ESRB ratings, and which ones do you think spidweb games would get?

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Author	Topic: ESRB ratings, and which ones do you think spidweb games would get?
Captain Uglyhead Warrior Member # 126	written Monday, November 10 2003 04:56 Profile Homepage #0 At first glance, I'd say E's all around, but some people might have a problem with all the killing. You have to admit there's tons of good ole-fashioned slaughtering going on, but it's so primitively rendered that they might just manage to get away with it. The angry christian fundamentalists might have a problem with all the scary monsters and demons running around, unless, perhaps, you inform them that you (usually) kill them off... Do you think Jeff should get his games prefessionally evaluated and given ratings at all? Would a very official and legit-looking rating on a game make it more appeasing? Any other related questions you can think of? -------------------- Check out the DIARY, why doncha? It won't bite. Probably. "We were heart companions, We were companions in the woods, We were fellows of the same bed, Where we used to sleep the balmy sleep. After mortal battles abroad, In countries many and far distant, Together we used to practice, and go Through each forest, learning with Scathach". Posts: 161 \| Registered: Monday, October 8 2001 07:00
StD Infiltrator Member # 1877	written Monday, November 10 2003 05:44 Profile #1 Man, i just hate these "angry christian fundamentalists" , they just dont know what they are talking about, im christian myself, but the onle seemingly christian thing about me is that i dont say "Oh my god", and that i pray sometimes. I dont remember the ESRB system, but i would say 12+, maby 13+ . THEY DONT KNOW WATH THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEY A JUST MAKIN FOOLS OF DEMSELVES! -------------------- MDNZZZ ZMMMBIS WBLOONZ 33111-CRUSADER-4849 Posts: 662 \| Registered: Friday, September 13 2002 07:00
xxo Erudite* Member # 3042	written Monday, November 10 2003 09:00 Profile #2 I'd say they get "E"s, because the games aren't really gory or anything, besides the tiny bit of blood left on the ground after killing a monster. Also, my Heroes Chronicles games are rated "E" for "Animated Violence", which is all that's in SW games. The only thing the ESRB might have a problem with is Skribbane in E3 and A3. I don't think a rating on SW games would look very good. Don't boxed games usually only get ratings? -------------------- The Club of All Chance Forums I was once member #2475, but then my account was deleted because of a bug. Post count=406+whatever it says below. Posts: 402 \| Registered: Thursday, May 29 2003 07:00
Custer Bob's Big Date Member # 3151	written Monday, November 10 2003 11:22 Profile Homepage #3 I'd say T. They have animated violence, the Exiles had quite a bit of profanity (and I hate Jeff for bowdlerizing the Avernums), and some mature themes. Then again, ESRB ratings only apply to shelf games, so there. -------------------- In a word, gay. --Bob the Impaler Posts: 2367 \| Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00
Oracle Apprentice Member # 3643	written Monday, November 10 2003 12:11 Profile #4 For a quick reference for those posting here's the list: eC-Early Childhood (This really only applies to kiddy games) E- Everyone (Little or no violence, maybe a little profanity. Think Nintendo) T- Teen (An average game, most shelf games fall into this catagory) M- Mature (Think Grand Theft Auto, violence, sexuality, lots of profanity, etc) A- Adult (I've never seen one of these. Pretty much porno games I would imagine.) -------------------- Don't ask the Oracle unless you're willing to get the slurred drunken truth. Posts: 24 \| Registered: Monday, November 3 2003 08:00
Omlette Shaper Member # 517	written Monday, November 10 2003 12:24 Profile #5 quote: Originally written by Captain Uglyhead: The angry christian fundamentalists might have a problem with all the scary monsters and demons running around, unless, perhaps, you inform them that you (usually) kill them off... The 'angry Christian fundamentalists' are not concerned with the presence of demons so much as the idea that if they're in too many computer games, the whole concept of demons being what they are in Christian theology (ie, fallen angels, and very much more powerful than any computer game I've seen implies in that there shouldn't be a way to even hurt them without reference to God) is trivialised to the point where people don't see demons for the threat they are. I've never quite seen the logic in that as valid, but I can see where they're coming from, at least... -E- -------------------- Let them eat cake! Polaris Boards: The System is Up. Perennially. Posts: 2314 \| Registered: Tuesday, January 15 2002 08:00
Firedrake Infiltrator Member # 2242	written Monday, November 10 2003 12:34 Profile #6 I'd go with T-13+ for Spiderweb games. -------------------- "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes back into you." -Friedrich Nietzsche "There is no dodging the quad laser." -Ugnagnok Posts: 469 \| Registered: Thursday, November 14 2002 08:00
Custer Bob's Big Date Member # 3151	written Monday, November 10 2003 13:48 Profile Homepage #7 I prefer the way Garzy went out in E2 over A2, by the way. The image is much more vivid -------------------- In a word, gay. --Bob the Impaler Posts: 2367 \| Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00
