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Why do the haakai cast priest spells if they are demons? :confused:

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To mess with our heads. :D :P :D

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They're priests of the evil gods.

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Because they're just that powerful.

If only they could cast Repel Spirit... that would make the contradiction so much better.

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Well instead of Haakai using priest spells they should cast more advance mage spells like arcane blow.

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It would make them more difficult to fight if they could cast spells like arcane shield.

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Originally written by Bomber:

It would make them more difficult to fight if they could cast spells like arcane shield.
Arcane Shield and Repel Spirit have been almost conclusively proved (If I haven't forgotten) to be non-castable by NPCs. And just because a monster becomes tougher doesn't mean the combat is better.

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yes, i agree. If the foe is tougher, I generally don't like to fight it. if it is weak but has some special things to defend itself, making it more interesting, then i wont complain.

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Originally written by Notye but Neyse:

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It would make them more difficult to fight if they could cast spells like arcane shield.
Arcane Shield and Repel Spirit have been almost conclusively proved (If I haven't forgotten) to be non-castable by NPCs. And just because a monster becomes tougher doesn't mean the combat is better.

Maybe Arcane Shield is a bit too hard. The duration of the spell comes from the user´s power. If Haakais could use that spell, they would cast it about every 3 rounds and so they are completely invulnerable.

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I agree Haakis are hard enough for weak NPC's
also you need Repel spirit L3 in order to damage Demons and haakies :P
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I'm pretty shur there demons that know preist spells
Liches know top 3 preist spells and there an undead
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If Haakais could use that spell, they would cast it about every 3 rounds and so they are completely invulnerable.
I imagine that they'd be no worse than those giant chiefs with invulnerability potions. Those things last forever. At least you can still do some damage through an Arcane Shield.

And at least no NPC ever, ever, EVER cast Sanctuary in A2. That'd have been unpleasant.

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Originally written by Ephesos:

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If Haakais could use that spell, they would cast it about every 3 rounds and so they are completely invulnerable.
I imagine that they'd be no worse than those giant chiefs with invulnerability potions. Those things last forever. At least you can still do some damage through an Arcane Shield.

Once Arcane shield reaches a certain level, it grants invulnerability. So you then wouldn't be able to do some damage through an Arcane Shield.
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And at least no NPC ever, ever, EVER cast Sanctuary in A2. That'd have been unpleasant.
I never really understood what Sanctuary and Mass Sanctuary did. Could someone please explain?

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Originally written by Notye but Neyse:

...Mass Sanctuary...
Sounds like an Exile spell. Probably is. Can't help you with that, unfortunately.

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I never really understood what Sanctuary...did. Could someone please explain?
At higher levels sanctuary gives you martyr's shield. Every time an enemy hits you, they hurt themselves to a lesser degree. Sanctuary also protects you from melee attacks. (It should protect you from ranged attacks, but the code for that is buggy.)

It protects you from melee attacks by not letting them happen. Once you have attacked though, the effect of being 'untouchable' wears off. (You still keep the martyr's shield and other effects that the sanctuary spell gave you until they wear off naturally.)

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And at least no NPC ever, ever, EVER cast Sanctuary in A2. That'd have been unpleasant.
Acually slith priests did cast santurary in A2(or is it A1)

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Bomber's right- NPCs cast both AS and Sanctuary. Wizards, for example, love pissing the party off by making themselves or their demon summons invulnerable.

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Mass Santuary is actually a spell from Exile with nearly the same effect, like said before. The only difference is that M. S. from Exile does give you ONLY the "untouchable skin".

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Originally written by Slith Lord:

Mass Santuary is actually a spell from Exile with nearly the same effect, like said before. The only difference is that M. S. from Exile does give you ONLY the "untouchable skin".
So if I understand this right, there's a Santuary/MS spell in the Avernum world as well as Exile? Hmmm. I thought that was dropped.

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It's in A1 and A2, but not in A3 or BoA (although the status is still there, just not the spell).

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Haakai use the power of the dark gods!!
Example:in exile they always used the damn Unholy ravage, the evil counter part of the Holy ravage that you can use.

And you said that Arcane shield can't be casted in npcs?? I have never realized that really, but I think that it's obvious, but Garzard used that spell tough. :rolleyes:
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Originally by Bomber: Acually slith priests did cast santurary in A2(or is it A1)
In my experience, Slith Priests love to cast sanctuary on themselves and their surrounding allies. Quite annoying, actually, but not too harmful.

Dikiyoba, who didn't find sanctuary to be too useful because it wears off the moment you attack. Heal and Mass Heal were so much more useful, really.
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And you said that Arcane shield can't be casted in npcs?? I have never realized that really, but I think that it's obvious, but Garzard used that spell tough. :rolleyes: [/QB]
I keep on mixing up BoA with A1-3. That's probably why I'm always making confused posts in this thread.

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Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Dikiyoba, who didn't find sanctuary to be too useful because it wears off the moment you attack. Heal and Mass Heal were so much more useful, really.
Right, that's Aloraels's text: his "identification" sort of thing. its the only thing I know its Alorael. i recommend coming up with something different.

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I don't sign most of them that way. And I already apologized to Alorael for signing a few of my posts that way. The wording just sounded awkward the way I prefer to sign this time around.

Dikiyoba usually prefers to sign off more like this, which is a little different, at least. And Dikiyoba is not Alorael and should not confuse people like that. But enough about me. Let's talk about Haakai some more...

Edit: Fix awkward sentence.

[ Monday, December 26, 2005 13:24: Message edited by: Dikiyoba ]
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