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Shaper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 10:01
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Alec, I don't see you taking that attitude with TM, who is openly pedophilic. Why is that? Anyway, didn't we determine last time he was here that he was a troll? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else, but I'm pretty sure it was him. [ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:05: Message edited by: The Almighty Do-er of Stuff ] -------------------- My Myspace, with some of my audial and visual art The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 11:00
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If you mean the guy who posted two of these stories a year ago, then yes, that's him. Also, I hope you realize TM is not actually a pedophile. Whether Fox is actually a furry is anyone's guess, but two identical trolling attempts a year apart would be unoriginal. -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 11:19
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quote:True. I did not find anything abnormal under Fox's short list of posts in General, however, when compared to the ex-president as depicted here:  Even that you would not call abnormal, would you? However, the real question is whether this forum takes some responsibility vs. its younger members who have been invited repeatedly into blind private email contact with someone who tests the limits of the CoC. You can discuss where to impose the limitation, however, following the "policing ourselves" thread I think nobody doubts that there should be some. BTW, I wonder what is so attractive for someone who is sufficiently adult to talk about the details of his romantic preferences to come here every year and ask basically the same question rather than join the Despers. They are so pro-free speech. Is it because there are younger members to harvest here? Any idea? [ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:56: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ] -------------------- The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference. Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine) Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 11:20
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Imban, what happened to your post? :P I don't think he's a troll, as his statements sound too sentimental. He should note, however, that the prominent SW members are the same people as a year ago, give or take a couple, so he likely already knows our various opinions. Edit: I'm sorry but a dog sniffing the president's package hardly compares to a romance novel. [ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:28: Message edited by: Dolphin. ] Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 12:03
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quote:You know, some people consider hebephilia to be distinct from pedophilia. :P Some people apply the "consenting adults" rule to zoophilia as well, claiming that animals can't give meaningful consent, hence it is immoral to have sex with them. However, animals don't have the same legal rights as humans have; animals are used in medical experiments and slaughtered without their consent, too EDIT: Come to think of it, the thing that I find scariest about pedophiles and zoophiles alike isn't their peculiar fetishes, but the fact that they have little or no interest in emotional or physical intimacy with adult humans. [ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:11: Message edited by: Alex ] Posts: 950 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 12:18
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quote:So you refer more to the post archived by Aran. That story is fantasy, is it not? It does have an erotic undertone. Is that really the problem? I find it much more harmless than the discussion about variations on the death penalty. To put it in pictures: Is the petting of the cat the unnormal behavior?  Is this kid perversely abusing the cat?  quote:I agree with the exception of "scary". Some people get deeply hurt emotionally in relations to humans and may seek refuge in an emotional relationship that they fantasize about and that they clearly control. The posting on this forum is the puzzling behavior not the "zoophilia", imho. BTW, irrespective of all feelingss, pedophilia is criminal abuse and not really suitable for humour. [ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:40: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ] -------------------- The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference. Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine) Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 12:19
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quote:Not necessarily. There are bisexual people after all. Who's to say a person can't have multiple fetishes? -------------------- My Myspace, with some of my audial and visual art The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 12:27
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quote:I fail to see an erotic undertone in a soldier or toddler petting a cat. You did not fail to recognize the erotic undertone of the furry fiction. -------------------- Encyclopaedia Ermariana • Forum Archives • Forum Statistics • RSS [Topic / Forum] My Blog • Polaris • I eat novels for breakfast. Polaris is dead, long live Polaris. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair. Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 12:28
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ADoS: I think he established that he has feelings exclusively for animals. [ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:28: Message edited by: Wild Kinky Slugs ] -------------------- "As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it." --Albert Einstein -------------------- Posts: 536 | Registered: Sunday, September 7 2003 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 12:29
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It was deleted due to being nothing but my foot in my mouth. :( Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 12:32
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quote:I know Mister Fox did, but Alex made a blanket statement covering all zoophiles and pedophiles, which I don't think is right. -------------------- My Myspace, with some of my audial and visual art The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 12:45
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quote:Could be due to our different cultural background not to say attitude towards erotica. [ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:49: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ] -------------------- The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference. Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine) Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 12:48
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Where are you from, YAP? Not sure I know of a place where petting an animal is seen as erotic. Some people (myself included) even kiss their pets. It's no more an expression of lust than kissing your wrinkly old Aunt Gertrude. EDIT: No, I don't kiss my cats in the same way I would kiss a woman, obviously, so don't start. :rolleyes: EDIT 2: (moved to new post since Alex posted while I made the edit) [ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:58: Message edited by: The Almighty Do-er of Stuff ] -------------------- My Myspace, with some of my audial and visual art The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 12:55
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quote:I'll remove that inaccuracy by stating that I meant True Pedophiles and True Zoophiles, for whom my previous statement is true by definition. :P Posts: 950 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 13:00
