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The Louvre Q&A in Blades of Avernum
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The Louvre now holds 214 graphics! :eek:

I have incorporated all suggestions to date.

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Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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The Louvre Q&A in Blades of Avernum
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Here's the issue (correct me if I'm wrong, folks): If you design a PC graphic, you are best off using the default, Avernum III chairs when you design the PC sitting down.

If you use another type of chair, the chair will morph from the default chair to the chair you designed when the PC sits down. This will look strange.

The alternative is to design a chair graphic to be inserted into the scenario the PC will be used in. The weakness to this is if people want to use the PC graphic in other scenarios, they must also use your chair graphic - or suffer the Morphing Chair Syndrome (MCS).

So, you are probably best off just using the default chair for PC graphics - at least for now.

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The Louvre Q&A in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally posted by Strontium 90:
My punk is original. Anyway, he's all done except for the sitting graphic, but after reading the topic about using Nethergate graphics I'm not sure what kind of chair to have him sit on. Since I have scrapped the scenario idea I had planed to use him with I won't be drawing a modern chair graphic. I suppose I could have him sit on a normal Avernum chair, but that just wouldn't look right.
So my question is, what should he sit on, or should he just stand?
Any recommendations are welcome.

I guess just leave him standing.

To anyone who's experimented with graphic substitutions in A3 - will this work?

"We no need to sit in no stinkin' chairs!" the party proclaimed.

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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The Louvre Q&A in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally posted by Mortimer:
Im sending in a zip of all my item graphics. Hope they are all in order.

EDIT: Erk I cant seem to be able to send emails through your submission form Void Master, is it ok if I could simply send my email directly?.

Yes, please do.

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Use of Nethergate graphics in "Blades of Avernum"? in Blades of Avernum
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Question about the chair graphics for PCs - It appears to me that all PC graphics I've seen so far use the default chair provided in A3. But what if you decide to use a different type of chair? Is there a way around including the chair itself in the PC graphic, as Kennedy suggests?

If not, it will look quite strange when your custom chair morphs into the default A3 chair every time your character sits!

"We all carry our own chairs!" the PCs shout!

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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The Louvre Q&A in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally posted by Xian Toe:
no offense guys, but it seems that mostly all the BoA pics (that were added to the database) are just the originals with their color changed. But I especially like the Slith Warrior with the sword. Original and great looking.
None taken, at least by me. We started this about two weeks ago, so I'm not surprised that most of the graphics are like this. I predict these graphics will be used in scenarios, so that's what it's all about.

Hopefully over time more original graphics will surface.

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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The Louvre Q&A in Blades of Avernum
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OK - should all be better.

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Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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The Louvre Q&A in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally posted by BoEing:
Jigga, if you happen to read this, your Morte graphic is a exact copy of my Morte graphic. Wait a minute, what's this smell? It smells... smells... a STOLEN graphic! :P
Please send me your moniker and e-mail address, and I'll correct the DB.

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Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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The Louvre Q&A in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally posted by Strontium 90:
I see that my graphics are up now, great!
It seems that I sent my punk graphic. I didn't mean to do this yet, due to the fact that it's not finished. Shall I re-send it when it's done (say, next month or so)?

That's fine.

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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The Louvre Q&A in Blades of Avernum
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I closed the old topic because it was become quite long. Let's use this area to discuss all Louvre-related stuff.

I'm happy to announce I now have an updated submission page. It's not perfect. If someone can ID a CGI script that would allow one to complete the fields of info on the current form AND attach their graphics WITHOUT first going to an e-mail client, let me know.

The Louvre is up to over 150 graphics! :eek:

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally posted by EEPLegolas:
So you are excepting bitmaps, too? Good... I make the files in bmp and then convert them, so I feel .gifs and .jpgs ruin image quality!


