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Hola. I don't know if anyone still remembers the name... hey to the old members, hi to the new ones. Spiderweb still thrives. :cool:

I've come back from the grave to ask for help for a school project I'm doing, and I hope I could get something from this forum. I've posted it on one or two others, too...

I've been given an assignment to come up with some predictions on a day in the life of a high school student would be 50 years from now (i.e., what technology would be available), in 2056. My teacher said that to help the class get an idea of how much things can change, we're to look back at the past 50 years and see how much had changed since then. Indeed, a lot has changed: Who would've thought in the 1950's that there would be personal computers everywhere and information available at our fingertips? Or cellular phones that enable us to communicate almost anytime, anywhere? And this is only in 50 years...

I'm here to ask those who were in high school fifty years ago, more or less. What was a day in your life like? What did you expect the future would be like? What kind of technology was available then, that is changed nowadays?

Also you don't have to have been in high school back then to answer. If anyone had predictions/expectations for the future not just during the 50's, please feel free to share your ideas. I know there's a lot of young people here but there's also a good number of older people. But anyone could've had expectations. I'm basically trying to get an idea of how far things can really go compared to how far we expect things to go, and I'll apply that to my predictions for the next 50 years.

I'd appreciate any and all help. Thanks guys. :)

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If we use the last 50 years as an example, we learn one primary moral- the rich will continue to get better stuff, and some of that will trickle down to the poor, but as technology grows higher and higher, less and less of that technology will improve the lives of the poor.

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quote:
Originally written by Undine:

I'm here to ask those who were in high school fifty years ago, more or less.
So you want to find the septuagenarian Eskimo then, right?

But anyway, my 2 cents on the future: We'll all be walking a lot more than we do now.

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quote:
Originally written by Undine:

I'm here to ask those who were in high school fifty years ago, more or less. What was a day in your life like? What did you expect the future would be like? What kind of technology was available then, that is changed nowadays?

Most of us, probably all of us, were not even born 40 years ago.

But, anyway:

In 50 years we will al live in space, like the Gap series. :ph34r:

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It's as likely that the answers are found in Asimov or Pohl.

There probably won't be school, but instead education centers. Pay your bucks and get implanted with the knowledge you need. Indeed, the rich will get richer.

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quote:
Originally written by Prometheus:

If we use the last 50 years as an example, we learn one primary moral- the rich will continue to get better stuff, and some of that will trickle down to the poor, but as technology grows higher and higher, less and less of that technology will improve the lives of the poor.
Well go figure, do you expect the poor to pay for what the people who invent this stuff give them?
Hell no.

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Originally written by Spring:

Most of us, probably all of us, were not even born 40 years ago.
For having been here a year, you are disturbingly uninformed. I can list about 4 members right now who are over 50, and I know there are some I forgot about.

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Originally written by Infernal666hate:

Well go figure, do you expect the poor to pay for what the people who invent this stuff give them?
Hell no.

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On second thought, it'd be better to let TM come up with a response to that. When it comes to communism, I'm out of my debating territory.

[ Monday, February 27, 2006 12:52: Message edited by: Arancaytar the Grey ]

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The most careful and insightful approach to this question will reveal only that it is impossible to predict 50 years. So make up anything you like. A bit of arguing for the plausibility of whatever it is will be quite as much intellectual rigour as this question deserves.

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Nobody enters high school at birth. Although some people are in high school while very young, I'd say it's fair to assume that most people who were in high school half a century ago are in the 65-70 range.

—Alorael, who assumes that the world in 50 years will be as alien as today would be to someone 50 years ago. Trying to predict it is likely to work in some places and fail radically in others. Predicting universal computers with word processing and widespread laptops from ENIAC is a difficult task.
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If you look back fifty years, you'll see that the biggest changes were things that hadn't been slightly thought of back then, and changes they did expect either didn't happen or progressed at a far slower rate. We don't have flying cars, but we do have the internet.

Based on these trends, any idea we have now of the technology of 50 years time will be completely, laughably wrong.

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I predict that someone will have invented a box, and on this box is an image of a place. When you touch the box you go to that place. What you really do is get downloaded into the box. You appear in a virtual recreation of that place. What's more the place doesn't even have to be real.

Also they will be able to download everything you'll learn from pre-school to college onto an incredibly compact disc, so to say. This disc can plug itself onto your forehead, and using the plug download this information into your brain.

But that's just a guess. :D :P :rolleyes: ;)

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quote:
Originally written by Chocolateking:

I predict that someone will have invented a box, and on this box is an image of a place. When you touch the box you go to that place. What you really do is get downloaded into the box. You appear in a virtual recreation of that place. What's more the place doesn't even have to be real.
Downloaded into the box? You know, someone would be tempted to liberally apply magnets to said box, resulting in the poor downloaded soul being erased.

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Originally written by Chocolateking:

Also they will be able to download everything you'll learn from pre-school to college onto an incredibly compact disc, so to say. This disc can plug itself onto your forehead, and using the plug download this information into your brain.
Possible outcomes:
1) The person's brain would promptly be fried by the information overload.
2) The disc-plugging-into-your-brain would inevitably be adapted for recreational use, possibly surpassing skribbane as a form of escapism.
3) Some radical terrorist group would sabotage the discs so they could brainwash people who were foolhardy enough to use them.
4) Some error (or possibly another terrorist-type aggressor) would corrupt the discs so that ordinarily productive people would become mentally-broken freaks of nature upon plugging in.
5) Microsoft would gain control of the project, causing everyone who plugged in to crash every five minutes.
6) Google would take control of the project, and the verb "to Google" would take on new and uncalled-for meanings.
7) The governments of the world would take control of the project, instituting a thought-control police state via methods already covered in 3).

