Cyber Culture/ What is real?
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Agent
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written Sunday, October 24 2004 06:35
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>_< BtI, what is the purpose then, to behave shabbily toward others? You'll lose your friends too in cyberspace. -------------------- ^ö^ vegetarians are sexy. Posts: 1420 | Registered: Wednesday, October 2 2002 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, October 24 2004 07:14
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Creator, small people are generally faster than big people, less weight involved. A middle weight boxer will often win against a heavy weight fighter because of better maneuverability and speed. Also they make smaller targets. With weapons speed is more important strength most of the time. I like being anonymous it allows me to have a much greater degree of freedom. This is valid in a cerebral sort of way, but not much else. -------------------- Wasting your time and mine looking for a good laugh. Star Bright, Star Light, Oh I Wish I May, I Wish Might, Wish For One Star Tonight. Posts: 1084 | Registered: Thursday, November 7 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, October 24 2004 07:16
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The point he was making was, I believe, that friends are easier to replace in cyberspace than in real life - there's a point too; you can make contact with more people. But you can't apply the cheapness/scarcity of 'resources' to social life. I wouldn't waste friends just because I could find new ones. That mentality gets nobody anywhere; and eventually, a reputation gets to spread on the web too. And if nothing else, it makes character qualities deteriorate. :P -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, October 24 2004 10:44
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Well, the friends you make online are still people after all, and it's not like Internet communication is an emotionless void... I consider them to be real friends. Most of them know me better than anyone else, and a couple even have my phone number (heh, talking to them for the first time was a weird experience =^.^= ). And if one of them died...well, that would be horrible. I'm not sure what I'd do (although just to clarify, self-destruction doesn't appeal to me). I really hope that never happens, especially with a friend possibly having to go into the military...hopefully he won't have to, though. Actually, I've had this theory for a while...the Internet allows complete freedom of action. No one can impose rules more strongly than any other person can except in their own domain. So, is the Internet a measure of the way people really are? On a strictly individual basis, I mean - I'm not trying to point to some greater truth about life or nature or anything. Even if someone is trolling with a false personality or posting anonymously, that still gives an indication as to what kind of person they are... -------------------- Digital Neko - more nekojin per capita than you can beat senseless! Now featuring all-new subdomain! Vote Richter! Belmont in 2004! Posts: 147 | Registered: Sunday, June 13 2004 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Sunday, October 24 2004 11:29
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There's also the issue of whether an individual is better "on paper" or in person. Although I prefer conversing in person and absorbing all of the many subtle details involved, online forums have a different sort of attraction for me. I'm not an awfully fast thinker, but I consider myself to be a good thinker when given the time. The lack of real time constraints on message boards allows one to really think through a statement and formulate it to perfection, if one wishes to do so. I'm not always so concerned with acheiving that level of elegance, but the option is always there. I'm more articulate here than I am on AIM or in person. My humor is somewhat more refined, I swear far less often, and I'm much less tolerant of stupidity than I am in "real life" conversations. That said, though, I'm not a huge fan of the anonymity aspect of a message board. Until recently, the need to obtain a picture of myself to post online was quite a pressing concern. My real name, real e-mail address, and real location are all displayed in my profile. Of course, I am twenty years old, and understand that those members that are minors might be justified in holding back a bit on the personal information they give out. All the same, though, those that choose to remain nearly anonymous around here, with skeleton profiles and the like, annoy me somewhat. It's their right, of course, but they're not the sort of people I think I'd enjoy spending time with. I'm not much of a chap for discretion, in person or on the internet. I'll admit my shortcomings nearly as willingly as I'll publicize my successes. When I'm feeling fuzzy-headed after three straight nights of drinking, like I am today, I'll freely admit the fact that I have little sense and less will power. And when and if I ever get some action, I won't waste any time posting the fact, along with whatever details that don't violate the CoC, in this forum. Of course, the full and detailed version will always be available at Desp. -------------------- Stughalf "Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita. Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Sunday, October 24 2004 15:26
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This community really is the majority of my social life. People just don't like me in real life. So if someone in this community died, it would hurt. And I know that if something were to happen to me, some of you would be upset by it, although I'm sure not all of you would. I'm willing to bet Alec and Djur would start a party at Desp if I were to die horribly and they found out about it. But I know most of the Polaris crowd likes me, and for that I'm thankful. -------------------- The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) Famous Last Words - A local pop-punk band They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, October 24 2004 16:48
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I totally resonate with ADos's comment. I have met people on these boards that I can really relate with. There are so many stupid, brainless drones, it is hard to find a really good friend. Some of the folks on these boards make up for my poor excuse for a social life. -------------------- Wham Bam Shizam Posts: 247 | Registered: Monday, September 6 2004 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Sunday, October 24 2004 18:06
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Stug/2> Well, personally... if anyone wants to know about me, they can just hang around this forum for a while. I just sorta figure no one actually looks at profiles most of the time. Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Bob's Big Date
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written Sunday, October 24 2004 18:10
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My profile is usually just an artistic statement. -------------------- The biggest, the baddest, and the fattest. Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Sunday, October 24 2004 19:45
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t Imby & Alec: Understood. I wasn't really thinking of you guys when I said that. -------------------- Stughalf "Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita. Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00 |
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Agent
Member # 1993
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written Monday, October 25 2004 00:09
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Since you are mentioning disappeared members ... Does anybody knows something about BSC? His last post was 9th of September, and he did not say goodbye. I worry a little bit, because there have been elections and huge demonstrations in Venezuela, so he could be in a jail without computer access ... -------------------- ^ö^ vegetarians are sexy. Posts: 1420 | Registered: Wednesday, October 2 2002 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Monday, October 25 2004 00:16
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I've thought about that too, you know. His last post was in Polaris on 9th of September as well. He was also exceedingly active on Polaris over those past few days (though he's always posted tons). He wouldn't just leave both boards on the same day without a real reason. And if he ever did, well, have serious real life reasons preventing him from posting (I try not to think about that too much), who would know? I'm pretty sure *his* parents wouldn't know exactly what online communities he is in. If he was shot as an anonymous martyr in some demonstration or other, we'd never know what happened I guess. Here's to hoping the reason is a harmless one. [ Monday, October 25, 2004 00:27: Message edited by: I Am A Puppet Account ] -------------------- "Toleration is not the opposite of intoleration, but is the counterfeit of it. Both are despotisms. The one assumes to itself the right of withholding liberty of conscience, and the other of granting it." ---Thomas Paine Posts: 156 | Registered: Thursday, January 8 2004 08:00 |
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By Committee
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written Monday, October 25 2004 04:19
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I use my real name in forums (when it's available - it's pretty common) because I think doing so is more genuine and honest. Because my participation here largely occurs on the sly at work, most of my posts on this forum are created quickly, so I frequently have to go back and edit what I've put out there. I'd like to think that I'm much more articulate in the "real world," though it may not be the case. :) This forum for me is a great diversion during a dull, dull day job. Otherwise, I have a pretty hopping life after work - I spend lots of time with my gf, I run (and hash), I hike, I hang out with my roommate and other friends from grad school (a good share of them have moved out here), and I try to take advantage of everything DC has to offer, which is no small task! For what it's worth, I think just about everyone on this board is great, and a pretty colorful crew at that. I hope that I don't come across as a total bore! [ Monday, October 25, 2004 04:22: Message edited by: Andrew Miller ] Posts: 2242 | Registered: Saturday, April 10 2004 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Monday, October 25 2004 05:52
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This is a little bit of a return to the old topic here, but my frustration with "goodbye" threads mostly stems from ones which read I HATE ALL OF YOU SO I AM LEAVING FOR EVER AND EVER GOOD BY. Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Monday, October 25 2004 09:11
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Eh. The internet pretty much replaces any social contact I used to have in the real world. Most of the people who try to talk to me IRL soon conclude I'm some weird person following a variety of carefully selected phrases I spew at people to get them to go away. -------------------- Inconsistently backward. SWOH. IM, PATF, ND. Posts: 612 | Registered: Saturday, October 13 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, October 25 2004 09:57
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Most of the people online also soon conclude that, based on some phrases you utter here. Only here it's not as visible when they walk away shaking their heads. ;) -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Monday, October 25 2004 16:42
