Should we be able to create the Unbound and new high level creations in geneforge 5?

AuthorTopic: Should we be able to create the Unbound and new high level creations in geneforge 5?
Apprentice
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I think we should. We should be able to devistate the lands with high and powerful creations.
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Law Bringer
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We probably will get a new creation in the higher levels, but not something as unbalanced as an unbound.
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Lifecrafter
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Unbound are huge, mindless Drakons gifted with as much power as a physical body can take. You read in the text (not directly but you get the impression) that they are as powerful as it is possible for a physical creature to be. But in so doing they have become totally, utterly, mindless Not savage, not rogue, just mindless. Incapable of any rational thought, such is the power that they barely contain. They were created as endgame, doomsday, armageddon. The ultimate weapon to obliterate the shapers.

In other words; no. You will not create them.

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Jeran Korak-Half-Drow
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:cool: Any creation can be controlled. And did you create the creature or make the game. How do you know unless you did? All it takes is a very powerful shaper and alot of essence. But i see your point. They probably wont be in creation selection. But they better have something a heck of alot better than the Ur-Drakon and way cooler. Because on Geneforge 4 I am a Lifecrafter with 500 Health and 3 permanent Ur-Drakons two of them with 1600 health each and my main Ur-Drakon that has 1680 health and destroyed all major characters on terrestria. And I have 315 extra essence for back up creations. I have made the best account that i have ever made. I have never been beaten. :cool:
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Agent
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The entire point of the unbound is that they can't be controlled. That's their raison d'être.

text1 = "You stare at the bound creation. It stares off into
space, frozen. The energy field surrounding the creature holds,
controlled by the control panel behind you to the east. You examine
it at your leisure.";
text2 = "It is a drakon, but unlike any you have ever seen. It
glows. Powerful heat radiates from it, enough that it would probably
burn you if you touched it. Whoever created it filled it with all
the pure, uncontrolled power they could.";
text3 = "And, as with all Shaping, there was a trade-off. In
return for power, they gave up sanity. They have followed the same
path as Shaper Monarch, but with far greater resources and skill.";
text4 = "This drakon is unbound, free of all the controls normally
put on creations. It is a pure weapon, designed to unleash
uncontrolled havoc wherever it is placed.";


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Apprentice
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Yes and no.

For one, they had to be made in vats. no one ever mentioned it would be possible to make it without one, so no
But the Ur-Drakons also had to be made in vats at first, but than because of "inflation" you could than make them without it. So if jeff wants to do that than fine.
I personally think that it would be much more cinematic if we couldn't make them.
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Shock Trooper
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The only creature I really want is the Oozebeast. Or, failing that, the Ornk Lord.
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Infiltrator
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Hey someone else with similar interests! I too would like to make an oozebeast. Though they lack in speed and power, they would make up for it by spraying acid. And they're cool.

[ Wednesday, January 23, 2008 14:49: Message edited by: The Ratt ]

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Apprentice
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Geneforge 7, the last boss to win the game. for the rebels, killing the council, for the shapers, A GAINT UR-OOZEBEAST!!! It should have aura of flames and acid spray and unleash both at the same time. And 500 health. No, 5000 health! And it should be neon orange!

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Don't mess with Texas.
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Agent
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Jeff's going to stop with Geneforge 5.

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Drew - "Coincidence, correlation, or causation, I wonder?"
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Shaper
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Jeff is pretty notorious for evolving concepts as new games come out. Just look how the geneforge itself has become weakened over four games. He could easily include the unbound as the third level drakon creation in the next game and simply include a few lines of text saying the design has been rewritten for more obedience and less random destruction. Not that I would like for this to happen, I personally am not a fan of big pink dragons.

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You lose.
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Guardian
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One cannot control the mindless.

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Law Bringer
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quote:
Originally written by Agrajag:

One cannot control the mindless.
We mods know that all too well.
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Agent
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*laughs hysterically*

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Drew - "Coincidence, correlation, or causation, I wonder?"
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Councilor
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Originally by Nalyd:

quote:
One cannot control the mindless.
...unless you're Akhari Blaze.

(Randomizer, take note. :P )

Dikiyoba.

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Infiltrator
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quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Originally by Nalyd:

quote:
One cannot control the mindless.
...unless you're Akhari Blaze.

(Randomizer, take note. :P )

Dikiyoba.

Perhaps all them mods should rename themselves Akhari Blaze

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A rock has weight whether you admit it or not
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Lifecrafter
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Then Imban really WOULD be everyone!

But jokes aside, while I admit it would be fun to have a massive pink Barny look-alike under your contrl incinerating everything in massive blasts of burning essence, it's also totally unrealistic. It's not going to happen.

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Jeran Korak-Half-Drow
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While they wouldn't be possible for a lone shaper to make it might be possible to seize control of one in a similar manner when you face down the prototype at ghaldaring hq. However this wouldn't be easy and I sincerly doubt game mechanics will let you walk around with a barney.

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A rock has weight whether you admit it or not
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Lifecrafter
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I agree with Excalibur on this.

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Jeran Korak-Half-Drow
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quote:
Originally written by Micawber:

The entire point of the unbound is that they can't be controlled. That's their raison d'être.
QFT [as a protest against uberpowering the creatures].

Drakons "evolved" from highly controllable creatures, likely fyoras, with obedience inbred. They are unbound from the control.
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