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So wait, ADoS- what's your area of obsession?

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Yeah, Salmon said it more politely than I. Basically, my contention is that defining people who exhibit a certain set of behaviours as having a "disorder" tends to harm them because they're then perceived as different, separated from the rest of humanity by a biological chasm that cannot be bridged. Considering that most "developmental disorders" and "personality disorders" have no effective treatment, I just don't see any advantage in defining a group of people as having such disorders.

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A diagnose may open much needed space for individual development, as parents tend to stop blaming their offspring for perceived 'misbehaviour' once they hear it, instead start to support their kids.

Away from that, you are right. A diagnose creates a shelter that may be necessary, but is of course a limitation in itself.

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My special talent is football.

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quote:
Originally written by ef:

A diagnose may open much needed space for individual development, as parents tend to stop blaming their offspring for perceived 'misbehaviour' once they hear it, instead start to support their kids.
This, I suppose, is a fair point. If people had a greater ability to distinguish behaviour that's genuinely harmful and needs to be changed from behaviour which is merely unusual, though, it wouldn't be necessary.

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quote:
Originally written by Mister Mooben:

I believe it's a huge smile. If you visualize, you'll get the meaning.

^______________^

I am aware of that. I was asking for the reason of the smile. No one grins that broadly without a reason.

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quote:
Originally written by Salmon Sushi:

And I forgive him for living in Reveah, as he probably didn't make that choice.
WTF

Anyway, Asperger's is more than just difficulty with social situations. Symptoms similar to ADHD and Bipolar Disorder are also part of it, and those can be treated.

[ Monday, June 20, 2005 02:28: Message edited by: The Almighty Doer of Stuff ]

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If there were a lot more public knowledge about autism/Asperger's, it might make the lives of people who fall into that spectrum a lot easier. We make allowances for people who have obvious physical problems, such as mobility or obvious sensory difficulties, but such conditions as Asperger's are invisible, and thus often unacknowledged.

There really is a different set of rules in dealing with people on this spectrum: punishment is pretty much pointless, excitement and surprises are often painful to them, and the world can be a difficult and confusing place.

On the other hand, the same quirks that make life hard can allow them to see things in a way that can allow them to reach solutions that are invisible to others.

Understanding that syndrome, and describing it, can put a harmful label on people with Asperger's but on the other hand it can help to understand why peole behave the way they do, and predict that they will react in unusual ways sometimes to stimuli that would be unproblematic for other people.

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I'm talented in pretty much everything except singing. :)
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Fencing. You get to stick people with sharp(okay, not that sharp) objects(well, swords, and daggers). How much better does it get? Oh, and I guess I'm an okay musician. I wouldn't have gotten into my high school if I wasn't...

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I can wiggle my ears. I can also sing in a pretty pure tenor voice, though the higher end of my range has diminished a bit over the years due to neglect.
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Very insightful, Saunders. Do you know someone on the autism spectrum?
Oh, by the way, TM, my area of obsession is probably video games, particularly RPGs and platformers. I've loved video games since I first saw them. I've been coming up with and developing ideas for games since I was little (although when I was little they were really dumb). I've even memorized a large amount of background music from old Genesis video games. I hope to make games for a living, actually.

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Originally written by ADoS:

WTF

Ahh. I've lived in Winthrop and Charlestown, and for some reason we always made fun of Reveah. Not the inhabitants, just the place. And the name. Always felt it was ironic to revere a town apparently consists of a long road between apartment buildings and the beach, where cruising is the main activity. Anyhow, nothing meant by the statement.

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Oh, okay. I thought you were making another one of those "Revere people have guns" comments that we get all the time. If you were, I'd have to shoot you. :P
People from the upper-class neighborhoods, with their prep schools and wealth, always make fun of Revere and stereotype it as some sort of ghetto. Just because we have blacks, hispanics, and asians doesn't mean we're a ghetto. People here generally get along with one another, and it's quite a nice place to live, as long as you avoid Shirley Ave. The rate of serious crimes is pretty low around here, actually, as far as I'm aware. While teachers usually try to avoid teaching in Revere based on these stereotypes. But those brave enough to take a job here realize we're usually a great bunch of people.

EDIT: By the way, the name "Revere" comes not from the word meaning "to honor or respect", but from Paul Revere.

As for talents, I can sing well and I'm good at writing stories.

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The subject of the conversation has deviated from virtue to crime. How ironic.
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I actually hadn't heard the guns thing. But now I know...

The place I lived at in C-town was pretty run-down, but at $200 a month I didn't care. The funny bit was the old guy across the street that just sat on his porch all day. Many people came up to visit or "get advice" from him, and I eventually figured out he was some Irish don. So when I found a .32 caliber pistol in my place I just gave it to him. He accepted it and made it disappear. In retrospect, I should have kept the thing, but at the time I was 100% sure it had been used in some crime or another.

Edit - Somehow I posted before finishing the post. Some talent...

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[ Monday, June 20, 2005 11:25: Message edited by: Salmon Sushi ]
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Which weapon do you fence with Nicothodes? I'm a sabreur, although I don't lay claim to any great aptitude for it.

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Constantly having a ****ty opinion.

All I can think of right now is the incredible profoundness of subtle messages in assorted old SCUMM adventure games.

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I knew some one who had austism at my old school. It was very severe, he couldn't write or read any proper books and he could hardly talk. He now can read fairly well and can speak sort of fluently. He is very good at puzzles and the like.

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quote:
Originally written by Arancaytar:

quote:
Originally written by Mister Mooben:

I believe it's a huge smile. If you visualize, you'll get the meaning.

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I am aware of that. I was asking for the reason of the smile. No one grins that broadly without a reason.

Saunders does. Anything is a good reason for her to grin broadly.

EDIT: Saunders is now of rightful gender.

[ Monday, June 20, 2005 15:38: Message edited by: Mister Mooben ]

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Saunders is a her, sir.

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*ahem*

Oh, s'cuse me. Sorry.

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So another | for Ben then.

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Shaper
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quote:
Originally written by Salmon Sushi:

So another | for Ben then.
Ben got the VINS FISZ MARK, so additional black marks seems redundant.

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quote:
Originally written by ef:

A diagnose may open much needed space for individual development, as parents tend to stop blaming their offspring for perceived 'misbehaviour' once they hear it, instead start to support their kids.

Away from that, you are right. A diagnose creates a shelter that may be necessary, but is of course a limitation in itself.

Being placed in a special class in 5 years where the working pace was decreased and therefore did not suit my learning pace at all was not really what I needed. Even if I had a diagnos on "Extremly high intelligence" I would still be treated as a retard. It was when I got into high school the teachers realized that my need for "special treatment" was not existing at all.

As Thuryl, ef and "The Salmon-lad", a diagnos prevents people from focusing on the individual itself. This I have experienced for almost half of my life until recently when I figured out a way to get use of this useless diagnos which only has given many years and memories of bullies.

About my talents before... I forgot to add about my bicycling. ;) I can drive 40km/h on a straight road. 50km/h on a down-hill and 15-20km/h on an up-hill.

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