TESTERS REQUIRED FOR A VERY SIMPLE SCENARIO!
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BANNED
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written Friday, July 16 2004 09:11
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RC's been sending me the newest versions of your "scenario", so yeah, I'm still "testing." Also, my report was far nastier before. I felt it was pure evil, however, so I took off some of the sad facts, and sent. It wasn't meant to be that insulting, though, as I stated in one of the previous posts of mine. It was that nasty just to get you reconsider releasing this masterpiece. But meh, you said you're re-drawing the towns, fixing the bugs, I'm quite willing to help you. ..this just might turn into a real scenario, after all. [ Friday, July 16, 2004 09:51: Message edited by: CHOKEONIT ] -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 417 | Registered: Sunday, June 27 2004 07:00 |
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written Friday, July 16 2004 09:55
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Oh, and just came to my mind, I actually *could* help you re-draw the towns. I could draw them, send to you, after which all you'd have to do is to set the scripts as they should. See, I was thinking of BoE-editor-styley all the time. With BoA, it's easier. :) -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 417 | Registered: Sunday, June 27 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Friday, July 16 2004 10:56
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1) Raised Wall -- Skeletons 2) First Tower -- "Everything annoying under the Sun" fits quite well. 3) Winding Wall -- Ruby Skeletons. 4) The Bridge -- Ummmmmmm................ I remember an Efreet and a Shade(the green kind)..... And I think there was one other moster....... 5) The Vahnatai Pit -- Shades(the dark purple kind) -------------------- Soy sauce makes everything better. Except for Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Soy sauce makes Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders all sticky. And it makes them smell funny. But soy sauce makes everything else better. Just not Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Posts: 129 | Registered: Sunday, July 4 2004 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Friday, July 16 2004 12:10
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No, Micael, I didn't bother playing it. I said that I was waiting for the third version, since you said you were already working on it. Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Friday, July 16 2004 12:46
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- Rentar-Inhro added (you get to kill her if you want to) - certain typos fixed (The Vahnatai locked door) - More monsters and bridge space in 'Bridge' - Hidden City's items not quite fixed (Some work though) - First Tower survived after today's disaster - Whole set of New monsters - Bladesmaster Sword = 26-1960 damage. (Lose it after scenario) - Added lever traps etc. - Leverscript working now - One SUPER Nasty trap added in Wall of Warriors - Dragon Zombies and Icewind Skeletons in Pit of the Vahnatai - Ur-Basilisks, Efreets, and Altered Bug in 'BRIDGE' - Hidden City entrance system works - You can receive Quests in Small cave - most people can talk in small cave - Rentar Ihnro has her own script (A basic copy of Vahkohs' script) - Winding Wall has Foul Sekeletons, Icewind Skeletons etc alongside the Ruby Skeletons - Small cave now starts off with a Vampiric Hraithe instead of a vampire - Wall : Skeleton javelineers are interspersed amongst the skeletons. - Outdoor wandering monsters have less monsters, but stronger - Outdoor scenery still not masterpiece, but TINY bit better - Overall stats : All undead are stronger. If there's anything I missed out in the upgrades that you suggested, please tell me so, and I will see if it should be put in or not. - Archmage Micael EDIT : And TGM, if you want to draw me a decent Pixie Forest glade I would be happy to accept it for my scenario. I have a woodcutter who thinks there are pixies in a glade. He believes they are helping the Undaed. (You have to kill them all etc.) I don't care how it looks, so long as it has one place for a mystic control panel device thingy. EDIT 2 : Forgot to say. Town has to be number 12 or over, else I can't integrate it. EDIT 3 : I've decided... If anyone has any idea how to make my scenario better - what I should have in it, etc, I would like to know. I want my scenario to be good, So please help by givin me your helpful ideas!!!!! ETIT 4 : And yes, it has RENTAR IHNRO in it. It used to just be Vahnatai Lord (Who was meant to be rentar Ihnro all along), but now it has Rentar's shade, and Rentar Ihnro. Rentar-Ihnro haters, all you have to do is kill her :D . It's not THAT hard, not with the bladesmaster sword. [ Friday, July 16, 2004 13:17: Message edited by: Archmage Micael ] -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Avernum?" ~ Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). -------------------- MY FORUM! Randomosity at it's highest! :) Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Friday, July 16 2004 13:06
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Oh dear god. It has RENTAR-IHRNO in it? You have to be kidding me. Oh well. It had to happen sometime. EDIT: And by the looks of it, you'll be lucky to get a 3.0 out of even the general Spiderweb audience. Don't count on ratings of any kind from anyone -- which is always good Blades advice, really. [ Friday, July 16, 2004 13:08: Message edited by: Just Call Me Kel ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Friday, July 16 2004 16:31
