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Didn't we do this before?
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Yeah, a few years ago.

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Imban is The Indian Wars, a loosely-defined period of brutal genocide on which the westward expansion of the United States depended, generally considered to range from the early conflicts of the 19th century to the Wounded Knee Massacre in 1890.

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stranger is The Mexican-American War, a conflict deliberately provoked by American hawks in 1846; at war's end, the United States annexed a third of its current territory - and half of Mexico's. Almost half of Americans now live in areas ceded by Mexico under duress.

The war was most vigorously pursued, of course, by Southern planters, who planned to use the land thereby acquired for slavery (and who were incensed by Mexico's decision to outlaw it within its borders).
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FBM is The Quasi War, a conflict pursued by John Adams against the only other republic on Earth over the matter of a bribe. Despite the name, the Quasi War was bloodier by proportionate numbers than the first Iraq war. Inexplicably, John Adams's son was elected President - but, thankfully, found no pretense to continue his father's fight.

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Um, what's going on? What's this all about?
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Let's just hope no neo-cons have a reaction to it!!!

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Stew Boy is The Spanish-American War, wherein the United States viciously assaulted a moribund empire so as to steal its few remaining island possessions. The United States gained Cuba, Puerto Rico, and (technically - although that's a story for another day) the Phillippines; as a consequence, the US's prestige on the world stage rose tremendously, and this war is generally recognized as the first signs of the then-nascent superpower we all know and love.
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TM is naturally The Pacific Theater of the Second World War, wherein the United States was drawn haplessly into war with - and eventually dismantled - one of the most vicious and bloody-minded empires the world has ever known. While the US certainly engaged in its share of questionable behavior before, during, and after this conflict (e.g. embargos and tarriffs that aggravated Japanese expansion; various firebombings; the atomic bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima; unneccessary and demoralizing rationing in the post-war years), the Pacific War is perhaps the least morally ambiguous conflict in American history.

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Ephesos is Guatemala, wherein, with US backing - itself obtained due to lobbying of United Fruit Company of Boston - a jumped-up platoon of reactionaries roving about the outskirts of the country managed to cause such a national panic as to lead to a coup and a bloody repression of then-ascendant leftist elements. The intelligence action in the country would become the prototype for CIA meddling throughout the Cold War, although the specific strategy pursued in Guatemala would soon meet with miserable failure in Cuba.
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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Tyranicus is Iran, where a US-backed monarch was overthrown by a fundamentalist revolution - that that monarch's brutal but ineffective police force, with US support, failed to put a stop to.
The lessons learned there were applied by the US and its clients in repressing other revolutionary action, Islamic or otherwise, throughout the world.
And God willing, that's the end of the story on Iran - but we've got two years left, so I'm not holding my breath on that one.
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Thuryl is Canada, the United States's pretty cousin. Besides the fictional conflicts portrayed by Harry Turtledove in his Timeline-181 works, and the more interesting John Candy vehicle Canadian Bacon, the US has not actually fought any war directly with Canada; however, Canada proved an understandably tempting, annexable morsel throughout the 19th century. Several instances of limited rebellion against British authority, along with a predilection for Southerner-angering acceptance of black refugees before the Civil War, very nearly lead to annexation of Canada by the United States.
The US states of Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Alaska exist mostly out of a stated fear of the British aggrandizement of Canada, and several asinine territorial disputes between the US and Canada persist to this day.

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Is there any connection at all between the people and their respective wars? This all seems extremely random to me, but Chaotic Neutral can be a fun alignment...

Sure, why not?

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Salmon is China. The US has historically had a great deal of interest in influence in China; various treaties of cooperation were signed in the 19th century, and throughout the same period the United States leeched a good portion of China's middle-class, to the benefit of its railroading and gold-mining industry, along with California in general (although you wouldn't have known it to hear them talk).
In the 20th century, the US pushed its Open Door Policy consistently - and unsuccessfully - as a response to the division of China into 'spheres of influence', which generally left it out. Participation in the international response to the Boxer Rebellion increased US influence in China.
The defeat of the Guomindang by Communist forces in 1949 sent the United States into a panic; many inexplicably blamed the US government for Mao's success in China, leading to a brief but memorable Red scare - which we remember, of course, because it affected beloved Hollywood.
China currently holds a stake in a large portion of the US's foreign debt, manufactures many of the non-durable goods sold in the United States, and is a consistent rival for the US on the world stage. With a billion people and an industrializing economy for which the sky seems to be the limit, the totalitarian People's Republic seems to be to the US what it was to Britain - bigger, faster, and stronger.
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Croikle is Venezuela. Where the Cuban revolution fizzled as a source of effective opposition to US policy, the 'Bolivarian revolution' of Venezuela has gained a lot of steam of late - proving the only serious thorn in the side of the Washington Consensus in the western hemisphere. Despite US efforts to remove him from power, democratically-elected and astoundingly popular caudillo Hugo Chavez retains power, and seems to be becoming a hero to the dispossessed of Latin America. The election of a similar president in Bolivia and the recent successes of Obregon in Mexico are generally taken alongside a sweeping trend of anti-Americanism in the Americas pursued through electoral means.

In terms of actual conflict, Venezuela has seen its share - a corporate coup (generally believed to be US-backed) around the turn of the century briefly ousted Chavez, but a wave of popular support returned him to office. Hard-right elements of the US government have vocally supported the forcible removal of Chavez's government (including, memorably, Pat Robertson). A time-traveller from 2008 reporting war with Venezuela would not be met with surprise by any well-informed American.

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Dolphin is Congo/Kinshasa, one of those countries any merciful God has clearly forgotten. Upon escaping from the repression of the Belgians, a native government was very briefly formed by Patrice Lumumba, who was believed to be too socialist and independent-minded for the US to properly manipulate. As the Congo held a large and strategically important area of territory, the CIA naturally sprung into action, orchestrating the murder of Lumumba and the rise to power of Mobutu Sese Seko, one of Africa's more memorable psychopaths.
In the more recent conflict - in the western parts of what was then Zaire - the United States memorably refused to involve itself, effectively crippling UN response and horrendously aggravating a murderous, three-way guerilla war - the second-bloodiest war in human history, and a major example of ethnic cleansing post-Holocaust.

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Jeff Vogel is honorably extended The Civil Rights Movement, a major moral crisis for 20th-century America. While the Civil Rights Movement generally achieved its original objectives with the Civil Rights Act - achieving effective ability to participate in national politics - it was only after decades of miserable and sometimes bloody struggle that this was attained. Furthermore, due to the strategic decision by segregationists to couch themselves in the rhetoric of civil liberties - states'-rights, local traditions, small government, and so on - the CRM has lead to an unfortunate lasting legacy that, for a large spectrum of local political thought, pigeonholes the American ideal of responsible government into inaction in the face of injustice.

The scars of the CRM are still apparent in American politics; the American right, standing as it does on the shoulders of segregationists and their children, has grown unfortunately comfortable with American racists - although this trend has, thankfully, waned somewhat during the Bush administration.

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Why not? I'm in.

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