which is the best? shapers, agents, or guardians

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AuthorTopic: which is the best? shapers, agents, or guardians
Apprentice
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Agents r the best, cause they have ranged and hand-to-hand combat skills. besides, the shapers r frail and weak. a light breeze could take away half of their HP
Posts: 6 | Registered: Monday, November 29 2004 08:00
Agent
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I personally like Shapers because you can build walls of creatures to defend you. Then you just zap individual enemies with firebolt or searer.

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They all have their ups and downs. I have to go with shapers. Personally, I think they're the most fun, simply because they're the best at creating creatures. :)

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Posts: 394 | Registered: Saturday, November 20 2004 08:00
Apprentice
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maybe, but now im playing G2 with a shaper and its going ok, so i'll c if u guys r right...
Posts: 6 | Registered: Monday, November 29 2004 08:00
Warrior
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Shapers are only weak at the start of the game, towards the end I could do similar damage with spells as my agent and have my army of creations to kill everything. Also guardians rock, its nice to kill barzel 1 hit from your quick action hitting 300 twice :cool:

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Posts: 169 | Registered: Wednesday, September 24 2003 07:00
Apprentice
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My thought is guardians because they seem to have the most skill points at the start of the game and are all-around good, as in the aren't bad at shaping, casting or hand-to-hand combat.

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Posts: 34 | Registered: Saturday, November 13 2004 08:00
Apprentice
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agents all the way

agents are the best 'cause they have the shaping skills and the fighting skills well then again their not quite as good at fighting as guardians and not quite as good a shaping as shapers

hmmm well i still like agents.

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Posts: 12 | Registered: Saturday, November 13 2004 08:00
Warrior
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The agent is probably the most COMBAT CAPABLE character. For example, if you take away the shaping skills, you have what the character by him/herself contributes to the battle. Shapers have one OK skill and one bad skill. Guardians have one good and one bad. Agents have one good and one ok skill. Therefore, agents are the best when by themselves. It does not mean that they are the best characters overall. It just means they need the least amount of help, which is probably why they have such weak shaping skill. The simply don't need a massive army. A shaper needs creations because by himself, he just plain sucks. And a Guardian....well you get the idea.

[ Monday, December 06, 2004 13:20: Message edited by: Learned Noremac ]

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Posts: 96 | Registered: Tuesday, May 4 2004 07:00
Apprentice
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I prefer the Agent. I can do nearly the the entire game with little or no help, and since I'm a strange person who's concerned about the welfare of little electronic creatures, I like not having to worry about any of them.

I took a roamer and the thlad out of bondage and "freed" them in the woods. How weird is that?

Mac
Posts: 25 | Registered: Wednesday, June 9 2004 07:00
Warrior
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I suggest you get a real pet. Or professional help. Or both. :D

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Posts: 104 | Registered: Thursday, September 16 2004 07:00
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Guardians are by far the strongest the agent would have to give up their incredible magic capability and shapers their shaping to get the 5 best skills in the game Strength, Endurence, Melee Wepons, QA and the magnificent, the legendary.............. *******PARRY*******.

[ Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:16: Message edited by: Ghaldrings_doom ]

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I AM A MINOTAUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM INVADING THE SHAPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL SHALL FALL TO MY WRATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posts: 626 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Warrior
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Shaper of course its like ur a new demigod :D

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Posts: 54 | Registered: Wednesday, July 6 2005 07:00
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With guardian its like you are the king god.

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I AM A MINOTAUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM INVADING THE SHAPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL SHALL FALL TO MY WRATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posts: 626 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Triad Mage
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Ghaldring, don't revive old topics, especially when there is a new topic already discussing this issue.

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Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00
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Sorry, I just klike argueing with everyone that guardians are the best and no one is posting anything on the other topic.

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I AM A MINOTAUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM INVADING THE SHAPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL SHALL FALL TO MY WRATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posts: 626 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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Guardians, of course. Parry in G2 is a gamebreaker.

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Posts: 522 | Registered: Wednesday, May 4 2005 07:00
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I'm with you on that one Contra.

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I AM A MINOTAUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM INVADING THE SHAPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL SHALL FALL TO MY WRATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posts: 626 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Infiltrator
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Just what percent does parry cap at, how many points does that take, and are there things it can't block?

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Nuke and Pave
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Max Parry, achieved at around level 17 (I don't remember exactly), gives you:

50% chance to reflect enemy's attack back onto him (makes tough enemies kill themselves, but doesn't work on ranged attacks)

50% chance to completely avoid attack

50% chance to strongly decrease damage (resulting in almost no damage if you are wearing heavy armor)

So with maxed out Parry, you have only 12.5% chance of taking damage from a successful melee hit and 25% of taking damage from a successful long range hit.

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Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
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SHAPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!SHAPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!SHAPERS!!!!!!!

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Posts: 507 | Registered: Tuesday, March 1 2005 08:00
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When it comes down to a fight the guardian would win every time. If both were loyalist the guardian would plough through battle alphas and glaahks and chop up the shaper or parry spells and chop up the agent. As canister user the guardian would plough through Ur-Drakons, Rotdhizons and eyebeasts then chop the shaper up or take the hits from the spell and chop the agent up. :cool: :D :cool: :D :P :eek:

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I AM A MINOTAUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM INVADING THE SHAPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL SHALL FALL TO MY WRATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posts: 626 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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quote:
Originally written by Ghaldrings_doom:

When it comes down to a fight the guardian would win every time. If both were loyalist the guardian would plough through battle alphas and glaahks and chop up the shaper or parry spells and chop up the agent. As canister user the guardian would plough through Ur-Drakons, Rotdhizons and eyebeasts then chop the shaper up or take the hits from the spell and chop the agent up. :cool: :D :cool: :D :P :eek:
You wish

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Posts: 507 | Registered: Tuesday, March 1 2005 08:00
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quote:
quote:
Originally written by Ghaldrings_doom:
When it comes down to a fight the guardian would win every time. If both were loyalist the guardian would plough through battle alphas and glaahks and chop up the shaper or parry spells and chop up the agent. As canister user the guardian would plough through Ur-Drakons, Rotdhizons and eyebeasts then chop the shaper up or take the hits from the spell and chop the agent up.
You wish

No Actually I dont wish.

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I AM A MINOTAUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM INVADING THE SHAPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL SHALL FALL TO MY WRATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posts: 626 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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High QA will allow the Guardian to go first. Guardian can pump out drayks to handle the shapers creation, then just rush up and kill the shaper with one strike.

If the Shaper is not within range, hideing somewhere, the guardian can just let hsi creations take the biggest hit of the Shapers creations, and then finish them off with his high damage-deaing attacks.

G2 Parry makes the guardian almost invincible, not to mention all those HP and armor %.

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