Profile for Emperor Tullegolar
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Displayed name | Emperor Tullegolar |
Member number | 7420 |
Title | Shaper |
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Registered | Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
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what is the best A game in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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written Saturday, March 3 2007 20:10
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Between those that play these games only for the combat and those like Alorael who don't seem to know the meaning of the word battle, I'm going to have to agree with Synergy on this one. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
Zimbabwe. in General | |
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written Saturday, March 3 2007 20:02
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Wait, wait... this just in, the country's new name is: Pepsi Presents Zimbabwe. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
Playing as the Vahnatai (?) in General | |
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written Saturday, March 3 2007 20:01
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It's interesting because I've seen people complain that this would take away the mystery of the vahnatai, but I've also seen those same people complain that there is not enough known about the vahnatai to make them interesting characters. The way I see it, why not? Once Jeff is finished with Avernum, I certainly wouldn't object to a new series where you play as vahnatai. He's good at creating new worlds like that, as seen in Geneforge. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
what is the best A game in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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written Saturday, March 3 2007 15:39
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quote:Bashing the whole series at once to disprove my points isn't proving how Avernum 2 is the best. I still don't understand what you see in it. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
what is the best A game in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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written Saturday, March 3 2007 13:36
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quote:I think these were the hardest fight ever. I actually had to save, edit my characters back to health, and reload a few times for this one. quote:Well, that's kind of harsh. I don't even think you believe that. What makes you say this? The Garzahd fights were some of the worst in the series. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the man and his work, but he had a crappy final battle compared to Rentar and even Hawthorne. His whole final fortress was boring, too. Limoncelli was pretty cool, but mostly because of the little description boxes that came up describing what he looked like and how he died. Avernum 3 had the Tower of Zkal (not only an awesome dungeon but a real challenge for those masochists out there), that one drake's castle, and lets not forget the Monestary of Madness (you know you love it). -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
Phariton = Monarch? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Saturday, March 3 2007 12:56
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Randomizer: I didn't say he controled all those creations. But still, creating them must require incredible power. Plus, he created the Titan as well. He's definitly learned a lot over the years, and not just from ordinary sources. I agree with Dikiyoba, we can't look at any single ending as canon, even the ones that 'happened.' -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
Serviles in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Saturday, March 3 2007 12:49
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No. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
what is the best A game in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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written Friday, March 2 2007 07:55
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quote:I don't consider a battle epic just because you are having hordes and hordes of foot soldiers thrown at you. I mean epic boss battles. You guys talk about atmosphere, how about the Rentar/Erika duel, in which your measly characters were powerless, your only goal to survive long enough to reach that panel. I also thought the alien slime was cool, despite not being particularly difficult. quote:I already admited the Empire Forts were cool (none of them were in Dark Waters) but I still think Avernum 3's dungeons are superior. The Filth Factory is my personal favorite, but how about all those artifact dungeons. I'll admit Avernum 3 loses points for not having the Tower of Shifting Floors, but still. quote:But you did win the war single-handedly, without Gharzad and that portal, the Empire was hurting. And I thought you liked underdog stories? Weren't you intimidated by the fact that you had to accuse not one, but three of the most powerful being in the world of making the mosters? Crossing that bridge to see the legendary Erika only to accuse her of a crime, or wading through lava to meet the most powerful of dragons, knowing you're about to piss her off, that's atmosphere. Edit: Really, the 'Vahnatai war machine" was pretty much just Rentar and a couple of friends (whom you quickly dispatched). That's why I liked Avernum 4 so much, too. You had the feeling when you met her that she was really lonely, no one was helping her, and she was hurt by that. You beat her because she was one mage, powerful, but still one mage. [ Friday, March 02, 2007 07:59: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ] -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
The canister effect... in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Friday, March 2 2007 07:42
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Litalia used canisters, but avoided the pure mind effect. Hodge dies, but only if you kill him. I appreciate the chance to flaunt my Geneforge lore knowledge, but you really should play the games, it's more fun to find these things out that way. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
The canister effect... in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Friday, March 2 2007 03:35
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There was nothing wrong with Master Hodge. As he used more and more canisters, he became more magically powerful and thus had less and less need for his body. As a result, he sort of started to fall apart... but it should be noted that this happens very rarely. Usually, canister users' features are uneffected or they can even improve as an aura of authority grows around them. As for Litalia, she refused the clarity of the canisters, choosing instead to cloud her own mind to avoid outbursts (which would be inevitable since she surrounds herself with the weak), thus making her aloof and distant, even more so than usual. [ Friday, March 02, 2007 03:38: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ] -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