X Shaper Member # 496	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 06:27 Profile #8 The obsession some fundies have with the demonic suggests an unhealthy preoccupation with evil when they should be celebrating all the rest of God's Creation. At least this would cheer them up and take that glazed, starey look out of their eyes. They really do need to sort themselves out before running around censuring everyone else. Posts: 2333 \| Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00
StD Infiltrator Member # 1877	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 10:01 Profile #9 You know, home in Norway, this twat "Kristin Halvorsen", a politician in "KRF" (Christian folk asembling or something like that in english) come an squeek "We wanna forbid violent games! Im serious, i just got so ravagious ( really really angry ), i cant find a word for it, not being able to buy SOF II, GTA, Hitman +++! Of course i can get them on KaZaa (I found nothing about Avernum there, BOHOO!)but ANYWAY! -Deus, who forgot his everchanging signature in his last topic. -------------------- MDNZZZ ZMMMBIS WBLOONZ 33111-CRUSADER-4849 Posts: 662 \| Registered: Friday, September 13 2002 07:00
M6mmi Warrior Member # 3390	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 10:54 Profile #10 If your old enought to understand most of the big words in SW games, your old enough to play it. Worked for me (started playing SW games when i was 10) -------------------- Call 1-800-NOT-1337 -------------------- Disturbing the dead since 1986. -------------------- All your ass are belong to ME! -------------------- NEVER underestimate your enemies Never OVERestimate your friends Posts: 91 \| Registered: Tuesday, August 26 2003 07:00
Necris Omega Warrior Member # 2155	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 12:59 Profile #11 quote: Originally written by M6mmi: If your old enought to understand most of the big words in SW games, your old enough to play it. Worked for me (started playing SW games when i was 10) Very well put. If a person posesses the cognizance to play the relatively complex spiderweb games, then they have the maturity to deal with the content and issues presented therein. And yeah, it did miff me that Jeff went through and censored a lot of the Avernum series from Exile. If you're the kind of person who will be offended by a few dirty words, then there is little chance that you would be playing the Avernum series at all anyways. ---Your censored maniac, Necris Omega -------------------- Sanity is a relative concept. And like most my relatives, I rarely see it. "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." ~ Albert Einstein Posts: 168 \| Registered: Saturday, October 26 2002 07:00
wz. As Infiltrator Member # 3040	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 13:07 Profile #12 Not that I'm saying in any way that this should be a factor in deciding the rating of the games, but some conservatives could be offended by the homosexual references to Nancy and (I forgot her girlfriend's name) in A1 and A2. -------------------- who? Posts: 508 \| Registered: Thursday, May 29 2003 07:00
Omlette Shaper Member # 517	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 13:19 Profile #13 Elspeth? Not really-the same conservatives would probably side with the Empire's banishing them... -E- -------------------- Let them eat cake! Polaris Boards: The System is Up. Perennially. Posts: 2314 \| Registered: Tuesday, January 15 2002 08:00
Custer Bob's Big Date Member # 3151	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 13:23 Profile Homepage #14 It is a typical trait of reactionaries to believe that not looking at something causes it to go away. Therefore, removing references to homosexuality, drug use, social violence, and so on will reduce them in society, and sex-ed is counterproductive. Then again, they're dead wrong, but still -------------------- In a word, gay. --Bob the Impaler Posts: 2367 \| Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00
Sir David Fire! Fire! Fire! Fire! Member # 919	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 13:32 Profile #15 T, then, I guess... I had forgotten about the lesbians, otherwise I would say E. Actually... now that I think about it, does it ever come out and say that they're lesbians? I'm pretty sure it's all implied... if so, maybe E. The newer games, at least; maybe the Exile series is different. -------------------- And though the musicians would die, the music would live on in the imaginations of all who heard it. -The Last Pendragon TEH CONSPIRACY IZ ALL Les forum de la chance. In case of emergency,break glass. Posts: 3351 \| Registered: Saturday, April 6 2002 08:00
