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Custer Bob's Big Date Member # 3151	written Tuesday, February 3 2004 19:54 Profile Homepage #100 I wouldn't call Jews an ethnic group, either, and I think that creating a separate ethnic group for Jews is probably one of the single biggest balls-ups in European history. But what the hell would I know? I'm neither European nor Jewish, so I'm talking out of my ass, right? I'm tired of being treated like a fifth wheel everywhere I go. Good goddamn night. -------------------- In a word, gay. --Bob the Impaler Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00
Stugri-La Guardian Member # 3521	written Tuesday, February 3 2004 21:01 Profile #101 Muslims are definitely not an ethnic group, and I also feel that Jews aren't either. The Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are arguably separate ethnic groups, while African Muslims, Arab Muslims, and South Asian (Indian and Pakistani) Muslims easily comprise three distinct ethnic groups. Then there's also the Uyghur Muslims of China, which, while not as large a population, are certainly distinct ethnically. [ Tuesday, February 03, 2004 21:02: Message edited by: A Stughalfian Principle ] -------------------- "Let a man find himself, in distinction from others, on top of two wheels with a chain- at least in a poor country like Russia- and his vanity begins to swell out like his tires. In America it takes an automobile to produce this effect."- Leon Trotsky Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Sir David Fire! Fire! Fire! Fire! Member # 919	written Wednesday, February 4 2004 18:13 Profile #102 I know that everyone's different, and that Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity. But really, by your reasoning, there is no such thing as an ethnic group. Not all Frenchmen are the same, not all Jamaicans are the same, not all African Americans are the same, and not all Jews are the same, nor are all Muslims the same. That doesn't mean that Jews have nothing more than a religion in common. -------------------- And though the musicians would die, the music would live on in the imaginations of all who heard it. -The Last Pendragon TEH CONSPIRACY IZ ALL Les forum de la chance. Incaseofemergency,breakglass. Posts: 3351 | Registered: Saturday, April 6 2002 08:00
Stugri-La Guardian Member # 3521	written Wednesday, February 4 2004 19:01 Profile #103 I surely did not mean that, and I'm certain that no one besides yourself believed that I did. I was merely interested in distinguishing between the terms, "ethnic group," and "religious group." In general, Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews differ significantly in skin color, as well as other significant racial phenotypic characteristics. And anyone who claims that a Pakistani Muslim is of the same race as an Arab Muslim has been listening to far too much Pakistani propaganda. Indian Hindus and Pakistani Muslims belong in the same ethnic group. It's just that some were converted to Islam when the Muslims invaded and established themselves, while others were not. -------------------- "Let a man find himself, in distinction from others, on top of two wheels with a chain- at least in a poor country like Russia- and his vanity begins to swell out like his tires. In America it takes an automobile to produce this effect."- Leon Trotsky Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Drakefyre Triad Mage Member # 7	written Thursday, February 5 2004 01:17 Profile Homepage #104 While we're sort of on the subject, what does everyone think of reparations for slavery? I heard a piece on the radio, where someone said that segregation was better for the blacks than this false integration, and that the US government and Europe were liable for the struggles of the black man. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Vahnatai Did Do It desperance.net - We're Everywhere The Arena - God Will Sort The Dead ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
