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| Displayed name | Eldibs |
| Member number | 1468 |
| Title | Lifecrafter |
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| Homepage | http://www.eldibs.sphosting.com/ |
| Registered | Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Sunday, August 28 2005 15:50
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well, you might not be a nerd, Toenail, you could just be a geek. And there is a difference between geek and nerd. Geeks have social skills, nerds don't -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Sunday, August 28 2005 15:47
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tell me exaclty what you did to get to that point -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Sunday, August 28 2005 15:36
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please note that this could take anywhere from 10 minutes to several hours, so you should probably do this before you go to bed, and let it run overnight restart your computer, and while it's booting up, keep pressing F8 until you get an options menu. In that menu should be an option that says 'Command Prompt Only'. Choose it. wait for a few moments to let it load the command prompt. When it finishes you should se a line of text at the bottom that looks like this: C:\> When you get there, type "scandisk c: /surface /autofix", so it should look like this: C:\>scandisk c: /surface /autofix press enter, and let it run. that should fix the hard drive space problem BTW, my comp runs only the required programs upon bootup, has 512 mb of ram, and it takes like 750 mb of hard drive space for virtual memory. I think what it does is reserve space on the hard drive for virtual memory when you boot up [ Sunday, August 28, 2005 15:40: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Sunday, August 28 2005 15:27
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I feel sorry for anyone who is stupid enough to think that anyone on this forum cares whether some immature nerd likes them or not -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, August 27 2005 17:15
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what operating system are you using? -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Friday, August 26 2005 15:17
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It has roughly 10X the amount of people in my home town. Man, I'm glad I'm in a technical college. My classes are all like 15-25 people [ Friday, August 26, 2005 18:09: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Friday, August 26 2005 03:55
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quote:All of my classes are the traditional format. I don't think I have a class with more than 20 people in it. [ Friday, August 26, 2005 03:57: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Thursday, August 25 2005 17:39
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They may be licensed, but that doesn't mean that public school teachers are professionals. I taught more QBASIC (programming language) than I learned in my computer class in high school. But, like it has been previously stated, college is wayyyy better. The chicken strips in the cafeteria are made of REAL chicken, and not that pressed crap Chicken McNuggets are made of. We get real shrimp too! quote:It varies from college to college, and sometimes from class to class. Like, I have a class I have only on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and then another at a different time on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, but all my others I have the same time every day Mon-Fri. [ Thursday, August 25, 2005 17:40: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Thursday, August 25 2005 07:40
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quote:I agree, college rules, and K-12 sucks! Well really, only 4-12 sucks, because K-3 was really easy. [ Thursday, August 25, 2005 07:54: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Thursday, August 25 2005 07:37
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you am not the best, i is the best!!1!1 But seriously, this is unusually spammy for someone whos member number is 22. And yes, this topic needs locking -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Wednesday, August 24 2005 08:13
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My little brother hates runescape also. Maybe it just takes a certain kind of person to enjoy runescape? -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Tuesday, August 23 2005 12:15
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why would you waste time and energy flinging it into the sun? Why not just give it a little push away from earth, and let it float out into deep space. -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Monday, August 22 2005 15:20
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How about RuneScape? It's a MMORPG, but I've seen it work fine on a 28.8k connection. You can play it for free, or you can pay the $5 a month to get the other half of the feature. Basically you go around, kill stuff, build up your different skills (it has like 26 different skills you can use), etc... I find it unbelievably addicting. The only problems are 1: Like Guild Wars, it's plagued by incompetent youngsters 2: Every time you turn around everbody is trying to scam you out of your stuff. [ Tuesday, August 23, 2005 17:48: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Friday, July 1 2005 22:37
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My favorites are: motivated, happy, content, and neutral. in motivated, I am inspired to finish any current project im working on in happy and content, obviously I am happy and content and in neutral, its easier for me to concentrate on things. My favorite methods of cheering up are: Listening to my music as loud as possible, blowing stuff up with high caliber rifles, and watching violent cartoons (Tom & Jerry and Acme Hour come to mind) -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, June 11 2005 22:00
