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BoE Posse
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I'm working on the main key words that describe a graphic. So far I have:

PC
NPC
Monster
Giant Monster
Terrain
Animated Terrain
Item

Can you think of any other most-common words used to describe a BoA graphic? Thanks!

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Law Bringer
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Jeff said there may be talking graphics, and you it might be helpful to distinguish between monsters that always look the same (like goblins) vs. monsters that look different in combat mode (like soldiers).

—Alorael, who otherwise thinks the list is well divided, unless someone actually does make new PC "paper-doll" pictures for the side place where you can see your character's equipment and inventory.
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Guardian
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Well if someone does decide to make new inventory screens, I hope they are a professional graphics designer. One can only imagine the chaos that could insue... or rather, the terrible stuff people will be making.

Actually... I guess crappy stuff could fit in any topic, so nevermind

Edit: Last bit there!

[ Tuesday, February 18, 2003 13:42: Message edited by: EEPLegolas ]

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I have actually made a few inventory screens for my PCs. Most of them are copy/pasted from other sources, but I do have one original which looks like $#!%.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alorael:
Jeff said there may be talking graphics, and you it might be helpful to distinguish between monsters that always look the same (like goblins) vs. monsters that look different in combat mode (like soldiers).
I'm not sure what you mean by this? Did I miss a type of graphic at

http://www.personal.psu.edu/staff/b/x/bxb11/boe/BoAGraphics/

?

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BoE Posse
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My last conversation with Jeff (about a month ago) was there would be NO talking graphics. :(

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BoE Posse
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Item Graphics - They seem to be 40X40 for each item. Can someone confirm this?

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Infiltrator
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The ones I have are 30x30 for each item (Checked against the Avernum 3 graphics. Includes border.)
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BoE Posse
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OK - Here's round one of the DB. Only 6 records so far. Let me know what you think:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/bxb11/boa/louvre/

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The talking skull isn't mine, or rather, I wasn't the one who pasted it into boxes. I can't remember whose it is.
I'll also send you other graphics when I motivate myself to, or you can get them yourself (as you presumably did for the ones up there) at either my site (its down as my homepage) or drakey's site.
Would you prefer I send them or not?

EDIT: and the actual engine there is pretty good. Would it be possible for you to put a link/button to download stright to disk (rather than having to get a contextual menu). That's just me being picky though.

[ Wednesday, February 19, 2003 09:10: Message edited by: Jigga ]

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I'll send you the item graphics from my site if you like, if of course, thats ok with Sodium Cyanide and Motekye, otherwise I will simply send you mine, I will have to edit them. So which would you prefer, the inventory view of the items or the laying on the ground/isometric view of them? (most of my items are simply BoE items given a isometric view).

http://www.freewebs.com/mortimer/itemsgraphics.htm

Thats my site if you want to know what items are up there and which ones you want.

[ Wednesday, February 19, 2003 23:26: Message edited by: Mortimer ]

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Brett, I'm working on the text files, but I've been really busy lately. Don't worry - it's getting done, albeit slowly.

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BoE Posse
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Here is the ideal situation for me:

Create a thumbnail graphic for each individual graphic, in GIF or JPG form.

Name the original graphic in all lowercase.
Name the thumbnail graphic the same as the full one, adding a th on the end of the name, just before the file name extension.

Example:

myfile.gif
myfileth.gif

If you have a giant graphic, please combine both sheets into one file, as I did with the dragon example already on the site.

If you want to provide an animation of the graphic (like an NPC attacking), it must be an animated GIF. Add an a on the end of the name, just before the file name extension.

Example:

myfilea.gif

This will ensure success of the site. I may not have time to process graphics not ready to go.

So, for those of you who have graphics, can you try this approach, and send me the files at bxb11@psu.edu?

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Files re-sent as requested.

Note: In preparing files to re-send, I noticed that JPEGs exhibit color distortion in the areas that should be white (They cease to be white.) Does anyone know why this happens? (Re-sent files were sent as GIFs, which do not seem to exhibit this effect.)
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quote:
Originally posted by Mortimer:
I'll send you the item graphics from my site if you like, if of course, thats ok with Sodium Cyanide and Motekye, otherwise I will simply send you mine, I will have to edit them.
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It's fine with me. The more places they go up, the better!

PS: AIRPLANE / Salamander made the skull into a character graphic.

[ Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:19: Message edited by: Strontium 90 ]

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Jpegs compress files by cutting corners and approximating colours. If a long line is all roughly one colour, they just put in code or whatever for - long line this long this colour.
I would suggest gifs. If you're worried about losing colours due to the 256 thing, you should be able to customise the pallete with some kinda colour optimising thing (you can do this in graphic converter methinks)
Why did I just say 'methinks'?

EDIT: Can we use that online submission form?

[ Friday, February 21, 2003 10:56: Message edited by: Jigga ]

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Shock Trooper
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Cool site. It'll be so much better when it's got more graphics on it. By the way, maybe I'm just stupid, but why start with graphics now, when they haven't even set a date for BoA's release yet (or have they??).
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Triad Mage
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They have - Winter 03/04.

Besides, it's always good to get a head start. There are already about 100 BoA graphics, and it's better to get them categorized now than later.

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Is there a list of all the BoA Graphics Sites somewhere. If not, someone should make one.
(Isn't Winter a year away? nooooo. cannot... wait... that... long... *dies in despair, then thinks that he'd probably rather play Lemmings till then...*)
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Triad Mage
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Lemmings is a good game - especially on that super-hard last difficulty level.

http://www.sitemouse.com/users/drakefyre/graphics.html#boa

That's my site, which probably has the most BoA graphics. However, it doesn't have any item graphics.

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quote:
Originally posted by Drakefyre:
Lemmings is a good game
Firstly, thank you for agreeing with me!!

and also thanks for the url of your database.
[ Sunday, February 23, 2003 06:07: Message edited by: Lemmings fre@k ]It's pretty cool![/edit]

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BoE Posse
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OK - I have updated the site with nearly all the graphics I've received (over 90). All in GIF format - this does seem to be the best choice, although I'll take jpg if that's how they come.

I now know enough to intelligently redesign the submission page, so that's next.

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test of new sig - ignore

[ Tuesday, February 25, 2003 04:32: Message edited by: Void Master ]

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Yay!! People do actually listen to you (void's sig)

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Uh, Brett? You have three colored GIFTS listed as Giant Monsters. Also, my brown monster thingy doesn't really seem like a Wall Creature. It could be an Earth Elemental, I suppose, but I think I need to make a couple adjustments to the death animation.

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