I'll take BMPs ONLY if you have no other way to translate them. Then I have to translate them anyway. There is no reason the JPG format should ruin an image if you set compression to 0%. GIFs can ruin something if you have a 24-bit image to begin with, but (and correct me if I'm wrong here, folks), BoA will probably only render 8-bit images, so designing 24-bit images for use in BoA is not a good idea.

Folks, I'm being swamped with images every day. I may soon just say GIF or JPG or no post. So please learn how to translate stuff on your own ASAP!

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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Bitmaps are fine.

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally posted by The Almighty Doer of Stuff:

EDIT: Stuff, The Almighty Do-er of? Could you please not do that?
I also recommend you save them as GIFs instead of ART. The image quality is terrible.

If people need to search for your stuff, asking them to type in your entire sig is not so good.

Several others will suffer from the first name last name structure I have set up as well.

Alternatives? Remember, I need to keep the DB as small as possible, so adding another field at this point is a last resort.

ART images? Everything I have so far is a GIF.

My email is bxb11@psu.edu

[ Saturday, March 01, 2003 15:43: Message edited by: Void Master ]

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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally posted by Aruneko:
Hey, Void Master, one of your graphics is labeled

"Giant Intelligent Friendly Spider (GIFT)"

You may want to change it so that its initials match the title (Spider begins w/ a T?)

But good job so far! Keep up the good work!

Somebody give me the official abbr. please. I always thought it was GIFT - short for Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spider. If so, I left out the Talking in the name.

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally posted by Strontium 90:
I see that my Indiana Jones graphic is up, so my zip file must have been received. Just wondering, are my other graphics going up, too?
I'm having problems with your other ones. Could you save them as GIFS and resend?

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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We're up to 106 graphics now!

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally posted by The Almighty Doer of Stuff:
Uh, Brett? You have three colored GIFTS listed as Giant Monsters. Also, my brown monster thingy doesn't really seem like a Wall Creature. It could be an Earth Elemental, I suppose, but I think I need to make a couple adjustments to the death animation.
Hmmm. The engine catches them as giant because that's in their name. Don't know how to get around this - do we say ONLY graphics that are two sheets are considered as giant? On the other hand a GIFT is a giant compared to a normal sized spider. I think I'll leave this one alone for now.

Just let me know what you want to call your earth-thing.

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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test of new sig - ignore

[ Tuesday, February 25, 2003 04:32: Message edited by: Void Master ]

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Couple of Questions about BoA in Blades of Avernum
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The complex graphic issue is the main reason I want to get a graphics DB running now. No sense in holding development of a good game up because graphics aren't available! :D

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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OK - I have updated the site with nearly all the graphics I've received (over 90). All in GIF format - this does seem to be the best choice, although I'll take jpg if that's how they come.

I now know enough to intelligently redesign the submission page, so that's next.

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Primer Site Updated in Blades of Avernum
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Added Items to the info.

Available at

http://www.personal.psu.edu/staff/b/x/bxb11/boa/boagraphics/

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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Here is the ideal situation for me:

Create a thumbnail graphic for each individual graphic, in GIF or JPG form.

Name the original graphic in all lowercase.
Name the thumbnail graphic the same as the full one, adding a th on the end of the name, just before the file name extension.

Example:

myfile.gif
myfileth.gif

If you have a giant graphic, please combine both sheets into one file, as I did with the dragon example already on the site.

If you want to provide an animation of the graphic (like an NPC attacking), it must be an animated GIF. Add an a on the end of the name, just before the file name extension.

Example:

myfilea.gif

This will ensure success of the site. I may not have time to process graphics not ready to go.

So, for those of you who have graphics, can you try this approach, and send me the files at bxb11@psu.edu?

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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OK - Here's round one of the DB. Only 6 records so far. Let me know what you think:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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Item Graphics - They seem to be 40X40 for each item. Can someone confirm this?

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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BoA Graphics Database Questions in Blades of Avernum
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My last conversation with Jeff (about a month ago) was there would be NO talking graphics. :(

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All that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream.

Visit the Louvre, the BoA Graphics Database at http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/
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