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This poll was enspired by the previous about Hitchhikers Guide to Galaxy.
Since nowadays media industry often unites game-book-movie production in one media stream, I want to know your opinion.
In my experience the movie based on the book always kills the plot. So it is better to watch the movie first, then to read the book to have the necessary explanations.

[ Wednesday, August 02, 2006 22:02: Message edited by: Meeshka ]

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I'd rather just to watch the movie. If I could be bothered, possibly play the game afterwards.

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I always go for the original source first. As far as books based off movies go, I rarely ever read them. There truly is no point.

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Generally whatever comes first is better and the second thing is just a money making ploy.
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Books based on movies are often terrible, so it's better to watch the movie first and then probably never read the book.

Movies based on books can be good or bad, but it's highly unusual for the movie to be better than the book, so it's usually best to read the book first.

In short, start with the thing that came first.

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quote:
Originally written by Tyranicus:

I always go for the original source first. As far as books based off movies go, I rarely ever read them. There truly is no point.
Hm. Not always. There are some exclusions to this rule, though I'd rather agree. For example, I enjoyed "The Highlander" by Christopher Lawrence Mac'Namara, though it was written on the basis of the Highlanders with Christopher Lambert and Highlander Series with Adrian Paul.

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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Movies based on books can be good or bad, but it's highly unusual for the movie to be better than the book, so it's usually best to read the book first.In short, start with the thing that came first.
That's some strange logic for me. If something is bad, then better see it first or never see it at all. If I've read the book, I'll probably be pissed of by a movie, following the book I liked. And the back order makes it more likeable. Because I can read a book with 3D images from the movie :)
So, shortly, bad ideas are better studied before the good ones or not studied at all. That's what I think.

Edit: Sorry for doublepost, I was sure I'm answering the last post, which is not mine. :(

[ Wednesday, August 02, 2006 22:17: Message edited by: Meeshka ]

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quote:
Originally written by Meeshka:

In my experience the movie based on the book always kills the plot. So it is better to watch the movie first, then to read the book to have the necessary explanations.
My exact point. A good example is Harry Potter.

EDIT: If you read the book, don't watch the movie.
If you watch the movie, don't read the book.

[ Thursday, August 03, 2006 02:53: Message edited by: MagmaDragoon ]

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Follow the advertising hype. Watch the movie. Read the book. Memorize the dialog. Join the web board. Collect the action figures. Wear the tatoo. Buy the stock. Or not.

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Hmm. The only movie I can think of that was actually better than the book it was based on was "The Godfather." The book was a mere potboiler; the movie, art.

[ Thursday, August 03, 2006 03:49: Message edited by: Drew ]
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quote:
In my experience the movie based on the book always kills the plot. So it is better to watch the movie first, then to read the book to have the necessary explanations.
If the movie kills the plot, shouldn't it be the other way around? Read the book first to enjoy the plot, then see the movie (and thus avoid having the good plot spoilt by a bad one)...

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Generally, I read what comes first because the other does not exist at the time. When both do exist, and I haven't seen/read either, I just see what kind of a mood I'm in.

I've actually enjoyed the books based on the SW movies. The actual movies, not the EU.

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quote:
Originally written by Drow:

quote:
In my experience the movie based on the book always kills the plot. So it is better to watch the movie first, then to read the book to have the necessary explanations.
If the movie kills the plot, shouldn't it be the other way around? Read the book first to enjoy the plot, then see the movie (and thus avoid having the good plot spoilt by a bad one)...

What's the point of watching the movie then? :) Sometimes the movie has its own plot, rather interesting. Like I watched "Fight Club" first and after read the book. In this order I've seen a nice movie with good actors and read an even more interesting book. Should I read/watch them in other order, I should have read an interesting book and watch a movie, which should make me angry for the lack of information and action. The first way seemes more pleasing for me.

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If I like a movie I'll sometimes read the book to see what it really came from. It isn't always redundant, for example the Jason Bourne movies/books were significantly different. I liked the books more at first, but by the third book I got tired of them.

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As a general rule, I'll watch movies based on books I've read. If I haven't read the book there is a good chance that I haven't read it for a reason and the movie isn't worth seeing anyway. The books are better, so they should be read first.

Books based on other media range from mediocre to garbage. I'll watch the movie and ignore the book entirely.

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I suppose the big exception would be movies based on Philip K. Dick books, which tend to be, if not better than the books, then certainly more accessible.

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Usually the originally source material is better. Some movies bear so little resemblence to the books that they only have a title in common. Wil Smith's I, Robot is an example of a movie that isn't really based on the book.

Movie novelizations are usually based on the movie and add additional material. I haven't read many good novelizations. There are some good books that are based upon source material from movies like the Star Trek series that depends upon the author.
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