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I would like to tell you about the new school I am attending. It is called, The LightHouse School. It is quit unbelievable, you'll never believe the stories I'll tell you about it. This is what they do. Most of this stuff is constitutional. And I'm pretty sure DC knows about it, but some I don't thing DC knows about. But in order to tell you about it I must tell you the entire story.

First. If a student gets out of line There is a actual Light House School Police force that patrols the corridors of this school. It is called APEX. If a student gets out of line,
such as telling a teacher to go **** himself. They will come in, possible restrain him if he is really uncontrolable, and than bring him to this blue padded down room with three blue padded down walls, and a masculant man or woman holding guard over the entrance. If you are controlable than they will just take you to a cubical and make you write a paper on why your there.

Second. There is a sheet that LHS makes you sign that says if you don't agree with the restraints than your student can't attend the campus. Now I think that DC knows That LHS is doing all of this. However I did see in the past, in the past meaning today. A staff member not Apex semi push a student. It was more of a restraint than a push, but it was still a semi push non the less. I don't know if DC gave them permission to semi push or not.

Third. I have been attending this school for three months now, and I decided that I needed to tell some one about this and go public. So I told my therapist about this, and I went public.

Fourth. I was wondering what the people on this board think I should do about this?

Fifth. I allso think that Apex has really pushed slaped and possibly beaten students in the past. But I've never seen that being done so I can't prove it.

Thank's for your attention.

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Hey Johnny, welcome back! :)

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Move schools. =/

Discipline is one thing, authoritarianism and suppression is another.

Yeah =/

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Attend public school. Yikes. Next thing you know there'll be a nuclear meltdown in the science lab. :P

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Whoa... that's unbelievable. And sickening. Switch schools as fast as humanly possible... nobody should have to attend a school like that.

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quote:
Originally written by Charles V:

First. If a student gets out of line There is a actual Light House School Police force that patrols the corridors of this school. It is called APEX. If a student gets out of line,
such as telling a teacher to go **** himself. They will come in, possible restrain him if he is really uncontrolable, and than bring him to this blue padded down room with three blue padded down walls, and a masculant man or woman holding guard over the entrance. If you are controlable than they will just take you to a cubical and make you write a paper on why your there.

What kind of person would attend this school in the first place? Not to sound insensitive, but it seems as though someone who would tell off a teacher and be uncontrollable needs discipline. Agreed, violence is crossing the line, but why not just behave oneself and avoid all the trouble?

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This sounds like a joke. Maybe the third troll in 2 days.
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Don't be so quick to call this person a troll. A Google search for "The LightHouse School" shows following site: http://www.lighthouseschool.org/default.htm

As for opinion and advice, I suggest complaining to your parents. Since they sent you to this school, they should also pull you out of it.

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Okay, so here's the deal: the parents agreed that the school can restrain and confine their students. The confinement borders on absurd, but the parents agreed to it and the school has a uniform standard for enforcing it. I expect the school is just on the right side of legality on that one.

However, if school personnel are beating students - slapping them around, physically accosting them, etc. - and I mean unambiguously beating them, as in we're not talking a fistfight between school staff and a student they're trying to restrain here, but just the staff getting physically abusive - then they're over the line if they're dealing with legal minors.

I'd look up your local Child Protective Services, and possibly call the Department of Education. The physical restraint is probably legal, but physically accosting students definitely isn't, and if parents sign waivers allowing it they're committing at least one or possibly several of neglect, battery, or child abuse, depending on local statutes (perhaps unwittingly, perhaps not). If anyone else knows any more relevant organizations, input would be appreciated; those are the ones that spring to my mind (besides the obvious call to a police department - but that should, ideally, happen as soon as possible after you witness a beating; otherwise the school can get a layer of plausible deniability on its side and, if it's corrupt, start deleting records, making future investigation much more difficult).

With the school having the kind of draconian restraint policies it does, though, I'd recommend to your parents or whoever's enrolling you there to find an alternative, and quick. No school which places that much of an emphasis on physical subdual and control can create an environment conducive to anyone learning anything except fear.

When military school would be an improvement in disciplinary, the school has definitely gone overboard.

To summarize: Look up and call the local offices of Child Protective Services, the national Department of Education, and your state's equivalent. If you witness an incident of excessive or unwarranted physical activity, waste no time in calling the police.

Hope that helps.

P.S.: Remember that if Lighthouse is a private school, their 'police force' are NOT ACTUAL POLICE. They are like security guards, with no connection with or certification from the actual police department. Public schools do have REAL police, but if the school is making parents sign waivers it isn't public. Don't be afraid to go to the local police on this one.

P.P.S.: I don't doubt what you say about slapping etc. - but don't call on thinking something's happened, even if it's obvious it has, or on hearing something's happened. Make sure you're a witness or you know a witness to the physical abuse. (If you know a witness, have them call it in instead.)

