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Shock Trooper
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What I think are weird are Windows iPods.

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Law Bringer
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Very true. The iPod is most definitely designed for Macintosh users. The fact that it can play AAC and not WMA proves this. For Windows users, a better choice would probably be the Zen line of media players from Creative Labs. They play WMA and WMV files without conversion and can be synchronized with Windows Media Player 10.

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Law Bringer
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But do they have the iPod's panache? I think not!

—Alorael, who finds it absurd that there are still websites that require IE (or Netscape, usually). The world needs to acknowledge the advent of Firefox. Some love for Safari would be nice too.
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Infiltrator
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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Do you also find the idea of Microsoft Word (and the rest of Office) or Windows Media Player on Macs odd? These programs all exist in Mac versions, too.
I remeber someone telling me that people rather use windows because its more compatibale with everything. Anything you can do on Windows you can do on a Mac but no chance vice versa.

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Infiltrator
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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Do you also find the idea of Microsoft Word (and the rest of Office) or Windows Media Player on Macs odd? These programs all exist in Mac versions, too.
I remeber someone telling me that people rather use windows because its more compatibale with everything. Anything you can do on Windows you can do on a Mac but no chance vice versa.

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By Committee
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Profile #31
quote:
Originally written by Tyranicus:

Very true. The iPod is most definitely designed for Macintosh users. The fact that it can play AAC and not WMA proves this. For Windows users, a better choice would probably be the Zen line of media players from Creative Labs. They play WMA and WMV files without conversion and can be synchronized with Windows Media Player 10.
What sort of logic is that? I guarantee there are more iPod owners using Windows than Macs. AAC is a format type that Apple uses as a part of its business strategy. I'm pretty certain if they wanted to they could adapt iTunes and iPod software to support WMA.
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Law Bringer
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iTunes can convert WMA files, but Creative's players can actually play them without conversion. I fail to see how saying that "everyone has an iPod" can be used to say that they are the best players for Windows. This simply is not true. If you look at it based soley on feature, as opposed to the cultural "OMG teh iPod is so kewl!", Creative makes a better product for Windows users

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Do you also find the idea of Microsoft Word (and the rest of Office) or Windows Media Player on Macs odd? These programs all exist in Mac versions, too.
Office for Macs does not seem odd to me. It is basically the standard for business applications. Internet Exporer is an integral part of Windows though.

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Shaper
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Profile #33
Except Zen players are massively enormous and freeze all the time.

Still, I like it. No stupid circular interface.

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Law Bringer
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Profile Homepage #34
Mine has never frozen on me, and the newest ones are about the same size as iPods. I think I'll stop now though. If sing any more praises, don't hesitate to silence me. :P

[ Saturday, April 29, 2006 08:39: Message edited by: Tyranicus ]

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quote:
Originally written by Cairo Jim:

quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Do you also find the idea of Microsoft Word (and the rest of Office) or Windows Media Player on Macs odd? These programs all exist in Mac versions, too.
I remeber someone telling me that people rather use windows because its more compatibale with everything. Anything you can do on Windows you can do on a Mac but no chance vice versa.

Isn't the reason for that that simply more people use Windows? Why make something for relatively few users when you could make something for more users?
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Law Bringer
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quote:
Originally written by Easel of Utility:

Some love for Safari would be nice too.
Yay Safari! Almost as good as Firefox!

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Posts: 4130 | Registered: Friday, March 26 2004 08:00
Infiltrator
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quote:
Originally written by dareva:

quote:
Originally written by Cairo Jim:

quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Do you also find the idea of Microsoft Word (and the rest of Office) or Windows Media Player on Macs odd? These programs all exist in Mac versions, too.
I remeber someone telling me that people rather use windows because its more compatibale with everything. Anything you can do on Windows you can do on a Mac but no chance vice versa.

Isn't the reason for that that simply more people use Windows? Why make something for relatively few users when you could make something for more users?

Macs are more reliable. They have less, if at any, viruses. They seem to go as fast as a Windows machine at least three times the processor speed.

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Councilor
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Ah, the good old Macs vs. Windows debate. :P

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Law Bringer
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Profile Homepage #39
quote:
Originally written by Cairo Jim:

They seem to go as fast as a Windows machine at least three times the processor speed.
Au contraire, that is no longer true. Now that Macs and PCs use the same processors, speed is as much a factor for Macs as it is for PCs. Also, the clock rate of a processor means very little these days anyway. What really matters is the front-side bus speed.