demonslay3r Guardian Member # 2238	written Thursday, February 5 2004 06:21 Profile Homepage #105 "False intergration"? I'm not sure what others' communites are like, but here every one is equal. Black, white, orange, yellow, green... no matter your color you have a place. It's most unfortunite that the rest of the world can't be as tolerating. This might be interpreted as racist, but why do young African-Americans insist on... insisting that slavery crimes were commited against THEM personally? This is even more offensive than being called a "cracker". -------------------- Fort Emergence Home of the [E.E.P.] Rage and vengeance are minions of me. The fists of the Phoenix will strike the unrightious. It knows your weaknesses, and will strike with fury. The Demonslayer does not faulter. With so many years ahead to fall in line, why would you wish down on me? What's my age again? Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00
Sir David Fire! Fire! Fire! Fire! Member # 919	written Thursday, February 5 2004 11:26 Profile #106 Reparations for slavery? Um, date, please? My computer says it's the 21st century, not the 19th, but I suppose it could be wrong. -------------------- And though the musicians would die, the music would live on in the imaginations of all who heard it. -The Last Pendragon TEH CONSPIRACY IZ ALL Les forum de la chance. Incaseofemergency,breakglass. Posts: 3351 | Registered: Saturday, April 6 2002 08:00
Talent in a Previous Life This Side Towards Enemy Member # 3098	written Thursday, February 5 2004 12:08 Profile #107 If an appropriate sum were to be payed, the country would likely go bankrupt, so I understand. So I don't think that one will fly. Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews ought to be considered separate ethnic groups. But ethnicity was not the reason Jews were persecuted originally (probably in part because many in Europe were no longer descended only from Semites going back a millenium.) Why do I say this? Because in the Middle Ages, there was significant peasant movement. In much of Eastern Europe, peasants moved out in a manner similar to colonisation, resulting in Scottish communities in Great Poland, for example. These were not victims of pogroms. Jews were victimised a) due to religion and b) due to the fact that this forced them to be separate and c) into the career path of usury. -------------------- Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned I'll tell you my story, man Though I wish I'd never been born I'm loose at the seams, I've broken my dreams And my hand it shakes the pen Come on, come on now baby, Let the good times roll again Posts: 961 | Registered: Thursday, June 12 2003 07:00
Drakefyre Triad Mage Member # 7	written Thursday, February 5 2004 12:17 Profile Homepage #108 He said: "With segregation, we ran our own diners; our own trains. When we integrated, all of that was taken away from us and we were put below the white man again." And: "If we look back at where most rich peoples' money comes from(he referenced the HBO documentary on rich kids), we go back to the 1800s. Imagine what the black man could have been today if our fathers and grandfathers had been able to accumulate the wealth that the white men did. Now there is a distinct financial gap, and the only way to fill that gap is with reparations." [ Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:20: Message edited by: Drakefyre ] -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Vahnatai Did Do It desperance.net - We're Everywhere The Arena - God Will Sort The Dead ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
Custer Bob's Big Date Member # 3151	written Thursday, February 5 2004 15:10 Profile Homepage #109 And, of course, to 90% of the country, Lincoln promising 40 acres and a mule makes the systematic hatchet-rape of any of Lincoln's promises that actually got kept in the 1880s-1930s justifiable. Watch Sir David immediately jump on this statement, declaring that blacks must not have had it too bad because one or two have done exceptionally well, ignoring the fact that most have failed even more miserably than the whites in an equivalent situation. He is like a clown. A funny, funny clown. -------------------- In a word, gay. --Bob the Impaler Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00
Yatta Agent Member # 798	written Thursday, February 5 2004 17:49 Profile Homepage #110 more black people have succeded than you think. And from the way I see it alot of racial tension is comming from Crazy white libral *******s like you. Actually if it wasn't for you *******s we would probably be making better racial equality. Face it all you librals have been doing is starting trouble amongst the races. Listen why don't all you librals leave and go masterbate. Because that's really all you people are good for. -------------------- Look Ma, I'm banned! Posts: 1046 | Registered: Friday, March 22 2002 08:00