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That is compltely and utterly ridiculous. Leave. Fast.

Are the 'Police Force' adults or adolescents? I'm sure they are the former, because if they were adolescents most students would fight back. But thats just my opinion. I would leave.
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This school doesn't sound as bad as the one from the movie "Sleepers", but then again, this is real life. I agree with the majority of posters so far in saying that you should do something major, including leaving.

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Why did your parents put you in this school to begin with? Furthermore, why would this matter if you're behaving?

Sounds a lot like the Catholic schools some of my friends back home went to - all about discipline.
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From the site:

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APEX Bioeducational Technology is a comprehensive treatment philosophy that is designed to work for all kids by providing consistent application of tools which maximize growth and development.
I really don't like the sound the that.

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Folks, if you look through the Lighthouse School website mentioned above, it's pretty clear that one of this school's missions is to provide training for kids with severe developmental problems. From the fact that Charles V has been around here so long and written coherent posts, it's obvious that not all the LHS students are in that category. But think about it. Kids with serious intellectual handicaps or psychiatric conditions are still kids. They need education. They hit puberty and grow big and strong. They may need a specially adapted education.

None of which is to say that private goon squads can beat kids in padded rooms, no matter who the kids are. It could be that this place is out of hand, and if so the special problems of some of its students would only make that a worse crime. It's just that comparisons with military academies are missing the point here.

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I've actually read the entire about section, including that APEX thing. Apparently, they are doing everything that they said they would do. It's just that they're taking it a bit too far.

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Maybe I've missed a line or two, but this doesn't sound that sadistic. Realize: schools have laws of their own. At school, we (students) don't even have 90% of the basic rights we do in public areas. I'm pretty sure this applies to private school as well.

If you're tired of it, just do what we do in public school: fight back. Especially in private school, with fake police, this would be possible. If you're held in court, just plead your case. Simple as that. You didn't think you'd get through life without a criminal record, did you?

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APEX Bioeducation

I find their system disturbingly vague (just read it... it's creepy and it doesn't make much sense). Sounds like they designed it that way, because they never really say what they do or (most importantly) how they do it, aside from a reassuringly-vague generality.

When the site talks about "contributing more substantially to the national agenda," I want to run from the room screaming... just get out of that school.

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It would appear that everyone knows what they're getting into though when they enroll their kids at this school. From the website:

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Any family wishing to visit Lighthouse School is invited to do so by arranging an appointment with Lighthouse School's Enrollment Team. A family is encouraged to receive authorization to visit Lighthouse School from the Director of Special Education of their city or town prior to a visit being scheduled. This is to ensure that all persons involved with the responsibility of educating each student are included in the process from start to finish. This provision is consonant with Lighthouse School's strong commitment to communication and consistency as important criteria of service quality.
If a student is at this school, there's a good reason.

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This is sickening. Get out. NOW! Make your parents explain that they don't believe that you don't need to be in such a constructed (toltalitarin) envirment that is so restrictive (goonish). Just get out.

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JF actually does have developmental problems. He's not retarded, but there are other kinds of developmental problems.
Demonslayer, fighting back physically is NOT the way to do it. John, I'd say just take Alec's advice, and certainly not Demonslayer's.
And a good part of the reason he's there is because his parents are forcing him, probably making a bit difficult for him to just leave (unless I'm mistaken, in which case feel free to correct me, JF).

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quote:
Originally written by Ephesos:

APEX Bioeducation

I find their system disturbingly vague (just read it... it's creepy and it doesn't make much sense). Sounds like they designed it that way, because they never really say what they do or (most importantly) how they do it, aside from a reassuringly-vague generality.

When the site talks about "contributing more substantially to the national agenda," I want to run from the room screaming... just get out of that school.

Agreed. Take a look at that Employment page...

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I can't leave for the simple fact that there is nothing else out there for me. However I was hoping that some of the powerful people that visit this site, like The Attorneys. Could join forces with me and have this school closed down, and a better one opend up. That's all.

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quote:
Originally written by The Almighty Doer of Stuff:

Demonslayer, fighting back physically is NOT the way to do it.
Non-sense. You're crazy!

You're all crazy!!

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No ADOS is right. Fighting back physically is not the way to do it. Because the'll restrain me. What I want to do is start a group to get better alternitive schools opend.So whose joining me?

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quote:
Originally written by demonslaeyr:

You're all crazy!!
Of course we are. We've all left our sanity outside the door, remember?
Edit:Back on topic, I think, as long as thier discipline method is thier only major problem, it would be much easier to just stay out of trouble than to get a new school opened, although if the school is anywhere near as bad as it sounds it should be replaced.

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