How do you like your creation army to be?
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Apprentice
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written Sunday, August 14 2005 07:25
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I am looking to see how people like to have their groups of creations like. Feel free to elaborate why you vote what you voted. I prefer to use stuff that is well worth the essence cost. You all know that some higher costing creations are just leveled up versions and have no benefits. Variety of creations is good... multiple damage types are good... always one weakness... Poison does full damage to those magi with 50% resist in everything else! Ranged I like. Get to strike quick, and easier to pursue. But they die more, due to weaker tanking capabilities. Fire... tough, strong... and ranged. No stunning can be an issue, but that's what daze is for... no? [ Sunday, August 14, 2005 07:29: Message edited by: Wilowah ] Poll Information This poll contains 1 question(s). 31 user(s) have voted. You may not view the results of this poll without voting. function launch_voter () { launch_window("http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=poll;d=vote;pollid=dlVpfYsPlPTn"); return true; } // end launch_voter function launch_viewer () { launch_window("http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=poll;d=view;pollid=dlVpfYsPlPTn"); return true; } // end launch_viewer function launch_window (url) { preview = window.open( url, "preview", "width=550,height=300,toolbar=no,location=no,directories=no,status,menubar=no,scrollbars,resizable,copyhistory=no" ); window.preview.focus(); return preview; } // end launch_window   Posts: 12 | Registered: Friday, August 12 2005 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, August 14 2005 12:12
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For me, magical creations are my favourite. There are so many situations in geneforge when you need a ranged attack. The only time I make an exception is for rotghroths; they are awesome. As for the essence cost, I'm with those who prefer rotghroths to rothdizons and gazers to eye beasts, because the slightly souped-up creations are not worth the doubled essence cost. -------------------- "I can't read this thread with that image. But then, that's not a complaint." -Scorpius Geneforge 4 stuff. Also, everything I know about Avernum | Avernum 2 | Avernum 3 | Avernum 4 Posts: 1104 | Registered: Monday, March 10 2003 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Sunday, August 14 2005 13:08
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Since GF1 I've always taken two Drayks with me, and switched to Cryodrayks as soon as they became available; they are powerful, resilient, and have both melee and ranged attacks. My first creations are two Fyoras, and then two Cryoas, but just until I get the first Drayk canister. I have tried other creations, and I always take the tagalongs with me (like the rat in GF2). I always go back to Drayks/Cryodrayks though. Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
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Nuke and Pave
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written Sunday, August 14 2005 15:48
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I prefer ranged attackers, but always keep a couple of mellee creatures (Alwan/Thahd Shades) around. Ranged attacks are tactically better, but sometimes you can't avoid enemy's mellee fighters from getting to you and sometimes you want a couple of your creatures close to the enemy. As for creature types, I always go for whatever available creature gives the largest bang for the essence cost. I reabsorb old creatures as soon as I can spend the same amount of essence to make something stronger. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Monday, August 15 2005 12:33
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I don't use an army, I use only one creation, since a multitude of them eats my XP. I use whatever strongest creation is available for my prefered Shaping skill. -------------------- "..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days." Posts: 522 | Registered: Wednesday, May 4 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Monday, August 15 2005 18:40
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Hmm. Are you a guardian, Contra? Mentioning classes might help... I'm a Shaper, never played whole game through in any Geneforge with other classes yet. Posts: 12 | Registered: Friday, August 12 2005 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, August 16 2005 03:55
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I use one fyora at the beginning (as a Shaper), and keep her through to the end. Then I use a Vlish, and a Glaahk. Glaahk's are good for the stunning, and Vlish are good against turrets. Eventually, I'll trade in the Vlish for a drayk or Gazer. -------------------- And when you want to Live How do you start? Where do you go? Who do you need to know? Posts: 2864 | Registered: Monday, September 8 2003 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Tuesday, August 16 2005 05:33
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quote:This goes for whatever class I am playing. I never use more than one creation unless it is obviouse that one special encounter will not be handled by just one creation. In such a case,I make another one, then kill it right after said encounter have been dealth with. -------------------- "..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days." Posts: 522 | Registered: Wednesday, May 4 2005 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Tuesday, August 16 2005 08:55
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quote:I'm curious about the eating effect on your XP, Contra. With only 1 creation throughout, what level did you reach at the end of the game? Posts: 107 | Registered: Tuesday, April 19 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, August 16 2005 14:29
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In previous Geneforges I usually start out with an Artilla or two and maybe make some drayks/cyrodrayks/drakons near the end. Never really used anything else much, but I've always played as an agent. So far I've just kept Greta, and earlier Alwan as well (and didn't spend half my skill points for most of the game). Posts: 4 | Registered: Friday, April 29 2005 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Tuesday, August 16 2005 16:49
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quote:Never finished game as a Shaper or Guardian so far, but one creation eats roughly about 3 XP per 25 gained. This means 9 XP out of 25 with three creations. That is close to half of what you would normally gain. -------------------- "..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days." Posts: 522 | Registered: Wednesday, May 4 2005 07:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Tuesday, August 16 2005 20:48
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That's not quite how it works; the loss isn't linear. Besides, it all balances out eventually anyway, since high-level characters gain less experience. Even particularly creation-happy Shapers only end up about 5 levels below creationless Agents by the endgame. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, August 16 2005 23:55
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I always want value for my essence when shaping. Its no use otherwise. I also like having a manily melee creation paired with tag-alongs, like Alwan in GF3. -------------------- I'll put a Spring in your step. :ph34r: Posts: 2396 | Registered: Saturday, January 29 2005 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Thursday, August 18 2005 10:56
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I never create costly creations. I only have 2 or 3 creations, almost always ranged or fire creations. -------------------- How many shapers are there? Why is Drypeak controlled by Zakary? Why is Barzahl a Guardian? How does the Geneforge work? What's as small as nothing? Why am I asking stupid questions? -------------------------------- Shaper teacher : "DON'T TOUCH THAT!" BOOM!! apprentice :*little voice* "Sorry..." --------------------------- CSM RIFQ Neopets Do join, it's fun. Do you know what is the answer to the greatest question ever? It's here. Posts: 576 | Registered: Wednesday, March 2 2005 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, August 18 2005 21:34
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Do the picked up creations like alwan and greta eat up your XPs? I think I had tested it when I first picked up Alwan and it didn't seem to change the xp point either way. It might be different with your shaping creatures though. I have tried shaper way back in G1 and just could never manage it. So I get bored and started with guardian and then agent. I am now happy with being the agent. Posts: 266 | Registered: Wednesday, November 12 2003 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Friday, August 19 2005 07:58
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i am pretty sure they do. teh text at the bottom of the screen still shows you gaining the same amount, it's the amount that your character's XP changes by that is affected. so, for example, it might say you gained 13 XP, but you only actually get 6 (in my case. but that's with 7 creations). presumably greta and alwan work the same way. Posts: 109 | Registered: Sunday, August 14 2005 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Monday, August 22 2005 03:43
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I'm pleased to see most people prefer magic creations. I (as a shaper) don't use other creations at all. I have an extra-agile Alwan, but all he has to do is to lure the rogues into my trap. They are good enough at melee to take down fellow magical creations. Posts: 20 | Registered: Saturday, July 30 2005 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Monday, August 22 2005 08:19
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if you add a couple of terror vlish into your group, they are able to take down most magical creations pretty easily, since they do poison damage instead of magical damage. and of course, if you use artilas then you just have to wait for the acid to catch up to them, and they will die. i haven't yet had a chance to use gazers/eyebeasts yet, but i expect they will be pretty good too =D Posts: 109 | Registered: Sunday, August 14 2005 07:00 |