What do you think I should do?
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Guardian
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written Wednesday, May 21 2003 20:26
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It has come to my attention that my source of income has become much smaller than the amount of work I do. The main reason for this is the simple fact that my business partner has been ripping me off and keeping most of the money for himself, despite the fact that I end up doing most of the work. I could simply quit, but then I would have to get regular job and learn how to do really stupid junk. I could also simply go independant, but due to the fact that I can't drive and don't have a car even if I could drive it would be difficult at best. Basically, I want to know what you think about my situation and what you think I should do. [ Wednesday, May 21, 2003 20:28: Message edited by: Lone Flame ] Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, May 21 2003 20:28
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LF, didn't you say on Desp that you're 16 and broke? Where the hell did this come from? -------------------- desperance.net -- Come on in, we don't bite. Well, I don't. Posts: 218 | Registered: Saturday, July 13 2002 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, May 21 2003 20:30
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It might help to know what he actually does. -------------------- ~ §øСüm ©ÿªñ¡Ðë ~ Mission Ridge -- All Your Snow Are Belong to Us. Posts: 1277 | Registered: Monday, June 24 2002 07:00 |
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Babelicious
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written Wednesday, May 21 2003 20:33
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My response is for you to stick it in the sun, but that's my response for everything you say. -------------------- desperance.net - honestly, no biting. Posts: 1074 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, May 21 2003 21:15
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A. WTF to you do? B. If he's ripping you off he's not your friend. C. normal jobs are, well, normal. Life is doing useless, retarded, idiotic, and otherwise pointless things, most which come for any type of work. D. The economy is fried and cripled, everone is getting paid less then what they should, all but Washington D.C. (Bush, Senators, gov't officials, etc.) E. to answer your question, YES. F. Hawkgirl, being broke and having a job have nothing to do with each other. I have a job, and i'm still broke (waste to much money on mainly pointless things, girlfriend, bad betts, and going to see movies). One of my friends has no job, to speak of, but he always has money :confused: . G. Finaly, LF, if things get realy bad, kill your partner, steal all the money and join Alorael in sniping people. H. ... :cool: ... -------------------- click: Necromanser Title: Necromancer ^ is for Roh Zee Kat Posts: 86 | Registered: Wednesday, May 7 2003 07:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Wednesday, May 21 2003 23:25
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quote:Y'know, I liked you a lot more when I thought you were 12 years old. -------------------- I believe there are 15 747 724 136 275 002 577 105 653 961 181 555 468 044 717 914 527 116 709 366 231 425 076 185 631 031 296 protons in the universe, and the same number of electrons. -- Sir Arthur Eddington Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 01:09
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Broke? Put more ice in your lemonade. I'm with you Thuryl. When I thought he was 11 I could excuse his comically pointless posts. Still, now he's fair game. -------------------- "This stolen joke proves I have a sense of humour!" "This tired old proverb proves I am profound" "This hyperlink to someone who doesn't know me proves I am popular!" Nothing like a bandwagon. Except maybe irony. Posts: 159 | Registered: Monday, December 3 2001 08:00 |
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One Thousand Slimy Things
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 01:14
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So...we can...break him? REALLY?! *Jumps around happily* I feel like a kiddy button-smashing console player again! -------------------- KhothMk2: You don't get 72 virgin camels though Posts: 995 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 01:20
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Gentlemen, start your engines... -------------------- "This stolen joke proves I have a sense of humour!" "This tired old proverb proves I am profound" "This hyperlink to someone who doesn't know me proves I am popular!" Nothing like a bandwagon. Except maybe irony. Posts: 159 | Registered: Monday, December 3 2001 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 01:59
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Maybe he delivers newspapers. In which case he could still be quite young, be losing money on little bets with his friend i.e. 'I bet you a dollar he can't...', and have a childhood girlfriend. [ Thursday, May 22, 2003 02:02: Message edited by: Lt. Sullust ] -------------------- Lt. Sullust Cogito Ergo Sum Polaris Posts: 2462 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 07:43
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that is very possible. Sidenote: I never said my business partner was my friend. Actually the term business partner implies that they aren't your friend. As for my occupation, I'm a lawn care specialist. Translation: I cut people's yards. My partner gives me rides to the far off spots and helps me out. In turn I supply the mowers and gas. Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 07:55
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quote:I also have a job and am still broke. I spend too much of my income on things like rent, groceries, electricity, transport costs, etc. quote:Not necessarily. I wouldn't go into business with someone who wasn't my friend, or at least someone I got on well with and thought I could trust. Have you tried talking to your partner, asking him to explain the discrepancy in income? Have you tried renegotiating with him how the profits are split? Best not to do it when you're feeling angry, as anger can be counter productive - he may decide he doesn't need you, and it sounds like you need him to transport you and the mower to some of your customers. [ Thursday, May 22, 2003 08:14: Message edited by: Kyna ] -------------------- We meet and part now over all the world; we, the lost company, take hands together in the night, forget the night in our brief happiness, silently. -- Judith Wright My website Posts: 512 | Registered: Wednesday, February 12 2003 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 09:10
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quote:Just curious here...who collects the money from the customer, you or your partner? Are you present to get/see how much was given? If not this may be something to start doing so you have a better idea what money is changing hands. Have you tried, as Kyna suggested, to speak with your partner (keep it businesslike and professional) about how much comes in/goes out (he needs gas, the mowers need gas/maintenance) and verify what is being paid to each of you? It never hurts to "go over the books" with each other. Reading what you've said so far leads me to believe that: 1) Your partner collects the money, not you 2) Your partner decides how much to give you and 3) Not sure if you know how much is going to where. If I am wrong, I apologize, I am only going on the little information that's been posted. If these are close to true, definitely it is time to talk with your partner and decide on who gets what and when. John Posts: 97 | Registered: Friday, April 18 2003 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 09:57
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The thing is I've just got talking to my partner, and it didn't work. But ya know what, I shouldn't have started a business with a family member anyway. Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 10:57
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Have you thought about getting a new partner? Now that you have learned some of the potential problems, you can make a good deal right up front. Something like: we take out gas money etc and split the rest 50/50 might work. It couldn't hurt! John Posts: 97 | Registered: Friday, April 18 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 11:08
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If you're dealing with a family member, then you may be able to extract money by pestering adults about it. If that bothers you, you can always try blackmail. If that doesn't work either, then it's time to look for a new business partner anyway. I'd wait a little while before giving up on a relative, though. Family disputes can be quite ugly, but they're also often easier to resolve than conflicts with relative strangers. If talking once didn't work, talk again later. Maybe you weren't angry, but your partner might have been. —Alorael, who is unwilling to share his sniping with LF. For one thing, the profits aren't good enough that he wants to split them. For another thing, he'd be likely to snipe first and give job interviews later. [ Thursday, May 22, 2003 16:44: Message edited by: Alorael ] Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 13:17
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I find it odd that you mention Zephyr, as he hasn't posted in this thread, but would be glad if you would generously donate some sniping to his charity. Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 16:45
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I have been having name problems recently, Feran. —Alorael, who did that last one intentionally. He knows that it was Scorp who posted, not Feran. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Thursday, May 22 2003 20:12
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Well, blackmail's out of the question. I'm refering to dealing with a family member who is smarter and slicker than I am. Talking later might do the trick, if not I'm just gonna have ta work a smaller, more local area. Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, May 23 2003 06:01
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Hey, it sounds like he does the same sot of work as in 'Lawn Dogs'. You could develop an untaxed sideline as a gigolo with cutomers you meet through your regular work. Can't be bad, eh? Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00 |
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Fire! Fire! Fire! Fire!
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written Friday, May 23 2003 16:08
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Oh God... this remiinds me of my own family... my father and his brother owned a local Ben and Jerry's (ice cream, for any poor fool who doesn't already know). My dad had more control over the whole thing, and he eventually decided to sell the business, just not the building. My uncle was very angry about this, and to make a long story short, the only real uncle I have is on my mother's side. My father's brother hates my father, and couldn't care less about his sister in law or his niece and nephew. This has caused my grandfather and aunt an unbelievable amount of stress, and I could swear that my uncle is crazy sometimes, he gets so mad. The moral of this story is, DON'T JUST PULL OUT WITHOUT MUTUAL AGREEMENT. I don't know exactly who in your family this person is, but I can tell you that you don't want him to be like my uncle, and you yourself don't want to be like my uncle either. As for suggestions: talk it over, don't make any decisions quickly no matter how sensible they may seem, and make sure that if you seperate, you do so on peaceful terms. Other than that, I need mroe details to help. -------------------- And though the musicians would die, the music would live on in the imaginations of all who heard it. -The Last Pendragon TEH CONSPIRACY IZ ALL Les forum de la chance. In case of emergency, break glass. Posts: 3351 | Registered: Saturday, April 6 2002 08:00 |