Phariton = Monarch? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 22:37
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Why? Who says Monarch didn't use a geneforge? The man is impossibly powerful, sending creations through, what, five different zones? You were probably only able to beat him because he would be totally exhausted from his unending campaign to make all those creations. I'd say this is only more evidence that he is the PC, who else could gain that much power unnoticed? -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
what is the best A game in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 22:14
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quote:Oh, I get it now. This is one of those "it's better because it's more difficult" deals. Figures. I suppose if you prefer things like that to epic battles, cool dungeons, and mystery plot then Avernum 2 is the way to go. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
Phariton = Monarch? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 22:10
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Maybe. He would have to have some serious funding to get the nessesary puresteel and crystals. But I suppose it is possible since he appears to have sold off all the equipment he got from his adventures. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
Phariton = Monarch? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 20:56
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Monarch makes canisters? -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
what is the best A game in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 19:02
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What is this 'flavor' you speak of? What makes it different from any other part of the game? Of course Avernum 3 was full of generic towns, it took place in the Empire! It made perfect sense, after all, if you tried to by anything more than 'Weaponsmith' you ran the risk of being thrown into Avernum. I think the blandness added as much to the atmosphere, if not more, than losing your food (which was much better in Nethergate than either Avernum or Exile anyway). -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
Phariton = Monarch? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 18:57
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But surely Jeff would take advantage of such a story in the actual game. Monarch would have been more interesting if it was revealed that he was Phariton or Goetssch or Spharon or whoever. The fact that Jeff left it ambiguous mean he is probably not anyone we already know. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
Phariton = Monarch? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 18:35
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It doesn't really make sense for Monarch to be a returning NPC. After all, why wouldn't Jeff just keep the name the same if it were the same guy? Name recognition is powerful, and it makes no sense to change a character's name and give no hints to it being the same person, it loses it's power. The PC, on the other hand, does not have a specified name. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
what is the best A game in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 17:56
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What is so good about Dark Waters? Hydras and undead? Crystal soul tombs and Vahnatai sleeping chambers? Rapids? Do you just really like boats? Please explain the fascination to me. I enjoyed Avernum 2 as well, but mostly because of the bizarre Empire forts. I loved those. But even those were surpassed by Avernum 3's dungeons. You just can't beat the Filth Factory. Rentar is a genius. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
The canister effect... in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 17:50
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Clearly there is no cure because there is no problem to be cured. You can cloud your mind with emotions and sympathy if you try really hard like Litalia (who also became annoyingly aloof in the process), but that's really just a step backwards. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
what is the best A game in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 16:04
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Alright, now you're all just picking Avernum 2 out of peer pressure. This is a mispole. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
what is the best A game in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 14:34
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Averum 3 had the biggest world, the best dungeons, and the most interesting plot. I don't understand why people prefer Avernum 2. Is it because it introduced the vahnatai? No, most people always complain about the vahnatai, and how they are always used as a deus ex machina. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
Hypothetical Greek Weapons of Mass Destruction Suck in General | |
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written Thursday, March 1 2007 09:14
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Hmm, I wonder how much oil Chile has... -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
Shaper/Lifecrafter. in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Wednesday, February 28 2007 21:04
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Shaping is just learned like anything else is learned, requiring much patience and skill. The games never really say anthing about certain people being born more naturally adept at shaping than others, so it's probably just largly based on your intelligence. As for shapers tending to be loners, that's probably a side affect of the arrogance that comes with the job. Lord Rahul was a lord as well, so his marriage could also have been a legal or customary matter rather than a romantic one. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
The canister effect... in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Wednesday, February 28 2007 20:54
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Well, you wouldn't need to save and buff up if you just used more canisters, lots more. Same applies to all those situations. There are not really better ways to resolve them, the only people you ever really attack are rogues and bandits and things like that. They all deserve what they get. In fact, are there any incidents of canister users attacking innocent people on record at all? -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
The canister effect... in Geneforge 4: Rebellion | |
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written Wednesday, February 28 2007 19:18
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No, they help you to see more clearly. The result is that you have less patience with those who deserve less patience. I wouldn't call it a problem, since you only ever freak out on people who deserve it, they practically ask for it, even. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |