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My CD drive no longer spins disks in order to read them. Is there any way to fix this without replacing any computer parts?

[ Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:17: Message edited by: Zephyr Tempest ]

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I don't think so. Something probably just... snapped. More information, please?

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Any computer component with moving parts will fail fairly often. All disk drives have moving parts. Therefore, they will fail fairly often. Unless you have a good reason to suspect it's a software problem, it's probably a hardware problem and fixing it will involve replacing parts. Sorry.

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I had this problem just a little bit ago, and the problem was matter of fact the disk drive itself, as Thuryl said. If other CDs won't work either, you can't blame it on the game. I got a new CD drive, and everything works fine now.

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There is another problem. After uninstalling a game,
my computer reported that it had 2.3 gigabytes of space left. Then, after restarting my computer to attempt to get it to read a CD, it reported that it had 1.18 gigabytes left (and after download a file that was 105 megabytes). What could have caused this sudden drop in avaliable space? I didn't install anything and the downloaded file was not large enough to take up 1.12 gigabytes.

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An inaccurate space reading, either before or after?

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Before or after what?

The chances of the space reading being of by 1.12 gigabytes seems very unlikely. I had more space before I uninstalled the game (about 250 megabytes more than I have now, and I know that I downloaded something).

Why was this moved to general? Is Technical support for Spidweb-related stuff only?

After checking the size of all folders on the C drive, I should have 2.6033789 gigabytes left. Yet, Only 1.17 gigabytes free space is displayed.

[ Saturday, August 27, 2005 14:19: Message edited by: Zephyr Tempest ]

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what operating system are you using?

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empty the bin and defrag the drive

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I use Windows 98 and my recycling bin is empty. I guess defragmentation will be necessary.

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For your cd-drive, if you can't get it to work, as a last ditch effort you could get a firmware update. It could fix it, or if it's working turn it into an expensive paperweight.
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What about virtual memory? (do they have that on PCs?) On macs, sometimes the OS uses disk space as RAM, which results in less disk space being available for files. That may or may not be the problem here; I'm not sure if Windows does the same thing or, if it does, whether that would be reflected in the available space.

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Windows does indeed use virtual memory, although he'd have to have an awful lot of programs open at once to reduce available HD space by a gigabyte.

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please note that this could take anywhere from 10 minutes to several hours, so you should probably do this before you go to bed, and let it run overnight

restart your computer, and while it's booting up, keep pressing F8 until you get an options menu. In that menu should be an option that says 'Command Prompt Only'. Choose it. wait for a few moments to let it load the command prompt. When it finishes you should se a line of text at the bottom that looks like this:

C:\>

When you get there, type "scandisk c: /surface /autofix", so it should look like this:

C:\>scandisk c: /surface /autofix

press enter, and let it run. that should fix the hard drive space problem

BTW, my comp runs only the required programs upon bootup, has 512 mb of ram, and it takes like 750 mb of hard drive space for virtual memory. I think what it does is reserve space on the hard drive for virtual memory when you boot up

[ Sunday, August 28, 2005 15:40: Message edited by: Eldibs ]

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quote:
Originally written by Eldibs:


When you get there, type "scandisk c: /surface /autofix", so it should look like this:

C:\>scandisk c: /surface /autofix

press enter, and let it run. that should fix the hard drive space problem

I received this oddly worded error when I attempted that fix:

You typed parameters that are invalid for scandisk for windows.

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tell me exaclty what you did to get to that point

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"Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15

The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive.

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Or you could try Start - Programs - Accessories - System Tools - Scan Disk (or Disk Cleanup, or whatever it says).

Hmmm. Anyway, I never knew a computer could use a HD for RAM. I'd wager it's quite a bit slower memory when it has to resort to that.

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It's a matter of balance: up to a certain point, Virtual Memory makes the computer run faster because it effectively doubles your RAM, giving much quicker access to data. However, when your system RAM is low compared to your requirements, too much VM is required and you're constantly swapping RAM for disk space, which is slow.

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quote:
Or you could try Start - Programs - Accessories - System Tools - Scan Disk (or Disk Cleanup, or whatever it says).
No! You never want to run Scandisk from Windows, unless the DOS (Command Prompt) version tells you to do so. It's slower, and IMO less stable and tells you less about what it is doing.
And Virtual Memory doesn't make the computer run faster at all, it makes it run slower. It just lets it run more (or bigger) programs than it could normally handle, by giving it more space

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"We can learn a lot from crayons. Some are short, some are dull, some are sharp, some are tall. Some have funny names and they are all different colors, but they all learn to live in the same box."

"Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15

The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive.

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The point about VM is we're talking multitasking operating systems. Having more memory (even virtual memory), you can run more processes at once. So jobs are finished quicker, i.e. your computer runs quicker. But only up to a point.

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Yes, but it only uses virtual memory if there isn't enough room in physical memory to store what it needs.

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"Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15

The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive.

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Scandisk didn't help at all. It scanned the C drive and said I was supposed to have approximately 1 gigabyte left, even though there's not enough stuff on my C drive to take up 17.6 gigabytes (one gigabyte less than the total capacity). :(

I'm going to have to use Disk Defragmenter.

[ Monday, August 29, 2005 08:21: Message edited by: Zephyr Tempest ]

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Windows detects no current errors, so Windows has decided
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When you selected all the files on your drive, did you have your computer set to show hidden and system files and folders?

[ Monday, August 29, 2005 09:14: Message edited by: Eldibs ]

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"Happy is the man that has wisdom and gets discernment. For having wisdom as gain is better than having silver as gain and having wisdom as produce is better than gold itself" Proverbs 3:14-3:15

The horrible part about life is, you'll never get out of it alive.

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Yes, I set my computer to show all hidden and system files a long time ago.

[ Monday, August 29, 2005 17:29: Message edited by: Zephyr Tempest ]

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*Blue screen error*
NONEXISTANT WINDOWS ERROR
Windows detects no current errors, so Windows has decided
to screw around with the files until one occurs.

If you never rise against your oppressor, then you've already lost.
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I wonder if possibly a section of your hard drive was damaged or something. I suppose that would limit access to certain files to that section, if you've experienced any such problem.

Or maybe something was automatically installed on your computer via the Internet. You know, Windows Updates, service packs, etc.

If disk defragmenter doesn't help the situation out, you may just have to accept the fact that your hard drive has only one gigabyte of space left.

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