What do you think I should do?

AuthorTopic: What do you think I should do?
Guardian
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It has come to my attention that my source of income has become much smaller than the amount of work I do. The main reason for this is the simple fact that my business partner has been ripping me off and keeping most of the money for himself, despite the fact that I end up doing most of the work.

I could simply quit, but then I would have to get regular job and learn how to do really stupid junk. I could also simply go independant, but due to the fact that I can't drive and don't have a car even if I could drive it would be difficult at best.

Basically, I want to know what you think about my situation and what you think I should do.

[ Wednesday, May 21, 2003 20:28: Message edited by: Lone Flame ]
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Shock Trooper
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LF, didn't you say on Desp that you're 16 and broke? Where the hell did this come from?

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Agent
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It might help to know what he actually does.

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My response is for you to stick it in the sun, but that's my response for everything you say.

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Warrior
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A. WTF to you do?
B. If he's ripping you off he's not your friend.
C. normal jobs are, well, normal. Life is doing useless, retarded, idiotic, and otherwise pointless things, most which come for any type of work.
D. The economy is fried and cripled, everone is getting paid less then what they should, all but Washington D.C. (Bush, Senators, gov't officials, etc.)
E. to answer your question, YES.
F. Hawkgirl, being broke and having a job have nothing to do with each other. I have a job, and i'm still broke (waste to much money on mainly pointless things, girlfriend, bad betts, and going to see movies). One of my friends has no job, to speak of, but he always has money :confused: .
G. Finaly, LF, if things get realy bad, kill your partner, steal all the money and join Alorael in sniping people.
H. ... :cool: ...

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quote:
Originally posted by FireDrakeofIce and Necromancy:
I have a job, and i'm still broke (waste to much money on mainly pointless things, girlfriend, bad betts, and going to see movies).
Y'know, I liked you a lot more when I thought you were 12 years old.

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Broke?
Put more ice in your lemonade.

I'm with you Thuryl. When I thought he was 11 I could excuse his comically pointless posts. Still, now he's fair game.

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So...we can...break him? REALLY?! *Jumps around happily* I feel like a kiddy button-smashing console player again!

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Warrior
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Gentlemen, start your engines...

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Shaper
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Maybe he delivers newspapers. In which case he could still be quite young, be losing money on little bets with his friend i.e. 'I bet you a dollar he can't...', and have a childhood girlfriend.

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Guardian
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that is very possible.

Sidenote: I never said my business partner was my friend. Actually the term business partner implies that they aren't your friend.

As for my occupation, I'm a lawn care specialist. Translation: I cut people's yards.

My partner gives me rides to the far off spots and helps me out. In turn I supply the mowers and gas.
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quote:
I have a job, and i'm still broke (waste to much money on mainly pointless things, girlfriend, bad betts, and going to see movies)
I also have a job and am still broke. I spend too much of my income on things like rent, groceries, electricity, transport costs, etc.

quote:
Actually the term business partner implies that they aren't your friend.

Not necessarily. I wouldn't go into business with someone who wasn't my friend, or at least someone I got on well with and thought I could trust.

Have you tried talking to your partner, asking him to explain the discrepancy in income? Have you tried renegotiating with him how the profits are split? Best not to do it when you're feeling angry, as anger can be counter productive - he may decide he doesn't need you, and it sounds like you need him to transport you and the mower to some of your customers.

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Posts: 512 | Registered: Wednesday, February 12 2003 08:00
Warrior
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My partner gives me rides to the far off spots and helps me out. In turn I supply the mowers and gas.
Just curious here...who collects the money from the customer, you or your partner? Are you present to get/see how much was given? If not this may be something to start doing so you have a better idea what money is changing hands.

Have you tried, as Kyna suggested, to speak with your partner (keep it businesslike and professional) about how much comes in/goes out (he needs gas, the mowers need gas/maintenance) and verify what is being paid to each of you? It never hurts to "go over the books" with each other.

Reading what you've said so far leads me to believe that: 1) Your partner collects the money, not you 2) Your partner decides how much to give you and 3) Not sure if you know how much is going to where. If I am wrong, I apologize, I am only going on the little information that's been posted. If these are close to true, definitely it is time to talk with your partner and decide on who gets what and when.

John
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Guardian
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The thing is I've just got talking to my partner, and it didn't work.

But ya know what, I shouldn't have started a business with a family member anyway.
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Warrior
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Have you thought about getting a new partner? Now that you have learned some of the potential problems, you can make a good deal right up front. Something like: we take out gas money etc and split the rest 50/50 might work.

It couldn't hurt!

John
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If you're dealing with a family member, then you may be able to extract money by pestering adults about it. If that bothers you, you can always try blackmail. If that doesn't work either, then it's time to look for a new business partner anyway.

I'd wait a little while before giving up on a relative, though. Family disputes can be quite ugly, but they're also often easier to resolve than conflicts with relative strangers. If talking once didn't work, talk again later. Maybe you weren't angry, but your partner might have been.

—Alorael, who is unwilling to share his sniping with LF. For one thing, the profits aren't good enough that he wants to split them. For another thing, he'd be likely to snipe first and give job interviews later.

[ Thursday, May 22, 2003 16:44: Message edited by: Alorael ]
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I find it odd that you mention Zephyr, as he hasn't posted in this thread, but would be glad if you would generously donate some sniping to his charity.
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Law Bringer
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I have been having name problems recently, Feran.

—Alorael, who did that last one intentionally. He knows that it was Scorp who posted, not Feran.
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Guardian
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Well, blackmail's out of the question. I'm refering to dealing with a family member who is smarter and slicker than I am.

Talking later might do the trick, if not I'm just gonna have ta work a smaller, more local area.
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Shaper
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Hey, it sounds like he does the same sot of work as in 'Lawn Dogs'. You could develop an untaxed sideline as a gigolo with cutomers you meet through your regular work. Can't be bad, eh?
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Oh God... this remiinds me of my own family... my father and his brother owned a local Ben and Jerry's (ice cream, for any poor fool who doesn't already know). My dad had more control over the whole thing, and he eventually decided to sell the business, just not the building. My uncle was very angry about this, and to make a long story short, the only real uncle I have is on my mother's side. My father's brother hates my father, and couldn't care less about his sister in law or his niece and nephew. This has caused my grandfather and aunt an unbelievable amount of stress, and I could swear that my uncle is crazy sometimes, he gets so mad. The moral of this story is, DON'T JUST PULL OUT WITHOUT MUTUAL AGREEMENT. I don't know exactly who in your family this person is, but I can tell you that you don't want him to be like my uncle, and you yourself don't want to be like my uncle either.

As for suggestions: talk it over, don't make any decisions quickly no matter how sensible they may seem, and make sure that if you seperate, you do so on peaceful terms. Other than that, I need mroe details to help.

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