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Koth, but with the K lightly aspirated.

Some people call me it in real life, so it's not purely academic.

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I honestly don't know. :P

I've pronounced it "Bane IHR no" (ihr sounding like the German word.)

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Originally written by Arancan'tremembertherest:

Short form: AIR - an.
Aran, do you have the Mary-marry-merry merger? :eek:
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Originally written by BainIhrno:

I've pronounced it "Bane IHR no" (ihr sounding like the German word.)
With the German "r" or the English one?

[ Saturday, November 25, 2006 07:37: Message edited by: wz. As ]

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Like the name Landon, but with a Ke on the front: ke-LAN-don. The L is shared across both syllables, so I vacillate on where it goes.

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Originally written by wz. As:

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Originally written by Arancan'tremembertherest:

Short form: AIR - an.
Aran, do you have the Mary-marry-merry merger? :eek:
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Originally written by BainIhrno:

I've pronounced it "Bane IHR no" (ihr sounding like the German word.)
With the German "r" or the English one?

Not sure what you mean.

And I rather think that "ear" or "ere" would have done the job without resorting to German - unless of course it *is* about the r.

Which would raise questions about the pronunciation of Novah.

Hm. pronunciation. to pronounce.

My spelling checker tells me there are only two o's in the former, as in the thread title, even though it looks awfully wrong to me somehow.

Meh. I'll trust the spelling checker.

[ Saturday, November 25, 2006 13:54: Message edited by: krautnuts ]

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If I'm not mistaken, the Mary-marry-merry merger is a General American pronunciation, but Aran IIRC pronounces closer to an RP standard, where the merger has not, I think, taken place.

Every single one of those clauses is qualified, because I'm completely unsure of each of them, but if I had to guess, that's what I'd say. :P

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Kel, is it kel-LAN-don or -den or -dun?

Oh yeah, and gair-is-un I think makes sense.

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How do you say the name Landon, as in Landon Donovan? If you say LAN-dun, then it's -dun. If you say LAN-don, then it's -don.

I say this because I think it varies with dialect slightly.

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I was surprised that you interpret the spelling of "Aran" as "AIR - an." Is that like the English word "air"? I expected your pronunciation of the first syllable to be more like the first syllable of "marry." Most people in the United States pronounces "air" like the sound in "marry," but most other English speakers don't.

If you don't say "air" like "marry," then you don't have the Mary-marry-merry merger, and I can stop being surprised about that and instead be surprised about the interpretation of the spelling of Aran.

How would you say the name Aaron?

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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

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Originally written by Athoraal:

Say it however you like. It doesn't come up in non-written conversation much. Please recognize that the A comes before the E, so you can pronounce it as a long A (I can't think of any examples)
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Originally written by VCH:

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Originally written by Thuryl:

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Originally written by Athoraal:

Say it however you like. It doesn't come up in non-written conversation much. Please recognize that the A comes before the E, so you can pronounce it as a long A (I can't think of any examples)
Tenebrae?

Chelicerae
Pedicellariae
Papulae
Larvae
Ampullae

All of those end with a long E, not an A. I'm not sure about tenebrae, but I'd be surprised if it were any different since it's also straight from Latin.

—Alorael, who wouldn't be terribly surprised. In a battle between Thuryl and Latin it's a fairly even match.
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The terrible thing is that American English has by and large shortened the remnants of ae and oe diphthongs (see "Oedipus" or "anapaest").

[ Sunday, November 26, 2006 11:55: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Originally written by wz. As:

I was surprised that you interpret the spelling of "Aran" as "AIR - an." Is that like the English word "air"? I expected your pronunciation of the first syllable to be more like the first syllable of "marry." Most people in the United States pronounces "air" like the sound in "marry," but most other English speakers don't.

If you don't say "air" like "marry," then you don't have the Mary-marry-merry merger, and I can stop being surprised about that and instead be surprised about the interpretation of the spelling of Aran.

Okay, you got me. It wouldn't really be "air" (and I don't say that as in "marry"). Somehow I got stuck on that while trying to put it in phonetic writing.

Think rather of "arrow", only with an "an" in the end.

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Turns out I've been pronouncing everyone's name wrong. I shall doubtless continue to do so.

In my moniker, the "." is silent.

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Originally by Micawber:

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In my moniker, the "." is silent.
Well, shoot. Dikiyoba's been pronouncing your name wrong for ages.
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Originally written by Desperate Measures of Culture:

All of those end with a long E, not an A.
I think this must be one of those American/Commonwealth English distinctions, because everyone I know has always pronounced "larvae" with a long A at the end.

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As far as I know, Americans normally pronounce remnant Latin ae and oe diphthongs as short E's except where they're actually spelled "ae," which is normally only at the end of a word, where they're pronounced as long A's — although I have heard some Americans doing a long E in word-final ae diphthongs, and I can only assume it's by influence from the English. Brits normally pronounce all ae and oe remnants as long E's (which is technically more correct, but sounds AWFUL).

I've always wondered how the American pronunciation came about, and I have to admit that I haven't the faintest idea.

[ Sunday, November 26, 2006 15:53: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Originally written by Micawber.:



In my moniker, the "." is silent.

I thought it was something from one of those African clicking languages. You learn something new every day.

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Wow. You do learn something new every day. I always thought Andraste was pronounced AN-drahst.

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I assumed that it was pronounced as if it were Spanish. I'm not sure if I'm wrong.

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According to the dictionary on my computer, the General American pronunciation of "larvae" can either end in a long E or a long I. No long A, apparently. Received Pronunciation (English English) lists just a long E.

No mention of how Australian English does it.

Also, for the record, re: the mary-marry-merry merger, I meant that "marry" is pronounced like the sound in "air," not that "air" is said like the sound in "marry."

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What does your dictionary give for the pronunciation, of, say, "anapest"?

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The pronunciation for Andraste confuses me. I thought it was on-draw-stay, which as Kelandon said, is the Spanish version.

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