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I *really* hope this topic does not die yet, I have tried twice already to make a worthwhile topic and they just fizzle out... So, from what I have read, I realized that you all are not faceless weirdos... well, MOST of you are not faceless weirdos... So if this topic does die, I hope it's last post is meaningful, and dies an honorable death. The internet and online communities are not bad. They can be good, if used properly and not abused. I do beleive profiles are pieces of art. So... goodbye cyber culture/what is real? I will miss you... :( -------------------- Wham Bam Shizam Posts: 247 | Registered: Monday, September 6 2004 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Monday, October 25 2004 16:56
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Why? Does it have to die? I have not given my opinion yet though so here we go... Cyber culture seems to me to have two aspects. Their are huge areas with many people that it is difficult to gain a reputation in even if you try. These places are where it is very easy to find faceless weirdos. Then there are smaller communities like this one- here, it seems to be more close knit, so that if people are really irritating they really will be disliked- not just a temporary feeling that is soon forgotten. In the same way it seems that real friendships can be made here- People can concieve very real images of who they are talking too and what they would probably be like in "real" life. The safety that the internet provides makes it easier to talk about more personal issues because if things go to far it is always possible to leave. One thing that is kinda weird though is that even though this is a community we still love to attack each other and tear each others arguments and viewpoints into pieces. Topics like this tend to die but the controversial topics like the debate ones only die when they get locked. My attempts at "semi-intelligent" topics seem to have failed too (no these don't include the Vahnatai one that was critiqued earlier) but then again what keeps this board interesting is the constant flux of ideas and topics that we can debate over and destroy each others arguments over. Posts: 564 | Registered: Wednesday, April 14 2004 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Monday, October 25 2004 17:09
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I care little if at all about anyone here. This is not surprising, however- I care little if at all about anyone in real life. Nothing personal. -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Monday, October 25 2004 17:22
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Awww... TM, if it makes you feel any better, I *really* like your scenarios... :D If you don't care about us, then why do you post here and take part in the community? I bet there are people here who care about you... maybe... ;) But seriously, why don't you care about anyone? This could take the topic in a completely different direction... -------------------- Wham Bam Shizam Posts: 247 | Registered: Monday, September 6 2004 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Monday, October 25 2004 18:56
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If you don't talk with people, life becomes very uninteresting very quickly. (Everything you enjoy is the product of people coming together, including your birth.) I don't empathize, but I don't alienate. I suppose what prompted me to post in this thread was outrage that people are teaching classes about a goddamned overrated trilogy of movies about sci-fi kung-fu. (Of course, I don't get it. Of course.) -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Monday, October 25 2004 22:36
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I suspect that movie was the sad result of an original concept getting hacked up by a movie company trying to get out more "action" in. To fit it to the audience. It seems like whenever someone comes up with an idea for a movie that tries to go a little deeper than usual, it gets hacked to pieces. Maybe the one who came up with it should have written a book instead. -------------------- "Toleration is not the opposite of intoleration, but is the counterfeit of it. Both are despotisms. The one assumes to itself the right of withholding liberty of conscience, and the other of granting it." ---Thomas Paine Posts: 156 | Registered: Thursday, January 8 2004 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Tuesday, October 26 2004 01:16
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The next person who is planning to leave could leave behind some sort of (preferably mysterious) message. "If I suddenly disappear, call this number/contact this person/go to Paddington station and look behind the third bench from the right". Already I can see the chain of clues that would lead us from the smoky bars of New Orleans through the cafés of downtown Paris and (preferably) end in a wild car chase somewhere on the Siberian tundra. Druglords and mafia enforcers would also be great. And exploding helicopters. Think you could do that? Please? -------------------- ahhahaha i rule u droool Posts: 756 | Registered: Monday, August 4 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, October 26 2004 03:49
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I'm planting the clues right now, so I'll be ready if I do need to leave some time around Winter. :P (Incidentally, I feel watched right now, so if I'm suddenly gone, just assume I ended up somewhere in Guantanamo :D ). -------------------- "Toleration is not the opposite of intoleration, but is the counterfeit of it. Both are despotisms. The one assumes to itself the right of withholding liberty of conscience, and the other of granting it." ---Thomas Paine Posts: 156 | Registered: Thursday, January 8 2004 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Tuesday, October 26 2004 04:52
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I am interested in being neither honest nor real. This is a game message board. The point is to have obnoxious fun. It wouldn't be as fun or as obnoxious if I had to tell you who I really was. So there :P -------------------- Wasting your time and mine looking for a good laugh. Star Bright, Star Light, Oh I Wish I May, I Wish Might, Wish For One Star Tonight. Posts: 1084 | Registered: Thursday, November 7 2002 08:00 |