Imban Shake Before Using Member # 75	written Thursday, February 5 2004 18:03 Profile #111 (Alec, um, being fairly insulting is bad. Johnnyfeds, being more than fairly insulting is against the Code of Conduct. If you would stop trying to get banned, more people would like you.) Sosehr sein Ende mich bewegt, Ich durft' es anders nicht vermelden. - Er stirbt - denn tragisch angelegt War der Charakter dieses Helden. Gar manches ist vorherbestimmt; Das Schicksal führt ihn in Bedrängnis; Doch wie er sich dabei benimmt, Ist seine Schuld und nicht Verhängnis. Drum bleibt's dabei! - Denn die Moral Ist hier kein leeres Wortgeklingel - Und lebte er auch noch einmal, Er bliebe doch der alte Schlingel! Hier sieht man Fritz, den muntern Knaben, Nebst Huckebein, dem jungen Raben. Und dieser Fritz, wie alle Knaben, Will einen Raben gerne haben. Schon rutscht er auf dem Ast daher, Der Vogel, der mißtraut ihm sehr. Schlapp! macht der Fritz von seiner Kappe Mit Listen eine Vogelklappe. Beinahe hätt' er ihn! Doch ach! Der Ast zerbricht mit einem Krach. In schwarzen Beeren sitzt der Fritze, Der schwarze Vogel in der Mütze. Der Knabe Fritz ist schwarz betupft; Der Rabe ist in Angst und hupft. Der schwarze Vogel ist gefangen, Er bleibt im Unterfutter hangen. "Jetzt hab' ich dich, Hans Huckebein! Wie wird sich Tante Lotte freu'n!" Die Tante kommt aus ihrer Tür; "Ei!" - spricht sie - "Welch ein gutes Tier!" Kaum ist das Wort dem Mund entflohn, Schnapp! hat er ihren Finger schon. "Ach!" - ruft sie - "Er ist doch nicht gut! Weil er mir was zuleide tut!" Hier lauert in des Topfes Höhle Hans Huckebein, die schwarze Seele. Den Knochen, den er Spitz gestohlen, Will dieser sich jetzt wieder holen. Sie ziehn mit Knurren und Gekrächz, Der eine links, der andre rechts. Schon denkt der Spitz, daß er gewinnt, Da zwickt der Rabe ihn von hint. O weh! Er springt auf Spitzens Nacken, Um ihm die Haare auszuzwacken. Der Spitz, der ärgert sich bereits Und rupft den Raben seinerseits. Derweil springt mit dem Schinkenbein Der Kater in den Topf hinein. Da sitzen sie und schau'n und schau'n. - Dem Kater ist nicht sehr zu trau'n. Der Kater hackt den Spitz, der schreit, Der Rabe ist voll Freudigkeit. Schnell faßt er, weil der Topf nicht ganz, Mit schlauer List den Katerschwanz. Es rollt der Topf. Es krümmt voll Quale Des Katers Schweif sich zur Spirale. Und Spitz und Kater fliehn im Lauf. - Der größte Lump bleibt obenauf!! - Nichts Schönres gab's für Tante Lotte Als Schwarze-Heidelbeer-Kompotte. Doch Huckebein verschleudert nur Die schöne Gabe der Natur. Die Tante naht voll Zorn und Schrecken; Hans Huckebein verläßt das Becken. Und schnell betritt er, angstbeflügelt, Die Wäsche, welche frisch gebügelt. O weh! Er kommt ins Tellerbord; Die Teller rollen rasselnd fort. Auch fällt der Korb, worin die Eier - Ojemine! - und sind so teuer! Patsch! fällt der Krug. Das gute Bier Ergießt sich in die Stiefel hier. Und auf der Tante linken Fuß Stürzt sich des Eimers Wasserguß. Sie hält die Gabel in der Hand, Und auch der Fritz kommt angerannt. Perdums! Da liegen sie. - Dem Fritze Dringt durch das Ohr die Gabelspitze. Dies wird des Raben Ende sein - So denkt man wohl - doch leider nein! Denn - schnupp! - der Tante Nase faßt er; Und nochmals triumphiert das Laster! Jetzt aber naht sich das Malheur, Denn dies Getränke ist Likör. Es duftet süß. - Hans Huckebein Taucht seinen Schnabel froh hinein. Und läßt mit stillvergnügtem Sinnen Den ersten Schluck hinunterrinnen. Nicht übel! - Und er taucht schon wieder Den Schnabel in die Tiefe nieder. Er hebt das Glas und schlürft den Rest, Weil er nicht gern was übrigläßt. Ei, ei! Ihm wird so wunderlich, So leicht und doch absunderlich! Er krächzt mit freudigem Getön Und muß auf einem Beine stehn. Der Vogel, welcher sonsten fleugt, Wird hier zu einem Tier, was kreucht. Und Übermut kommt zum Beschluß, Der alles ruinieren muß. Er zerrt voll roher Lust und Tücke Der Tante künstliches Gestricke. Der Tisch ist glatt - der Böse taumelt - Das Ende naht - sieh da! Er baumelt! "Die Bosheit war sein Hauptpläsier, Drum" - spricht die Tante - "hängt er hier!" [ Thursday, February 05, 2004 18:06: Message edited by: Shuu Shirakawa ] Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00

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