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Shock Trooper
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quote:
by Aran: ... If, for example, you saw someone posting here that I'd been flattened by a car, or jumped off a bridge, what would your reaction be?
I would be VERY sad.
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FBM: ...Well, point being that here I often aggrieve certain people. In r/l I am too polite to do so. There, I thrive on socialisation, that is my breakfast, lunch and tea. A good meal is nothing compared to the company you take it in.
Online, I couldn't give a damn what someone, who, in my eyes, is an ididot, thinks.
1. Maybe you are more open online
2. Maybe you just do not get immediate clues about the reactions that you elicit as you get in r/l.
3. Maybe the online community is more patient in pointing out things to you because they have not yet given up on you.

I, for my part, find that I have to be more careful online with what I write.
There are many more people who read and comment than when I say anything in r/l. It is an ongoing tough education for me and I feel I am still not there yet.
Sometimes after a long rant, I do not return to the thread for several days just to calm down.
Sometimes when the answer is three screenfuls after my single screen post, I just give up.
I do not have the stamina to go on and on and on as I would in r/l.
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Law Bringer
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quote:
I would be VERY sad.
Well, that doesn't count! :P

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Lifecrafter
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My final statement on the subject:

It lies beyond this link.

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Posts: 756 | Registered: Monday, August 4 2003 07:00
Shock Trooper
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The trouble starts when cyber reality and r/l meet.
Example:
IMAGE(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40457000/jpg/_40457975_delta_queen203b.jpg)
Queen of the skies was suspended from her job because she posted this "inappropiate" photo:
Blogger's trouble
No textile malfunction - just a smile and a lapse of media hygiene, namely separation of r/l from cyber identity.

[ Wednesday, October 27, 2004 01:59: Message edited by: No 2 Methylphenidate ]
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Warrior
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Anonymity is fine and well as long as you don't post a picture of the uniform of your company. :P

[ Wednesday, October 27, 2004 01:57: Message edited by: I Am A Puppet Account ]

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"Toleration is not the opposite of intoleration, but is the counterfeit of it. Both are despotisms. The one assumes to itself the right of withholding liberty of conscience, and the other of granting it."
---Thomas Paine

Posts: 156 | Registered: Thursday, January 8 2004 08:00
Shock Trooper
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You mean she should have taken off that uniform before having that picture taken? I doubt it.
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Off With Their Heads
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It's not like there's a logo or company name somewhere — I have no idea which airline that is offhand.

Also, what exactly are they objecting to? I would think that an airline would profit from the perception that they have sexy flight attendants. It's not like there's any nudity — it's just her legs.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
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Originally written by Kelandon:

Also, what exactly are they objecting to? I would think that an airline would profit from the perception that they have sexy flight attendants. It's not like there's any nudity — it's just her legs.
"A US airline attendant is fighting for her job after she was suspended over postings on her blog, or online diary."

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Law Bringer
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Oh, in the US they have... other concepts of what constitutes nudity or immoral photos?

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"I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik
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Off With Their Heads
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I have no idea what Weedy is getting at. I am from the U.S. I'd think that I'd have some idea of what constitutes actual nudity in the U.S., and legs do not. Lasciviousness, maybe, but nudity, no.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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You're from San Fransisco. You don't count.

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Off With Their Heads
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Well, maybe in the Deep South, legs constitute nudity, but not in the North or the West.

I'm just trying to imagine the argument that they made: "By posing in a sexually provocative picture, you gave the company a reputation of sexual immorality among its fight attendants."

I still say that would increase revenues, not decrease them.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Profile #62
Of course, but it is immoral to say so. I can imagine they gave her a hefty bonus or something like that.

BTW, fight attendants on a plane? Wow.

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Shock Trooper
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Kelandon: ... Lasciviousness, maybe
What is your life like, how do the ladies around you dress everyday, what ads and cover pages do you see everyday that you associate this picture with "Lasciviousness" - in California?

Catholic Europe is getting wound up over head scarves as islamist symbols of female suppression and - possibly in a subconscious counterreaction - bare midriff tops are worn at protestant confirmations and christian funerals. In comparison, this friendly smiling girl is dressed very decently in a casual inconspicuous uniform, imho.

If they had asked her to suppress her ID badge on the photo I could understand, but ... she should rather be recognized for scaring off islamists passengers.

[ Thursday, October 28, 2004 05:28: Message edited by: No 2 Methylphenidate ]
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Warrior
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she should rather be recognized for scaring off islamists passengers.
Keeping out "potential terrorists" through "immoral" posing? I wonder why Bush hasn't made public nudity in all airplanes mandatory then by now. :P

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"Toleration is not the opposite of intoleration, but is the counterfeit of it. Both are despotisms. The one assumes to itself the right of withholding liberty of conscience, and the other of granting it."
---Thomas Paine

Posts: 156 | Registered: Thursday, January 8 2004 08:00
Shock Trooper
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Profile Homepage #65
Some incident in old Troy comes to mind with nude females marching towards an insane warrior in order to calm him down with a healthy shock. Forgot who it was.
Might even fit into some RP or some scenario.
Ha, and some nudist "No bush" demos - don't you remember? IMAGE(http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~ph/pix/bush_lies/no_bush.jpg)
IMAGE(http://www.efn.org/~eugpeace/nobusheugene.jpg)
I wonder whether that will get me banned here?
Not sure about desper-support - these are no goats.

[ Thursday, October 28, 2004 05:51: Message edited by: No 2 Methylphenidate ]
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Shake Before Using
Member # 75
Profile #66
I personally don't feel that it's obscene or pornographic at all. If I get complaints, I might transform the pictures into links.

...however, what I do feel is an intense sorrow for the people lying naked in the snow in the first picture, though. :P
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Infiltrator
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Profile #67
Hmmmm
I guess they were "indoor nudists" the one with a tan throws the picture off. As for the Airline attendant- I thought that nudity was manditory on planes. Was that just some weird exception?
Posts: 564 | Registered: Wednesday, April 14 2004 07:00
Shock Trooper
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quote:
Imban:
I do feel is an intense sorrow for the people lying naked in the snow
Have you ever been to Finland? AFAIK this is a matter of culture there.
IMAGE(http://www.exodus.co.uk/pictures/c03hp14a.jpg)
No girlie ladies, imho.

[ Thursday, October 28, 2004 08:45: Message edited by: No 2 Methylphenidate ]
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Shake Before Using
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This certainly explains something about the Finns on this board.
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Off With Their Heads
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quote:
Originally written by No 2 Methylphenidate:
What is your life like, how do the ladies around you dress everyday, what ads and cover pages do you see everyday that you associate this picture with "Lasciviousness" - in California?
I said that I could sort of see the picture as suggestive of sexual immorality if one were highly conservative, but I personally don't think it's particularly obscene. And as far as I can tell, because of that statement, you suggest through this rhetorical question that the picture is not obscene. Yeah. That's what I just said. So what's your point?

Sorry. I've just gotten a headache trying to figure out what you're trying to say. It sounds like you're criticizing me for saying something that agrees with what you're saying.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Infiltrator
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Profile #71
quote:
This certainly explains something about the Finns on this board.
hmmm.. maybe their very hairy-
But that is kinda crazy- do Fins do the under ice scuba stuff as well?
Posts: 564 | Registered: Wednesday, April 14 2004 07:00
Law Bringer
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quote:
Originally written by Imban:

This certainly explains something about the Finns on this board.
I wonder if having your brain insta-frozen does it?

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The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki!
"Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft.
"I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik
Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00

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