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Could you perhaps actually have text in it? All I really see is combat. A plot would be nice, too. Also, the overuse of Magically Locked doors should be cut out. I almost had no spell points left after the first tower. You should also rearrange the town entry points and exit points. In the Vahnatai Wall, I could escape town by going north and then I'd be forever stuck. Your outdoors seriously need to be redone...all of your town designs and mostly everything. -------------------- Austrian Alex Posts: 1307 | Registered: Tuesday, May 7 2002 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Friday, July 16 2004 18:55
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The biggest glaring bug(well, it's not so much a 'bug' as it is a 'ommited piece of stuff') I've seen so far is this  *goes back to playing* -------------------- Soy sauce makes everything better. Except for Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Soy sauce makes Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders all sticky. And it makes them smell funny. But soy sauce makes everything else better. Just not Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Posts: 129 | Registered: Sunday, July 4 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Friday, July 16 2004 18:56
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The biggest glaring bug(well, it's not so much a 'bug' as it is a 'ommited piece of stuff') I've seen so far is this And that sword can be 'used'. Something to the effect of a Knowledge Brew, I think. *goes back to playing* ~edit~ Oops. Double post. Can someone delete the post before this one? [ Friday, July 16, 2004 18:58: Message edited by: Pig Catapult ] -------------------- Soy sauce makes everything better. Except for Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Soy sauce makes Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders all sticky. And it makes them smell funny. But soy sauce makes everything else better. Just not Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Posts: 129 | Registered: Sunday, July 4 2004 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Friday, July 16 2004 19:02
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That bit of town design is a bug, I'd say... EDIT : Latest version - shouldn't "Rentar" really be a .txt file? [ Friday, July 16, 2004 21:47: Message edited by: Imban ] Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, July 17 2004 07:01
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My opinion of the Dragon Zombies: They need to be a purple-y red color instead of green, and they have too much HP. They killed my lvl 93 Nephil Rouge. -------------------- Soy sauce makes everything better. Except for Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Soy sauce makes Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders all sticky. And it makes them smell funny. But soy sauce makes everything else better. Just not Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Posts: 129 | Registered: Sunday, July 4 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, July 17 2004 07:32
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pig catapult, you're meant to use the BLADESMASTER sword agaist then. :D :rolleyes: - Archmag micael EDIT = MEANT BLADSMASTER POST - I WAS ONLINE FROM THE HIGHSTREET IN PLYMOUTH - ONE OF THOSE BT INTERNET THINGS. SORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING MISTAKE [ Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:41: Message edited by: Archmage Micael ] -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Avernum?" ~ Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). -------------------- MY FORUM! Randomosity at it's highest! :) Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, July 17 2004 08:14
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quote:........... oh............ Well they still need to be purple-y red.(Or magenta, as the case may be) -------------------- Soy sauce makes everything better. Except for Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Soy sauce makes Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders all sticky. And it makes them smell funny. But soy sauce makes everything else better. Just not Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Posts: 129 | Registered: Sunday, July 4 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, July 17 2004 08:15
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quote:........... oh............ Well they still need to be purple-y red.(Or magenta, as the case may be) ~edit~ In the Pit, I got a message saying ERROR: Failed to load Rentar -------------------- Soy sauce makes everything better. Except for Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Soy sauce makes Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders all sticky. And it makes them smell funny. But soy sauce makes everything else better. Just not Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Posts: 129 | Registered: Sunday, July 4 2004 07:00 |
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written Saturday, July 17 2004 08:57
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Surprising. -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 417 | Registered: Sunday, June 27 2004 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Saturday, July 17 2004 09:10
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You need to rename the file to Rentar.txt, as I said. Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Sunday, July 18 2004 05:12