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Personally, I have no problem with people fantasizing about fiddling about with little children, as long as it doesn't go any further than fantasizing (although I'd prefer they not tell me about their fantasies). I feel rather strongly that if it hurts absolutely nobody in any way (like masturbating when by oneself in one's private home), then it isn't wrong. This goes for homosexuality, masturbation (although one could injure oneself during vigorous masturbation, but that's not quite what I meant), and yes, pedophilia. (Note that viewing child porn is still harmful to the child, in that in order for it to even exist, a child must have been abused, and therefore getting off to child porn is benefitting from the undue suffering of others. Lolicon hentai isn't wrong though.) EDIT: Note that I'm not saying it isn't wierd, just that it isn't wrong. [ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 13:02: Message edited by: The Almighty Do-er of Stuff ] -------------------- My Myspace, with some of my audial and visual art The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 13:24
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quote:YAP (do you prefer to be called something else?), Aran summed it up very nicely. The pictures you keep posting are not sexual towards the animals. Note that I really don't care how anyone chooses their romances, but I find it interesting you see no difference between the story Fox wrote and the pictures you posted. Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 13:31
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Well, I could see how one could twist the Clinton picture into one where the dog is fellating the former President, but the other pictures are perfectly innocent. -------------------- My Myspace, with some of my audial and visual art The Lyceum - The Headquarters of the Blades designing community The Louvre - The Blades of Avernum graphics database Alexandria - The Blades of Exile Scenario database BoE Webring - Self explanatory Polaris - Free porn here Odd Todd - Fun for the unemployed (and everyone else too) They Might Be Giants - Four websites for one of the greatest bands in existance -------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Posts: 2957 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 16:27
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Wow :eek: I didn't expect so many posts so soon. 1. I am curious about people's positions on this sort of thing, I just like to hear what people have to say and I'm not sure why. 2. According to several psychiatrists and therapists, I'm normal. My parents tried to have me "cured" but now they just pretend I'm normal. 3. I will clarify that I have interest in humans as friends only, but I do have a lot of human friends. I did have a hurtful relationship with a human, but I was a zoophile long before that. I've always liked animals, it just expanded when I went through puberty. 4. I did post a story or two a while back, but I didn't think anyone would remember :P I think I only used this forum for a day or two before neglecting it for reasons I can no longer remember. I returned recently to find my account still around. 5. About YaP's pics, whether the humans meant to or not (I'm sure they didn't) they actually were stimulating the cats. Cats have very sensative skin compared to most other animals and petting them can do things to them. I won't get into a lot of detail here. 6. I read my old post from that link, hard to believe my posts were that short and pointless when I was 15 haha. Thought I suppose the pointlessness hasn't really left... [ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 16:38: Message edited by: Mister Fox ] -------------------- I'm drunk as think as you not am I. Posts: 64 | Registered: Sunday, April 3 2005 08:00 |
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Master
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 17:07
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quote:Yes, yes, I'm sure you are. It's perfectly okay to love your pets, but it's not okay, in my opinion, to have any sort of relationship with them. First, there's no point. Second, they probably think nothing of you. Third, nobody is going to respect you for it. Frankly, it amazes me when people claim to have an attraction to other things than opposite gender of similar species. People say it's there when you're born, but I think most cases are strictly in your mind. For example, if you're constantly compelled to think of yourself as a homosexual, then you concentrate much more on your illusioned attraction to the same sex and disregard that for others. Also, though this reason may not mean all that much to some of you, any form of sexual relation outside of marriage with anyone non-human or same sex is strictly outlawed and condemned by the Bible. And pretty much immoral to moral people. Of course, I do not mean at all to alienate you, Mister Fox. I understand that you are entitled to your own view, should you choose to follow them. -------------------- -ben4808 Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 17:13
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quote:*shrug* I'm an atheist, so the restrictions of the bible really don't apply to me. If I were a Christian, I'd probably kill myself because ever since the people around me in real life found out I was a zoo I've heard from many different people that god hates me. -------------------- I'm drunk as think as you not am I. Posts: 64 | Registered: Sunday, April 3 2005 08:00 |
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Master
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 17:15
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Well, God does not hate you whatever you do. He's always willing to forgive. -------------------- -ben4808 Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 18:05
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quote:Or condemn you to eternal damnation. Ya know, whatever. -------------------- DEMON PLAY, DEMON OUT! Posts: 1582 | Registered: Wednesday, November 13 2002 08:00 |
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The Establishment
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 18:43
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quote:Depends on which version of God you tend to believe in. The Old Testament God tended to be quite vindictive. Even certain Christian sects believe that there are certain things beyond forgiveness. -------------------- Your flower power is no match for my glower power! Posts: 3726 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 18:44
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You know, I was playing devil's advocate. I'm not even a zoophile. At least as far as I can tell. I personally don't care. But all the same, I hope you all got my point. -------------------- The great light bulb converses its thoughts in a fashion most particular to its complicated nature. Neither twenty-one nor forsaken any longer, I now stand in freedom through Jesus Christ. Posts: 215 | Registered: Friday, August 30 2002 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Tuesday, April 25 2006 18:47
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quote:Quoted for extreme disbelief. Provide a citation or even some kind of reasonable justification, please. The name of a source, even. —Alorael, who can't recognize the vindictive OT God with the lack of eternal hellfire. The only reasonable conclusion is that God just learned to hide his malice in the NT. Or maybe the Bible just makes no sense. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |