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Saying that the human body is beautiful and saying it can't be pornographic are two different things. That infamous goatse is quite clearly the latter, and I defy you to twist (or untwist) it into the former.

—Alorael, who will be forced to insist that the human body can be sexual. There are five thousands registered members on these forums, and I very much doubt that all of them were the result of artificial insemination, spontaneous generation, storks, and immaculate conception.
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it annoys me also when people refuse to judge others of their own sex. and gay people arent neceserily stupid. it is just the way people began using the word, as a swear and now that somwehow forces them to see gays as stupid or something morraly wrong. i am not saying i am gay but i might become gay in the long run cuz noone seems to want to go out with me (cuz i talk about perverted things too much? :confused: ). and just puting my opinion on the table i would like to say that maybe gays are just smarter than all of us since we have established in an earlier thread that girls are the root of all evil. and now that you put it in sipler terms i understand and agree with you pencil dragon.

P.S. this hot russian girl :) might be comming over to my place to visit and if any of you have any suggestions on how i might impress ;) her i am open and ready to listen.

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quote:
Originally written by Effervescently Ebullient:

Saying that the human body is beautiful and saying it can't be pornographic are two different things.
I don't believe that Mung meant that the human body can never be interpreted in a sexual or pornographic sense. I think he was just pointing out the fact that aesthetic beauty can be separated from sexual attraction at times, namely when a heterosexual man such as myself is able to judge a fellow man to be handsome. At least that's the point I was attempting to establish.

EDIT: As a disclaimer, though, he was a bit more strident in his statements than I was, so I may be wrong regarding his points. It seems as though he's claiming that the sight of even a beautiful, unclothed woman inspires only aesthetic appreciation in him, not sexual arousal. I'll make no such claim myself. ;)

[ Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:22: Message edited by: This Glass Is Half Stugie ]

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quote:
Originally written by This Glass Is Half Stugie:

It's no accident that I'm a lifelong Mac user.
I never thought that had anything to do with it...

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quote:
Originally written by Effervescently Ebullient:

—Alorael, who will be forced to insist that the human body can be sexual. There are five thousands registered members on these forums, and I very much doubt that all of them were the result of artificial insemination, spontaneous generation, storks, and immaculate conception.
No. Multiple account registration. :P

Edit: Sorry, sorry. I didn't mean to post again...

[ Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:24: Message edited by: Daryl Mycroft [Arancaytar] ]

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Doesn't it? Windows has done a lot to catch up with Apple in the area of aesthetics in interface, but OSX blows XP clear out of the water in this category. Apple has always been at the forefront of things in graphics, and that's unlikely to change anytime soon.

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I claim spontaneous generation.

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I'm guessing that no more than 500 accounts are duplicates. That still leaves 5000 real members. Some may not have posted, but they're members.

—Alorael, who has recently come to appreciate even more Sherlock and other Mac finding tools. Trying to find a lost thing on a PC isn't fun.
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Trying to find a lost thing on a PC isn't fun.
Should be easy though.

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To Waffle Guy: Re hot russian girl. My two cents:

Find out if she already has a boyfriend. If she does this doesn't mean you still can't try to woo her but you will need to work harder at it and will have less chance of success.

Watch Hitch. If you can't before she arrives maybe consider asking her to go to it with you. (pick up the bill!)

Learn to say 'Hello, you are very beautiful.' in Russian. This will not only tell her you are interested but should also be an ice breaker. (Note: Make sure she speaks Russian first.)

Write out a list of questions to ask her about herself so that conversation can flow freely. If she doesn't ask you the same question tell her the answer anyway. That way she's learning about you as you learn about her. Family, Friends, Interest, Occupation(School): these are the four basics when it comes to learning about someone.

Keep the perversion to a minimum. That's the kind of thing you talk about with friends, not girlfriends. (At least not until you find out how perverted she is herself)

Have a small gift already bought. Flowers, chocolates, small stuffed animal. If she shows signs of liking you bring it out and tell her you got it for her. Fore-thought is akin to fore-play IMHO.

Stealing a line from Hitch, (paraphrase)"There is no woman, on any given day, at any given time, at any given place, who does not want to be swept off of their feet."

Happy courting. :)

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to gizmo: i see that i might need to update u on what has been going on. we see each other about 3 times a year for about a week each time, we met because our parents worked at the same job and they were both russian so we both also speak fluent russian. we have known each other for a few years now and i havent had any guts to ask her out yet (until now). is Hitch realy a good movie? cuz i had the impression that it wasnt that funny (or was it romantic?) although that is a good line that u proposed to me, tnx i'll try to use it :D

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Don't worry if Hitch is good or not. It's popular, it's a Romantic film. Might make for a good date film. . . although. . . since you already know her, you might want to do something a little different than the American Tradition of dinner/movie, besides movies suck in general.

Maybe you can go to some cool spot that you think (or better yet, know) that she might like. Not IHOP, though IHOP rules and all. But not IHOP.

I've heard, don't know nothing about this, that setting can help make an evening more romantic.

Or, you can rent and watch "Braindead" which is among the 5 best boy meets girl, falls in love and lives happily ever after films ever made, according to some people.

Agh. Just skip the movie and go someplace nice.

(I agree with just about 100% of what Stuggie's said. Too lazy to quote it.)

(oh, and I claim immaculate contraception.)

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I loved it and Hubby said it was good which means it was too mushy for him but it holds a lot of truths about relationships. The most basic truth is that any girl is ready to fall for any guy if that guy is willing to show her he cares. And that no woman really wants to be alone even if they say they want to be alone. (as in unattached not 'leave me alone for a minute')

I would agree, though, that if you know her well you should skip the movie. 'Awe and inspire'is another point from the movie. If you think she's worth it then dig deep and plan something big. Take her as a friend and while you're there tell her you want to be more then a friend. Tell her /deep breath now/ how you feel. Scary, yes I know, but us women eat it up.

Also from the movie. '8 out of 10 women believe that they can learn everything they need to know about their relationship with a guy by the first kiss' and 'you go in 90% and let her come in 10%' (for the kiss).

I think it would benefit you (and when I say you, I mean all guys looking to woo a woman) to see the movie for yourself. I don't remember laughing too many times but watching Will Smith show (forget his name for the moment... the guy in King of Queens) how to do the 90%/10% was absolutely hillarious. Even after seeing a bit in the trailers.

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quote:
Originally written by This Glass Is Half Stugie:

It's no accident that I'm a lifelong Mac user.
God, you've no idea how funney that was:D

1. Alorael, I would never deny that the hunan body can be sexual. I never said that. I simply said that it can be seen as a thing of beauty, not as a carnal desire in it's self. If you look at it from the stand point of simply observing rather then coveting, or watching the subtle moves of the limbs and the effect a breath has on the entire body...it's amazing to see...
I never would say that I can resist the thoughts of a sexual nature or any other nature when I do look a at a female, but I also have to appreciate the ability, the possibility, everything that the form possesses, that also relates to the male body. Although I tend to look at that without the significant sexual afterthoughts :P

2. Thank you Waffle, I see your point as well. In my psychology class it's been infered that homosexuality is not exactly a choice, rather it's in teh genes. That even if a child grew up in a home with two same sex parents then their inclination towards homosexuality would be the same as any other. I don't intend to get into that debate though, but I see your point. The inability to appreciate not only your own standpoint, but that of another, (say male viewing female as opposed to male viewing male) is a significant downside of the culture of today. We seem to think that to have any such thought about the attractiveness of a member of the same sex as taboo. Why? I ask you. THere is no reason that we can't move beyond what we think as a social suiside and think such things. This comes from a guy with no inclinations towards homosexuality and no particularly female tendancies. I'm a male male. So if I'm willing to put myself at risk to be flamed as a "fag" then god damn it, whoever say it has missed the point of this topic completly.

As for the girl Waffle, that takes time and inclination to be able to avaoid makeing an ass of yourself in front of a girl. It can be broken down into a few points with some effort...*Don't make an ass of yourself...*Don't do anything vulgar or repulsive...*Don't be a macho d*ck (can I say that?)...*DOn't expect things to happen right away, she's not going to throw herself on you if you flash a shinny smile and flex your muscles...*Be able to hold a conversation, that is, be able to have a meaningful discision, don't just take her side if you guys actually get into an intresting topic, and don't stare at her chest the whole time...*just play nice...That last one's the most important:D

3. Yes TGiHS, I intended to note the seperation of each, not that lack of sexual desire...simply that it is possible to have a different view then just the physical aspect. Think of it in terms as your female friends. And I stress the word friends. You may see them as attractive individuals yet it's not really a physical attraction. You all must have some relatinship like that, right? ANd I make no such claim either:D An uncloathed female would quite definatley...set the mood. yet I also ment to establish the fact that interpretation in not only sexual. Take Hentai for example. It's porn, correct, ment for sexual arousal. yet do you think that the artists only put that much thought into it? if so they could draw two circles with a line below them and call that set. No, the truly great images of Hentai...the good stuff...it's art...True and simple. It may be conceived in porn, yet it's art. Time, has been spent on it to make it more then a simple piece of paper and ink...

4. My attraction to apples ( forgive the pun with attraction:) is the ability to do anything that you want with them from a single program if you know what you're doing. With mac you have to enter DOS and progress through masses of code and etc. Apple's have some of teh same stuff, but not as much I think...their more customizable I suppose...

5. Reply to Gixmo's reply to Waffle.
Yah, that is a good point. Any attractive girl is bound to have a boyfriend or an intrest at least unless there is something wrong with her or on the other hand she dosn't want a relatioship...then you're screwed...NO MAN can change the mind of a woman from the outside of a relationship...it's not possible.
Nifty idea...take her to a movie like that...
:D makeing sure she can speak a language you choose to compliment her in is quite esential. You really don't want to get her confused around you> Keep yourself as plain as possible yet intresting. Mysterious always helps yet not stalker type mysterious.
AS for the list of questions...YES...when entering a situation that you have no previous knowledge of PLAN...
Girls can have their own kinkyness, that's so very true. But from the start keep it on the low...try to appear sweet if at all possible...that helps. I have lost count of the girls (friends, not interests) that consider me just a big teddy bear that they can lay on...and I'm not complaining. Which brings me to another point...make her feel safe...that, above all is important. IT's given me many a wonderful moment with girls. And not simply in a sexual way.
Gifts are good too:D
Forethought is akin to fore-play...well damn, that's funney:D
And the quote is true...women love to be flirted with and loved. Even with a boyfriend she'll enjoy you more if she knows there's some attraction. Just make sure she knows theres no obligation.

6. Now to waffle...Well, seems like you have a case for a fling, not an actual relationship...small problem there...long distance relationships are quite hard to make and to hold.

7...too much stuff said already so go with what they said...if ya know here you can skip the movie thing...although I love sitting at home on a couch with a girl next to ya...but hey...what do I know:D

Seilike...kick ass pic:D SOme people simply hate hentai:D

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Why do humans make such a big deal over nudity? Even if it's non-sexual people can't help but look. I'm guilty of that my self. A nude person walking around is just not a common sight. That is probably the reason it is too much for people to handle. If I go to a nude hot spring or some place like that nobody is sexual about it, but they do stare.

Art and porn are two terms that tend to be very misused. The overly uptight see art as porn, and porn stars in denial call themselves artists. I understand young males being overly excited about nude females, it's elevated hormonal levels. I am not a lesbian, but I don't have a problems saying a female's face or body is beautiful, or for that matter saying a male is hansom without lust involved in it.

Humans have wonderful bodies, They are more complex than any other species on earth. What we have today isn't so bad though, 100 even 50 years ago people were really uptight about human form or sexuality for that matter.

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tnx for the tips Pencildragon. why does it say every time i click on the link that the website cant be found?

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Humans have wonderful bodies, They are more complex than any other species on earth. What we have today isn't so bad though, 100 even 50 years ago people were really uptight about human form or sexuality for that matter.[/QB]
Compared to what we had around 500-600 years ago...?

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Titillation aside, a nude person gets a great deal of attention just like someone wearing purple and green velvet robes and carrying a monkey would get attention. Things that stand out from the ordinary get noticed. If everyone were nude all the time it wouldn't be so much of a stare magnet, but then imagine how someone with a shirt and pants on would stand out!

—Alorael, who disagrees that humans are the most complex species (physically, at least). Do you think you could handle walking with more than two legs? How about more than six? Plus humans don't have shiny carapaces, obvious segmentation, or bulbous compound eyes. All that may be an acquired taste, though...
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I've heard it said that if humans are the height of mental evolution, the big cats are the height of physical evolution.

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Not being able to translate whalesong, and realizing blue whales have the largest brain ratio to body weight, we cannot guarantee we are the height of mental evolution.

We are the height of technological evolution.

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we also have the biggest egos, humans will always feel themselves superior. I think higher evolved animals have a kind of intelligence that we simply don't understand (as stated above.)

500-600 years ago, I guess it would depend on what part of the world you be born to.

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some of us have accepted the fact that we arent really superior. i have accepted the fact that i am no better than a waffle while dolphin accepted that he is no better than a water mammal and pencildragon is no better than a drawing

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Humans tend to make such a big deal over nudity for just the reason you said Dolphin. They’re not used to it. It’s not a socially accepted norm of things. To see a person walking about with nothing on in not only considered culturally wrong, but generally illegal. And it’s not entirely our fault. For generations people have had an aversion to nudity. It’s slowly being worn away but it still exists in vast amounts. It’s a sort of prejudice I suppose.
I also understand your point dealing with the misuse of art and porn. I think that it depends on the effort and the time involved though. In a weird twisted way I would consider some porn art as it is. I find the human body wonderful…so…yeah, I see your point though.
Complexity has it’s own set of definitions. The human body lacks complexity when considered against the ability and movement of a, for example, arachnid, yet when compared to it’s far predecessors it’s an amazing machine.
Humans are also the only creatures that hone their bodies to whatever they expect to be doing. Muscles can be adapted, eyesight improved, nerves held in check. And just as equally, skin whitens, eyes become sensitive, finger muscles increase and hand-eye coordination is at an all time high ( :P ) The complexity is in the adaptability…
You’re welcome Waffle. The link was to a bit of quotation from a Mr. Terry Pratchet, one of my favorite authors along with Piers Anthony. I can only wonder why the link didn’t work…but as for now…I’ve forgotten it :D sorry… His books are great though if you like humor and fantasy…

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Compared to what we had around 500-600 years ago...?[/QB]
Hrmm…well…you do have your point. I wonder what exactly was the turning point of the culture. What exactly was it that made us as we are…interesting…

And Alorael’s on the same page I am. If it was socially acceptable then no one would care. As it is…they tend to be rather…interested…

Humans are the epitome of advancement. Whether that’s mental, evolutionary, or technological I can’s say, but that’s what I think. And I agree about big cats. Probably why all my recent RPG characters have been of the feline persuasion…I should try a dog…

Perhaps the higher mental evolution of some animals is a little beyond us…Or perhaps they’re simply communicating basic animalistic messages. I really have no experience with whales and what not. But animals have been classified as basic and primal things with little thought beyond the here and now… I think the idea is that a whale is just a really really big…slightly more hungry goldfish…

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some of us have accepted the fact that we arent really superior. i have accepted the fact that i am no better than a waffle while dolphin accepted that he is no better than a water mammal and pencildragon is no better than a drawing
Waffle, you’re great, ya know that :D In my defense though my previous name was mung, one of the most vicious of creatures in exile (II that is:D) But superiority is for idiots and vanity. To be superior is to leave yourself exposed to an attack from someone below you. If you think you’re better then someone then you tend to underestimate them… So I’m with ya there…
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