Or, my personal favorite...

8) All of the above.

The moral of the story: think about the consequences of stupid inventions before they have a chance to become real. Only you can prevent stupidity. :D

EDIT: Post #1111! That feels... I don't know, significant?

[ Monday, February 27, 2006 15:13: Message edited by: Ephesos ]

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Maybe in 50 years everyone will carry a portable super-computer to school that is capable of projecting its display across our natural vision via selective stimulation of optic nerves.

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If you want to see predictions of the future made 50 years ago, read the 1950s science fiction. :) According to most of those novels we should at least be able to vocation on Mars and at most be able to live anywhere in the galaxy by now.

As for current predictions of the future, Ray Kurzweil's books are probably closest to what you are looking for. He is either a very optimistic scientist or a very realistic sci-fi writer, depending on how you want to see his books.

Kurzweil is predicting that growth in computing power will continue indefinitely at ever accelerating rate: after reaching the physical limits of semiconductor chips, we will move on to quantum computing, or something similar. This means that computers will reach raw computational capacity of human brain by about 2020. After that, he predicts that people will start using computers to augment their brains first using implants to get 20/20 vision, perfect memory, etc. and then completely replacing their biological bodies with artificial ones. [Insert your favorite Borg joke here.] :)

Kurzweil himself expects this change to happen within his lifetime and seriously thinks that he will live forever with an artificial body.

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Let's put this succinctly: In 2056, everyone will bramver their neoprocs often, sometimes up to every two minutes. Klebs will be using both LORMs and KP-MVMs, while proddies will prefer ViWells.

—Alorael, who wishes he had a neoproc. Or at least a proc. Waiting for the future is so frustrating.
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quote:
Originally written by Infernal666hate:

Well go figure, do you expect the poor to pay for what the people who invent this stuff give them?
Hell no.

I agree.

Because it's clearly the poor's fault that they can't adequately compensate the poor, maligned inventors whose only benefit was a vastly superior and incalculably more expensive education that enabled them to create the devices that only help the worthy portions of humanity.

I wonder, though. If we invent a cure for death, could you consider putting a price on it tantamount to a new holocaust?

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In 50 years time, we will all be dead from global warming.
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quote:
Originally written by The Stew Boy:

In 50 years time, we will all be dead from global warming.
I don't know to call that pessimistic or realistic, so I'll call it both. My opinion is that someone will create a way to prevent global warming, I hope.

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quote:
Originally written by Chocolateking:

quote:
Originally written by The Stew Boy:

In 50 years time, we will all be dead from global warming.
I don't know to call that pessimistic or realistic, so I'll call it both. My opinion is that someone will create a way to prevent global warming, I hope.

That'd have to be something fantastically revolutionary.

Such as... I don't know... switching to non-fossil fuels? :eek:

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It'll probably be safe to predict that 50 years from now Spiderweb forums will be relatively the same.

Thanks a lot guys! This really helped me out, and as always the posts are amazing. :D Hope to come back as a regular again one day, it's been a while...

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Actually, I didn't see much help in most of the posts. Then again, it would be impossible to give you much help. It would all come down to your creativity, and what you'd think it could happen next. Just do a bit of research on technologies that are being worked on as we speak and won't be done for a couple of years. And then you could take them to the next level.
And I beg you; please do not say anything about flying cars. I swear that if I see another movie with flying cars I'm going to go mad.

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Originally written by Prometheus:

I agree.

Because it's clearly the poor's fault that they can't adequately compensate the poor, maligned inventors whose only benefit was a vastly superior and incalculably more expensive education that enabled them to create the devices that only help the worthy portions of humanity.

I wonder, though. If we invent a cure for death, could you consider putting a price on it tantamount to a new holocaust?

Whether or not it's their fault, they still can't pay for the product, to put it simply, if you can't pay for a pizza, are you going to get a pizza? The "vastly superior and incalcuably more expensive education" is irrelevant.

In answer to your question, no. Are we killing now? Will be killing in the future? Or will we be preventing death?

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Originally written by Infernal666hate:

In answer to your question, no. Are we killing now? Will be killing in the future? Or will we be preventing death?
But it's practically the same thing when you're deciding who gets to live and who gets to die based on who can afford it. It's dooming people to die when they can't pay to live, which is as semantically close to killing them as possible.

EDIT: I hate quote tags.

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Originally written by Ephesos:

But it's practically the same thing when you're deciding who gets to live and who gets to die based on who can afford it. It's dooming people to die when they can't pay to live, which is as semantically close to killing them as possible.

EDIT: I hate quote tags.

No it isn't, people won't be born with the guarantee that they will live forever then just as we aren't born today with the guarantee that we will live forever. If scientists provide a substance that will allow people to live forever, it's not the inherent right of the people who who purchased it, it's something they've bought. If I may use another commonplace example, are you born with the guarantee that you will own a car or do you have to buy one in order to own it?

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Why would you want to live forever? It would be so boring and depressing, especially if others died but you didn't. And overpopulation is bad enough already.

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