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I'd like to test. I have too much time. Wait, sorry, cancel that. I just saw that this was only for Windows. [ Sunday, July 18, 2004 05:13: Message edited by: Nicothodes ] -------------------- Do not underestimate the power of the mechanical pencil. Join the Dark side. We have cookies. Played in: Fiddler on the Roof Bye Bye Birdie "Hey, Patrick, feel this random pipe. It's squishy"-Nils Posts: 834 | Registered: Thursday, July 8 2004 07:00 |
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written Sunday, July 18 2004 07:16
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Silly, you, all scenarios are cross-platform, you'll just need to convert the graphics. -------------------- The Great Mister kommari@gmail.com[/url] Posts: 417 | Registered: Sunday, June 27 2004 07:00 |
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written Sunday, July 18 2004 10:12
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quote:TGM, Do you want to make the Pixie Glade (Town 12)or not? I need to know wether to do it myself or not. - Archimage Micael TESTERS = DID ANY OF YOU (Apart from Blaspheme) HAVE ANY TROUBLE DOWNLOADING TESTING VERSION 3 FROM THE NET? [ Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:42: Message edited by: Archmage Micael ] -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Avernum?" ~ Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). -------------------- MY FORUM! Randomosity at it's highest! :) Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, July 18 2004 10:49
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I did not encounter any errors in downloading the third version of the scenario, and while its better, it still has a long way to go :) . A plot would be greatly appreciated. -------------------- Life is short. Use a Mac. Posts: 85 | Registered: Wednesday, July 14 2004 07:00 |
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written Sunday, July 18 2004 10:51
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quote:It has a plot - in a very loose sort of way. But dialogue is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo Hard, and it doesn't work half the time, messages DO exist, so it isn't AS bad as you say. :P -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Avernum?" ~ Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). -------------------- MY FORUM! Randomosity at it's highest! :) Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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written Sunday, July 18 2004 11:29
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(This post is in response to a request from the designer made after a conversation on AIM.) Hookay, relevant articles from the Designer's Forum. Dungeon Design, by Alcritas -- I'm guessing this is directly relevant. Vahnatai - Friend or Foe? by Drakefyre -- vahnatai evil villain types have been done in the past. OFTEN. And they get old really darn quickly. Tell a Good Story by Drizzt -- on plot. Since I gather your scen has no plot, er, this might be a nice place to start to make one. The Evolving Role of Dungeons by Drizzt -- just another reminder that mindless killing is not great scenario material. From the Scenario Workshop: Common Mistakes in Scenario Design by Jeff Vogel -- see "the big room syndrome." Basic But Vital Tips by TM -- for instance, "Limit your combat." Probably a long, detailed trip to the Lyceum, where BoE has happened for the past six years, would be instructive. Also a good, long look through the articles in the Scenario Workshop and its BoE equivalent would probably do some good. For the BoE articles, you can avoid the more technical specifics, but the articles cited above and several others detail general theory that is just as applicable to BoA as BoE. EDIT: And please, edit that previous message to take out a few of the O's to prevent board stretching. [ Sunday, July 18, 2004 11:32: Message edited by: Just call me Kel ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Sunday, July 18 2004 12:40
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Follow the advices given by your beta testers. No matter what, this will be your worst scenario. Because your second one will be better, and so on. So take your chance to learn as much as you can in this first scenario. :) -------------------- Visit the Blades of Avernum Center and the Beta Testing Center -------------- "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9 Posts: 483 | Registered: Tuesday, June 29 2004 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, July 18 2004 15:41
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I can't get into the hidden town -------------------- Soy sauce makes everything better. Except for Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Soy sauce makes Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders all sticky. And it makes them smell funny. But soy sauce makes everything else better. Just not Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. Posts: 129 | Registered: Sunday, July 4 2004 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Monday, July 19 2004 09:20
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Was searching through your scenario data. Most of your Vahnatai Slings can never work - they're lacking an it_variety and a it_damage_per_level. Same with the Sling of the Hidden City. I don't really think your Hidden City Baton would work right. It's based off the Cursed Javelin and has a -3 level bonus? Hidden City Boots are cursed? Blademaster's Sword doesn't start with a clear; statement, so it imports the data of the Vahnatai Knowledge Brew, which means that it can be used as a +5 skill points potion. Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |