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Which game is the best in your opinion? Avernum 5 sounds the best so far but isn't even out for Windows, and I haven't even played the later GF and Avernum installments.
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Avernum 5, hands down. Otherwise I hold a special place in my heart for Avernum 1 just because it's the first Spiderweb Game I owned and played all the way through.

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I'd recommend trying Exile 2 or 3 and Nethergate: Resurrection. They're all favorites of long-time fans and are quite different from what the latest games are like. Also, since all Spiderweb games are free to try out, it isn't very hard to find out which game you like best.

As for A5, you won't have to wait very long for it to come out anyway.
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BoE is free. That's definitely the most for your money, although if you're used to later Avernums and Geneforge the engine will feel old. On the other hand, if you do like the engine the whole Exile trilogy is cheap too!

Nethergate is a gem. That goes for both the original and Nethergate: Resurrection, but it's only worth getting one of the two. I'd say either one is fine unless your computer can't handle the older one.

A5 and A2 are considered the best Avernums, but it's definitely worth playing through at least a little bit of the intervening games to get a sense of how things go.

I'm not an expert on Geneforge, but G4 is considered the best of the bunch. The plot doesn't require more knowledge, but it seems like there's more complicated continuity than in the Avernum series.

—Alorael, whose final recommendation is, of course, to try demos and see what you like. For engines, you just need to pick any Geneforge, any of the first three Avernums, any later Avernum, and an Exile (although those have much bigger improvements from game to game).
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Geneforge 4 is technically and structurally the best of the Geneforge series, but the Geneforge story is really one long epic. You don't need to know previous games to play each one, but they do follow directly. So if you get into the story there's a lot of motivation to play them all in sequence. Or if you start later, you can go back to see the backstory firsthand, learn some details that haven't yet come directly into the later story but that do affect your understanding of it, and find out about some roads not taken. (Like the seemingly moderate and enlightened group called the Awakened, who died out when the war heated up. Or did they really? Maybe we'll learn differently in G5.)

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The later games in the series are more polished, but if you like the earlier ones, you'll have more fun playing them in order. So, I'd recommend starting with demos of Avernum 1 and Geneforge 1. If you don't like the engine, or level of polish, try Avernum 2 and Geneforge 2. If even that doesn't satisfy you, try the last installment in each series.

All the demos are free and large enough to give a good feel for the game, so it's best to try them all before deciding where to start.

PS Nethergate and BoE/BoA are also very fun. Nethergate is smaller, but allows you to play through the same storyline from two different sides (making references to the other party's actions). BoE has a huge number of scenarios and is now free. And BoA has fewer scenarios, but newer engine.

PS If you are feeling nostalgic about games from early 90s, you could even try the original Exile games.

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I have a likening to Blades of Avernum. However, my interest in the game is largely sparked by the possibilities with the editor.

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Ah yes, the famous post. I feel ashamed for not predicting its occurrence.

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Buy G1, G2 Avernum4 and G4, in that order, don't ask why.

Has Tyran EVER actually say Nethergate, or does he just post the image?

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I'd start with Avernum 1, personally (and not just because that's what I did start with).

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quote:
Has Tyran EVER actually say Nethergate, or does he just post the image?
Yes

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Originally by Tyranicus, as usual:
[N:R splash screen]
*raises mug of Nethergate ale* Slainte!

[ Wednesday, February 13, 2008 19:58: Message edited by: Taliesin ]

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Originally written by Xel'Raga:

Buy G1, G2 Avernum4 and G4, in that order, don't ask why.

Has Tyran EVER actually say Nethergate, or does he just post the image?

You've been here 6 months, and you've never heard me say anything about Nethergate? This I find hard to believe. :P

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I have been playing blades of Avernum and i freaking love it. I could play it all day long, but i am stuck.
So i think i am buy the full version.

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It all depends. In my opinion though, the best demo is Avernum 2. It is the emotionally charged "defend your homeland" story with a good deal of plot twists and quests to keep your hunger satiated until you finally choose to buy it. That and of course its original version, Exile 2.

Nethergate is also great, and you don't have to worry about catching up on the plot from other game series.

Blades of Avernum is rather useless as a demo, but the full version is of course, unlimited hours of fun.

I'm not a big fan of the geneforge engine, so I won't endorse or unendorse the games that use that engine, you'll have to see if you like them yourself.
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I suggest BoA. It is the best. You can make scenarios!

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quote:
Originally written by Hugo De Payenz:

I have been playing blades of Avernum and i freaking love it. I could play it all day long, but i am stuck.
So i think i am buy the full version.

Do it. There are about 50 other scenarios for you to play, when you do.

[ Sunday, February 17, 2008 10:06: Message edited by: The Sisters Cassidy. ]

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Only half of them are worth wile, I think. Some of them are just plain boring, or egregiously buggy.
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Scenarios more than worthy of being played, in my opinion:

Aphobia
Avatar
Backwater Calls
Bahssikava
Bonus Army
Canopy: Manufactured Womb
Cave of No Return
Darkness
Death at Chapman's
Dilecia
Diplomacy With the Dead
Druids of Krell
Echoes: Renegade
Embers of Rebellion
Emerald Mountain
Exodus
Express Delivery
Imagine This Scenario
Kill Them Dead
Lord Putidus
Mad Ambition
Magus of Cattalon
Outpost Valley
A Perfect Forest
Rats Aplenty
Shades of Gray
A Small Rebellion
Twilight Valley
A Visit to the Madhouse
Where the Rivers Meet
Witch Hunt
The Za-Khazi Run

There are also other ones that could be on the list but which aren't essential playing. And I undoubtedly missed a few.

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