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(1) Jeff's games have become increasingly complex, and increasingly about role playing as opposed to simple "go kill goblins, then sliths," quests.

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Pretty valid argument I suppose

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Think about it; the Exile series (and the plots for the Avernum series) were all created from about 1994 to 1998. Since then, his work has included Nethergate (very nice way of showing how different sides interpret the same events, particularly the ending), and the two Geneforge games (with Geneforge 2 being very complex and interactive in the role playing sense of the word).

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I guess he has to make the game complex to keep his fans. However, that doesn't mean he has to alter the style of the games. Ex:take geneforge style and apply it to a4.

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Since the new Avernum is not a recreation of a previously-create game, like all the other Avernums, it makes sense to assume the plot content it will look more like his latest games (Nethergate, Geneforge, Geneforge 2) than the Exile/Avernum series.

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More likely than not I suppose. I don't think he would make it like Geneforge though, where you can choose from several different factions.

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Jeff has mentioned in his "grumpy gamer" column that every game designer should read the New York Times every day. It is very hard to imagine that if someone follows this advice, they won't start thinking deeply about their ethical beliefs and convictions. Take Geneforge - I think one can legitimately say that it was, in many ways, Jeff's artistic exploration about what it means for humans to have the power to create life. And not in an abstract "I give thee life" kind of way. The NY Times has had many articles on the cloning of Dolly, and the steady stream of cloned animals, along with articles about its political and social consequences of human cloning. The Shapers themselves, in the Geneforge games, represent a side of these arguments – namely that we’re smart enough to know what we’re doing. Is it ever responsible to create life, or does the mere act of so doing render the creators less human and less able to identify with cloned life, or even life in general? What reaction does one expect from someone who discovered they are cloned? Do they owe gratitude, respect or hatred to their creators? What obligations to creators have to their creations?

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This seems to have more of the effect for Geneforge than avernum.

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The point is that Jeff had to be thinking about some very deep issues to make the Geneforge games as compelling as they are. This was not a typical game where the mutants are all murdering freaks. It is much more true to life in terms of human cloning than anything I’ve seen in the gaming world.

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So you're saying cloning will be an attribute of avernum4?

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