[ Saturday, April 29, 2006 20:51: Message edited by: Tyranicus ]

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Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #40
quote:
Originally written by Tyranicus:

Now that Macs and PCs use the same processors, speed is as much a factor for Macs as it is for PCs. Also, the clock rate of a processor means very little these days anyway. What really matters is the front-side bus speed.
If there were any such quick and easy way to determine speed, benchmarks wouldn't exist. They do, and Macs still seem to perform better than their numbers would indicate, or so I have been led to believe.

Of course, there are also claims that Mac hardware running Windows with Boot Camp outperform "comparable" PC hardware. That seems rather odd.

—Alorael, who hopes someone will investigate the placebo effect in computing. Does attaching an Apple logo inspire processors to greater efforts?
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Shock Trooper
Member # 125
Profile #41
I really don't want this to degenerate into a flamewar, so I'll be careful here, and advise others to do the same. Disclaimer: I am a Mac person, and I don't know that much about the other side of the fence.

I'm not sure how a current Mac compares to a similarly equipped Core Duo-based system from another manufacturer (which is probably what you're talking about), but I do know that on a Mac some software runs faster on Windows (through Boot Camp) than natively on OS X, and sometimes it's the other way around. This is likely because of differing amounts of optimization, though operating system efficiency might come into play. It is interesting that we can now compare OS X and Windows on the same machine, and this may provide insight into the speed of the inner workings of the systems.

I like the idea of an Apple logo placebo effect. However, maybe it's more sinister than that: Steve Jobs places a piece of his soul inside every logo, and his legendary mercurial management technique scares the hardware into performing better. Separate components actually influence each other to work harder, since the logic board (for example) won't have much fun if the power supply gets fired.

I guess we could test this effect by using those stickers that they give you with a new Mac; however, they're likely to be less potent, and may simply employ mind control to influence viewers to buy more Macs. Ack, now I'm thinking of an RPG where there are magic Apple logos enchanted with special properties: rainbow grants an armor bonus (or maybe the metallic on the tank-like G5 tower should do that..), an Aqua bubble logo allows the user to walk on water, and so on.

Hm, I seem to have wandered rather far from whatever I meant to say when I started this post. Perhaps I should stop now.

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Infiltrator
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Profile Homepage #42
quote:
Originally written by Erika Maroonmark:

What I think are weird are Windows iPods.
Are you kidding me? How blasphemous...

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Dollop of Whipped Cream
Member # 391
Profile Homepage #43
quote:
Originally written by Erika Maroonmark:

What I think are weird are Windows iPods.
I think that comment was weird. 99% of the people I know, irl, have windows. And at least 80% of them have ipods. Although, honestly, now that I think about it: we are all a bunch of weirdos!

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Shock Trooper
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Profile #44
quote:
Originally written by Croikle:

I like the idea of an Apple logo placebo effect. However, maybe it's more sinister than that: Steve Jobs places a piece of his soul inside every logo, and his legendary mercurial management technique scares the hardware into performing better. Separate components actually influence each other to work harder, since the logic board (for example) won't have much fun if the power supply gets fired.
...see, now I'm thinking about those Intel Inside logos.

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Posts: 364 | Registered: Saturday, January 17 2004 08:00
Shock Trooper
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Profile #45
But aren't there any number of MP3 players that work with Windows? Will porting iTunes and iPods to Windows help Apple that much? Because if iTunes is so great, there's one less perk of having a Mac…

[ Sunday, April 30, 2006 06:53: Message edited by: Erika Maroonmark ]

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A C, an E-flat, and a G walk into the Tower of the Magi.
Ambrin walks up to them and says, "Hey! It's the Triad!"
Kelner snorts and says, "Pretty minor Triad if you ask me."
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Off With Their Heads
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Phrase that question in the past tense. Apple already ported iTunes to Windows and made iPods compatible with it. I think it's fairly safe to say that it did help Apple's business, given how much money they've made off of selling iPods to Windows-users without an appreciable decline in Mac sales.

In fact, I think that, statistically, buying an iPod makes a person more likely to buy a Mac, not less.

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Yawn...the old debate bores me to tears. I have no feeling one way or another, as I have used Macs for years and currently have a rather crotchety laptop running Win XP. It does what I want it to do, and that's all that I ask. If someone wishes to buy me a new Mac for comparison purposes, I won't say no to it.
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I like the computer where I can type on a keyboard and do the thingies and play games and see and hear what I do and things.
I use the kind that does that.

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