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I think that was the longest conflict about stealing Alorael's sig ever. It was fun for a while, but then I started to run out of stuff to say in the sig. But, like I said, I won't do it again. [ June 12, 2005, 12:00 AM: Message edited by: Eldibs ] [Edit: I just put the old edit tag back in and decided to say that I was here. —Alorael, who was here.] [ Sunday, June 12, 2005 17:10: Message edited by: Another Season ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, June 11 2005 21:46
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I remember Mana Flare. That was a cool card. Then there was Extinction (black sorcery declare a creature type, bury all creatures of that type). I liked Angelic Chorus and Serra Avatar (creature with str. and toughness equal to your health when it's summoned, if it goes to the graveyard you automatically reshuffle it into your deck). Bring out Angelic Chorus, then Serra Avatar, and your health is instantly doubled. Personally, I preferred a Black/White combo deck. With black you got lots of instant death cards and Spirit of the Night (7/6 flying black creature, protection from black), with white you got all the healing and damage prevention cards, along with the Disenchant card. -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, June 11 2005 21:35
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Sorry for not finishing the post, I got distracted, then thought I had finished it. I don't even remember what I was going to say next, so I clipped that part out. —Eldibs, who promises not steal Alorael's sig anymore after this post. [ Saturday, June 11, 2005 21:36: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, June 11 2005 15:29
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Or I could just wait for his food and water to run out so I could go get more. Of course, I wouldn't have to go get food or water for a couple years though. Luckily I bought that 3 years supply of Ramen Noodles for $5.35 —Eldibs, who thinks he might have to set up his DNA tracking auto turrets to keep people away from his box when he's out -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, June 11 2005 15:13
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Nope, after I entered it, it became completely sealed, and can only be reopened by my thought patterns thinking a certain password, my fingerprint being scanned, and my retinas getting scanned all at the same time. Oh, and electromagnetic waves would probably get stopped by 20 inches of adamantium. I mean, if a sparse wall of trees around my house can stop them, why not a thick wall of metal. —Eldibs, who thinks he might hold a record for stealing Alorael's sig the most number of times. [ Saturday, June 11, 2005 15:15: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, June 11 2005 15:03
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My adamantium room is between a power plant, a nuclear power plant, and and a scrap yard. That deals with electromagnetic problems. —Eldibs, who thinks that he could take on a sniper in an urban area with lots of cover, but none of it above 1 story high, if he was using his Mega Missle Launcher. [ Saturday, June 11, 2005 21:32: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, June 11 2005 14:56
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Here's what I would do: 1)I would get a bunch of the students together (as many as you can) 2)Then we (me and the group of students) would refuse to do anything we are told. Be generally disobedient, but not physically disruptive. 3)Get a small digital camera (I've seen some el-cheapo's for as low as $40) and have it ready to record anything as soon as it happens 4)Wait for something to happen, and record it 5)Show video to parents and authorities -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, June 11 2005 14:41
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I used to play it all the time, back before it started sucking. I remember the classic reoccurring nightmare deck. A Blue Whale coupled with an Angelic Chorus, Reoccurring Nightmare, and an Urza's Dragoons was unstoppable. Blue Whale: 7/7 3 colorless 4 blue (I think) when it comes into play you untap 7 mana Angelic Chorus: white global enchantment, when you bring a creature into play, you gain life equal to it's toughness Reoccurring Nightmare: black global enchantment, 2 colorless, 1 black mana, return it to your hand to switch a creature in play with one in your graveyard Urza's Dragoons: white 2/5 creature give's you five health when it comes into play [ Saturday, June 11, 2005 14:42: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, June 11 2005 14:17
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I won't run out of air. It's self-contained, remember? Another thing I just noticed: most people, when they steal Alorael's sig, put a space between the dash and they're name, when there should be no space. —Eldibs, who wonders how somebody would blow down a room of 20-inch thick adamantium with just their breath. It's has to be heavier than the brick house, and it didn't get blown in. And I still won't let you in, not by the hair on my chinny chin chin! [ Saturday, June 11, 2005 14:28: Message edited by: Eldibs ] -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, June 11 2005 12:56
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He was working on a fifth one? Dang. That's too bad we'll never get to read it as it was meant to be read. -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |
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written Saturday, June 11 2005 11:27
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Since zellie mentioned The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, I have to mention these: Restaurant at the End of the Universe Life, the Universe, and Everything So Long, and Thanks For All the Fish they are also by Dougles Adams, and are continuations (I think that't the right word) of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Also you should read Interesting Times by Terry Pratchet. It's pretty funny too. -------------------- "We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box." "Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15 The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive. Currently boycotting: AngelFire, GameFAQ's Everybody should go to this site at least once. Posts: 818 | Registered: Tuesday, July 9 2002 07:00 |