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Continuing with my experimentation of weird software now I want to know what browser you think is the best, I know Internet Explorer, and heard from Firefox and netscape so what do you think? What are their advantages?
Remember that they must work in Win2000 (yes I installed it YAY!!)
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As far as I know, the current version of every browser for Windows works on Win2k. I would strongly advise against using Internet Explorer. It has so many security holes, you might as well be hanging up a sign inviting hackers into your computer. It's so bad that PCWorld voted it the 8th worst tech product of all time.

As for Netscape, it's really just a port of the old Mozilla browser. It's alright, I guess, but there's nothing in Netscape that isn't the same or better in Firefox

Firefox is, in my opinion, the best web browser out there. It has lots of great features, like tabbed browsing and a very efficient popup blocker. The best thing about Firefox is undeniably the developement community. Because, Firefox is a free, open-source project, many programmers have written helpful addons (known as extensions) for the browser, which enhance its functionality tenfold. If you can think of it, there is probably an extension for it. Things like music player controls built into the browser that can control just about any media player, local weather forecast in your status bar, good adblocking, showing Yahoo search matches with the Google results, etc. make browsing so much easier with Firefox.

[ Wednesday, July 26, 2006 20:43: Message edited by: Tyranicus ]

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Another option that I've heard recommended is Opera. Since I'm one of those Mac users, I haven't tried it out. It has a lot of the same features as Firefox.

Don't use Internet Explorer unless you are going to a safe site. Microsoft has the worst security and they had to hire outsiders to protect their own servers.
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More recent versions of Internet Explorer are about 100 times better than old ones. Seriously, while a lot of the old complaints about spyware and viruses infecting IE users are spot-on, Microsoft has been getting a lot better about that recently.
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I use Seamonkey. It's a branch of the Mozilla project; while Firefox is just the web browser, the Seamonkey project continues to maintain the entire Mozilla suite, including a mail client (it's not Thunderbird, but it's convenient and does everything you're likely to need it to do), Composer (a very nice HTML editor, which produces cleaner HTML than anything else short of hand-coding it in Notepad), and an IRC client. If you don't need any of those things, you may find it a bit bloated, but it suits me just fine.

[ Wednesday, July 26, 2006 23:42: Message edited by: Thuryl ]

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quote:
Originally written by Tyran:


As for Netscape, it's really just a port of the old Mozilla browser. It's alright, I guess, but there's nothing in Netscape that isn't the same or better in Firefox.

Didn't Mozilla grow from Netscape, rather than vice versa?

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I use Firefox and Thunderbird. I do have Mozilla installed, and technically it's as close to Firefox as, say, Debian and Red Hat (if that analogy works), but I can't get used to it.

However, Opera 9 is at least as good as Firefox - handles Java and PDF more quickly too (though that might just be due to my Firefox being loaded with performance-gobbling extensions). I use it a bit less often than Firefox, but whenever the former has problems displaying a page.

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Just checked Wikipedia: Netscape was by Mosaic Communications, which was effectively killed by Microsoft (and IE), ending in 1998 with the source of Netscape 4.0 being opened and reworked as Mozilla.

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I just download FireFox yesterday, and I can say that is very advanced. The customization option is very useful, and even without add-ons is better than Explorer, in my opinion.

Safari: Is good for Mac user (good speed, fast downloading...) but I never liked it.

One curious thing... With IE I tried to download FF many time but it never worked, then I tried with Safari and all was Ok... :eek:

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Thanks, so I will just go on and download firefox then.
-I'll see if I can download it, yesterday I was looking in the pages and all the links were broken...so the last version is 1.5...
-Ahhhh!!!all of the stupid pages link me to the "download the google bar" page!!!!
(I'm a google fan, I already have it!!)
Why???
-Oh wait i'm downloading something, maybe the google bar have firefox included(60%)
-(100%)something is extracting...it might be??
-YES!!!firefox installation YAY!!hope it works...