The Abridged Series Guardian Member # 2080	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 16:32 Profile #16 I'm reasonably sure I saw some profanity in E2 when that women in that 1 town tells you where you can find some alchemy ingredient. And some more light profanity elsewhere. I think it's stupid that twe make you have to be a certain age to buy certain games. Thanks to the internet, we can find far worse stuff that on any game, but thankfully you can't fully regulate the content of the internet. Sidenote: After being suspended for using saying hell in 1 of my classes, I want to kill all anti-freedom of speach people. Nothing says "we want to prevent another school shooting here" like punishing people excessively for the most insignificant things possible" Anyway. I wouldn't trust any rating system being controled by overly conservative zealots. Posts: 1918 \| Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Stugri-La Guardian Member # 3521	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 17:18 Profile #17 It is only strongly implied that the two women are lesbians in Avernum 3 (I have not played A1 or A2). All they say is that they were very close for a very long time on the surface, too close for the Empire to approve of, or something like that. It is not said straight out that they are lesbians, but the implication that this is indeed the case is very strong. -------------------- "Let a man find himself, in distinction from others, on top of two wheels with a chain- at least in a poor country like Russia- and his vanity begins to swell out like his tires. In America it takes an automobile to produce this effect."- Leon Trotsky Posts: 1798 \| Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Djur Revolutions Babelicious Member # 3149	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 18:04 Profile Homepage #18 Hey! Sir David's saying stupid things again! activates SahBot YOUNG CHILDREN SHOULD BE SHIELDED FROM INNUENDO WHICH THEY CANNOT UNDERSTAND AND WILL NOT EVEN RECOGNIZE AND IF THEY DO RECOGNIZE/UNDERSTAND IT IT'S TOO LATE THEN NOW ISN'T IT????? THE FACT THAT LESBIANS EXIST SHOULD IMMEDIATELY MAKE GAMES HAVE A HIGHER RATING BECAUSE LITTLE KIDS WILL ALL TURN INTO HOMOS AND/OR DYKES IF THEY HEAR REFERENCES TO HOMOSEXUALITY IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM [ Tuesday, November 11, 2003 18:06: Message edited by: Conspiracy Duck ] -------------------- You are my precious thing Thing of speed and beauty, You are my precious thing As long as you remain beneath me -- Big Black Posts: 999 \| Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00
The Abridged Series Guardian Member # 2080	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 19:00 Profile #19 But pyros like lesbians... well, hot ones at least. nice 1s are ok, but hot 1s are much more useful... uh, I mean, um... (censored) Anyway, death to... um, whatever evil thingy this topic is supposed to be about. Posts: 1918 \| Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00
Thuryl ...b10010b... Member # 869	written Tuesday, November 11 2003 23:36 Profile Homepage #20 Calm yourself, Djur. The question in the topic is what ratings we think SW games would get if the ESRB rated them, not which ones we think they should get. I'm inclined to disagree with Sir David, though. I doubt a couple of throwaway lines of conversation would change the rating. Posts: 9973 \| Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00
StD Infiltrator Member # 1877	written Wednesday, November 12 2003 06:47 Profile #21 Its not like I turned in to a gay the first time som bully tricked a LOOSER(Not me) to enter a gayporn site at my school (Everybody was looking and laughing, including me), people react too bad! Bu my gues is stil at 12+ or 13+ because of the refs and animated violence, and sometimes grossy popups. -------------------- MDNZZZ ZMMMBIS WBLOONZ 33111-CRUSADER-4849 Posts: 662 \| Registered: Friday, September 13 2002 07:00
Or else o'erleap. Law Bringer Member # 335	written Wednesday, November 12 2003 13:24 Profile Homepage #22 Probably T. Some people would object to the animated violence (animated used very loosely), mild language, and twisted humor. —Alorael, who also thinks that the concept of shareware dangerously opposes big business, so it must be supressed. It is certainly not for everyone! Posts: 14579 \| Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Milla Infiltrator Member # 65	written Thursday, November 13 2003 10:25 Profile Homepage #23 quote: Originally written by M6mmi: If your old enought to understand most of the big words in SW games, your old enough to play it. Worked for me (started playing SW games when i was 10) Same here -------------------- ...a sadist is only someone that is terribly nice to a masochist... Want to find out how nasty you really are? visit:http://www.thespark.com/ now! Also look at my site here This is also a good site Posts: 650 \| Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00
StD Infiltrator Member # 1877	written Thursday, November 13 2003 10:44 Profile #24 I started playing Exile III when i was, um, 10 or 9, kinda hard to remember. I actualy understood it, and i am from Norway too. But when we are talking about learning words and stuff, you heard the english knowledge that italians have? ARRRR is the best word i can find for it, "Hey, you know the way to the train station?", "Qe sista les condore pasa comprende?", "Er, stasiona il trano?", "Le sista con destra pilto conlo sinistre quaso le tislonto!", "Oh, gratzie, you really helped us!". We found the train station two hours later, if there had been directions on signs and stuff, and the italian man could speak english, it would propably have taken ten minutes. Fun. -------------------- MDNZZZ ZMMMBIS WBLOONZ 33111-CRUSADER-4849 Posts: 662 \| Registered: Friday, September 13 2002 07:00