodies can be gotten from a high mechanics skill and some living tools anyway.
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quote:

Anyway, if you've only given your opinions to the Awakened, you could probably give enough anti-servile opinions to the Obeyers, the Takers, and elsewhere to be able to join the Obeyers without needing Learned Darian.
Then use Darian to change back.
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Dikiyoba believes that most of the Obeyer's goodies can be gotten from a high mechanics skill and some living tools anyway.
Or rampant destruction.
Or you could just stop caring about the sects and wipe them away in a mind-boggling genocide.
Somehow that always happens to me. can't figure out why...

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Posts: 42 | Registered: Monday, February 20 2006 08:00
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You can kill the leader of the Obeyers without getting in troble. And with the key you can unlock many things, while still being pro Awakened/Taker.
And if you kill the leader of the Awakened(I did) while being Awakened, then you can join the Takers, making many areas a lot easier.

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quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Dikiyoba believes that most of the Obeyer's goodies can be gotten from a high mechanics skill and some living tools anyway.
The same is true for the other sects. I also find level or two of Unlock to be quite useful when taking this route, as well as a high Leadership skill.

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Agent
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I just joined the Awakened and plan on returning to Pentil later, with a higher mechanics stat.

I'd kill Rydell but I feel sorry for him.
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Agent
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*bump*
Few new questions:

There is this Dryak that lives next to Learned Darian. He offers you information, items, and magic for your unused skill points. I prefer to use my skill points. I kill the Dryak. Why can't I loot his lair?

Why does the game hate you for joining the Awakened? They don't do anything. When you join you don't get anything cool or useful (except for some combat techniques which my Shaper doesn't need), nor do any new doors open up. Ellhrah basically says, "Hey cool, you're an Awakened now. A quest? No, no, that's Taker talk my friend. You can sit around on your butt all day though. It's kind of what we do around here." I take back what I said earlier, the Awakened do do something. Apparently, if you leave their super secret special awesome club, Ellhrah restricts you from rejoining because you hurt his feelings. So, not only do I not have anything to do while an Awakened, I also cannot lie my way around other sects to get their cool stuff. Did I miss something important or am I just supposed to wander randomly around the island, averting my gaze from the interesting pro-Obeyer/pro-Taker quests until I find Trajkov and the Geneforge?

I don't need spoilers for this last question, just a simple yes or no.
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quote:
Originally written by Enraged Slith:

[b]There is this Dryak that lives next to Learned Darian. He offers you information, items, and magic for your unused skill points. I prefer to use my skill points. I kill the Dryak. Why can't I loot his lair?
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Because it require the Dryak to open the doors for you. Don't worry, there's only a couple canisters and some equipment behind those doors.

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Why does the game hate you for joining the Awakened? They don't do anything. When you join you don't get anything cool or useful (except for some combat techniques which my Shaper doesn't need), nor do any new doors open up. Ellhrah basically says, "Hey cool, you're an Awakened now. A quest? No, no, that's Taker talk my friend. You can sit around on your butt all day though. It's kind of what we do around here." I take back what I said earlier, the Awakened do do something. Apparently, if you leave their super secret special awesome club, Ellhrah restricts you from rejoining because you hurt his feelings. So, not only do I not have anything to do while an Awakened, I also cannot lie my way around other sects to get their cool stuff. Did I miss something important or am I just supposed to wander randomly around the island, averting my gaze from the interesting pro-Obeyer/pro-Taker quests until I find Trajkov and the Geneforge?
You're supposed to wander randomly. Sort of disappointing.

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Well, there is one more aspect. Each of the sects has a different idea of what you should do with the Geneforge - and since you are talking about it, you know enough to know that the Awakened are the ones who want you to use it to empower yourself. Whether that is good or bad for you, I won't say.
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