Good, it worked, now if I set it as the default browser, what troubles it can cause?
Damn, this is so weird but I think I will eventually get used to firefox...

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Setting Firefox as your default browser won't cause any problems. All that means is that whenever you click a link in an external application, (e.g. IM client, word processor, etc.), it will open in Firefox instead of IE, which is most likely what you want.

Edit: Aran, if you wnat to be technical about it, you could say that Mozilla came out of Netscape, but in actuality, the current version of Netscape is a rework of an older version of Mozilla.

[ Thursday, July 27, 2006 08:47: Message edited by: Tyranicus ]

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I'm considering switching to Firefox, but then I lose my Dictionary.com and CNET toolbars, which are convenient, if not strictly necessary. I suppose I can deal with that though. Is there a free Firefox-integrated toolbar available that lets me look up terms in a dictionary or thesaurus? That would make things easier.

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Comes with it, I think. The "google search" box in the upper right corner of firefox houses a pulldown menu which will also search dictionary.com, I believe.
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It doesn't come with a dictionary search, but you can install a myriad of engines into the search bar, including several different dictionaries.

[ Thursday, July 27, 2006 09:34: Message edited by: Tyranicus ]

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Originally by Tyranicus:

quote:
It's so bad that PCWorld voted it the 8th worst tech product of all time.
Sadly, Dikiyoba had to spend three years living with number one so IE still seems like a good deal.
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quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Dikiyoba had to spend three years living with number one so IE still seems like a good deal.
You have my most sincere condolences. Back when I was still living at my parents' house, I had to live with it as well. I would just sign on with AOL and minimize it immediately in favor of Mozilla.

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quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Sadly, Dikiyoba had to spend three years living with number one so IE still seems like a good deal.
I still bear the pain that is an AOL account... just for email, though (thankfully). I ought to switch to something else, but I'm too lazy.

EDIT: Safari rules.

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I used to use lynx or W3. Later mozilla, and konqueror. In better days.

Nowadays IE7. Sad but true.

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Out of curiosity, I downloaded the IE7 beta. After installing it, I had to reboot my computer. Bad idea. Windows wouldn't boot. I had to revert to the "last known god configuration" before it would even boot. :P

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I like how PCWorld criticises products for showing ads, then does the same thing.

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I guess Firefox is worth getting, but I use MSN Explorer, and it satisfies my needs quite nicely. I think it's basically IE with a new interface, but I'm counting on it to be more secure, and so far it's done okay.

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Another question: Is Firefox actually more secure than the latest version of IE, or is it just a less popular target with hackers?

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quote:
Originally written by Sturg:

I guess Firefox is worth getting, but I use MSN Explorer, and it satisfies my needs quite nicely. I think it's basically IE with a new interface, but I'm counting on it to be more secure, and so far it's done okay.
Changing UI doesn't affect most security holes. So MSN-branded IE has just as many problems as the regular one. Actually, it might have more problems than the regular one if it takes Microsoft longer to put out the patches for the MSN version.

quote:
Originally written by The Almighty Do-er of Stuff:

Another question: Is Firefox actually more secure than the latest version of IE, or is it just a less popular target with hackers?
I suspect it's a bit of both. It's not as deeply integrated with the OS, so there is less potential for problems, but lower number of users is probably another major factor.

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Off topic(after reading the list): so Real player is bad??
Good, I never liked it...
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It's only a little bit bad for being spyware. It's mostly bad for being a grotesque piece of software that I detest intensely. Unfortunately, MPlayerOSX and VLC refuse to play the few Real-only files I have, so I still have RealPlayer sitting on my computer. Yuck.

—Alorael, who uses Safari most of the time and Firefox occasionally. He has briefly considered giving Shiira a try but can't work up the enthusiasm. His browsers of choice do everything he needs.
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The newer versions of RealPlayer have an option to tell it not to spy on you. I don't use it at all though. I downloaded the Real Alternative codec, which allows me to watch real videos and listen to real audio in whatever player I want.

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